It's June 2010 already! Allergy Chat Thread - Page 3

[mom61508]

Hi mamas
If you don't mind I'm going to kind of join in. I've been lurking because I learn so much from your threads buuutttt I'm still trying to catch up on old ones and learn more so I don't have much to add

Is it possible to link what pee test you guys are using???

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by mom61508

Hi mamas
If you don't mind I'm going to kind of join in. I've been lurking because I learn so much from your threads buuutttt I'm still trying to catch up on old ones and learn more so I don't have much to add

Is it possible to link what pee test you guys are using???

Fastest way to learn is to ask questions... We can point you to relevant threads if we're too busy to answer. Most likely, we'll learn something from your questions, too

My pee test is toxic elements by Genova, ordered through directlabs. It didn't actually get mailed today, though. Dd got milk instead. I think it's finally time for a second car!

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by mom61508

Hi mamas
If you don't mind I'm going to kind of join in. I've been lurking because I learn so much from your threads buuutttt I'm still trying to catch up on old ones and learn more so I don't have much to add

Is it possible to link what pee test you guys are using???

"Catch up"? You're joking right? I'm not sure that's possible. I honestly have written off being "caught up" on past threads before. There's just not enough time in the day sometimes.

[kjbrown92]

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

Funny. I was thinking "Wow. I wish I could let go enough to be happy with feeding my family stuff that simple." (Then I read your last remark.) Of course, I was also thinking "4 different dinners again. How in heck does she DO that?!"

The steak was gamey so I only ate one bite. And I was trying to get more protein to see if it related to sleep for me (from earlier conversation here). I had hard boiled the eggs for lunch, and had leftovers, so DD1 was easy (she made the sandwich herself, giving the yolks she doesn't like to the dog!). DD2 ended up having frozen Jones sausages (4 of them, and yes, she eats them frozen - ick) and more peas right before bed because she was still hungry. I'm hiding on the computer so I don't have to think about my mammogram and ultrasound tomorrow, so I didn't feel like thinking about dinner. And DH is on swing shift, so he's not around, and I'm just not motivated to cook. I had to make the ketchup for Saturday's birthday party. Tomorrow I have to go to 4 stores to get all the groceries because I can only get the mustard and rice crackers at Whole Foods, other things at the regular grocery, got to find Sabrett's hot dogs somewhere, and the another regular grocery (different items). Just got the beet sugar delivered today. And I think I have to go to Costco too, to get maple syrup so I can make chocolate syrup for the sundaes on Saturday. Ugh. I don't want to cook tomorrow either. I still have to clean my house too. Why are 50 people coming to my house on Saturday? What was I thinking? I've got 2 celiacs, 1 chocolate allergy, 1 tree-nut allergy, plus me and my kids. fun, fun, fun.

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

Upside of the day: Despite the blueberry and coconut ice cream eating of this morning, DS2 has neither a burny-rash nor terrible acid poo-splosions. *knocking on wood*

Excellent. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Originally Posted by chlobo

Yeah, I have no idea how kathy does it. I force everyone to eat the same things.

I didn't even sit down to eat. Normally we all sit down together. I'm hot and tired and achey. Had a horrible headache as well today, but thanks to the clay suggestion, that went away. I'm just full of whine today, aren't I?

[lil_miss_understood]

Kathy. It will go smooth as silk and take far less time than you expect.

[mamafish9]

Originally Posted by chlobo

I'm sure DS needs pancreatic enzymes. But they apparently taste horrible & he doesn't swallow pills nor will he take any mushy stuff regularly to slip it into. Not sure what to do about that.

He was sick a lot this past winter. And following the winter he just never "cleared up". Personality-wise he's a pretty mellow guy. When I think he's reacting he acts just like a whiny 2.5 year old would. Except there is the endless nursing and inability to be away from me. He started having a really bad case of separation anxiety sometime this winter. See, now I think he needs the test too.

I am aggressively pursuing non-surgical adenoid options. We currently see a craniopath (cst/chiropractor) who specializes in this sort of thing. We also just had allergen testing done (we need to remove eggs but were waiting til after my birthday) and he has a constitutional homeopathic remedy as well as some other homeopathic supports from the ND.

I'd test you first. First off, you can assume a fair amount about their genetics based on yours, and a healthy mama is really important.

Searched Yasko for adenoids. She seems to link it mostly with strep - chronic strep in nasal passages AND gut (and the gut part leads to leaky gut). It's a bear to get rid of, but apparently nasal xylitol spray is great for getting it out of nasal passages, and then papaya enzyme & vitamin C (to bowel tolerance). Also, are you supping iron? She strongly recommends people do NOT take iron if dealing with chronic bacterial stuff, it makes the bacteria stronger. Instead she uses lactoferrin, which accomplishes the same thing for you without making the bacteria more virulent. Oh, and elderberry for immune support.

But, and this is a big guess, most of the kids with adenoid issues seem to have the tough MTRR mutations, meaning they need tons of B12. So you might try hydroxy B12 with him - that at least is an easy thing to get picky little guys to take!

Originally Posted by chlobo

Which pee test are you using for benchmarks?

Two of them mostly - urine amino acids (DDI), and metabolic analysis profile (Genova). They're expensive, unfortunately - but the baseline ones I did were huge for helping piece together what is going on with DS. If I was doing it again though, I'd probably do the genetics, apply Dr. Yasko's suggestions, and then run the tests if some stuff still seemed out of whack.

[kjbrown92]

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

Kathy. It will go smooth as silk and take far less time than you expect.

Which - the cooking? cleaning? shopping? Oh yeah, and I have to go to Toys R Us to get lego minifigures for the pinata. Almost forgot that one. And I'm out of laundry detergent so I have a big pile of laundry to hide! You guys are all laughing at me, aren't you? Picturing me running around like a nut getting ready for a party - cooking stuff on the stove while cleaning the house and stuffing dirty clothes in the cupboards!

[mom61508]

Originally Posted by whoMe

Fastest way to learn is to ask questions... We can point you to relevant threads if we're too busy to answer. Most likely, we'll learn something from your questions, too

My pee test is toxic elements by Genova, ordered through directlabs. It didn't actually get mailed today, though. Dd got milk instead. I think it's finally time for a second car!

So I don't need a HCP to oder it? Wonder If I can get Insurance to cover it?

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

"Catch up"? You're joking right? I'm not sure that's possible. I honestly have written off being "caught up" on past threads before. There's just not enough time in the day sometimes.

I've actually made it through quite a few threads lately but ya some are ridiculously loooonnnnggggg. DD has new toys and a puppy to play with.

[kjbrown92]

DS only had safe food today, and he's up there moaning. I just gave him an extra Mg. He said his legs hurt really bad and his stomach hurts too. Classic dairy symptoms for him, but I know he hasn't had any. Ugh. If this is lyme herx reaction, then I've got to do this for 3 more weeks (at least)? And if it is, then I can't introduce any new foods during this time, because I won't be able to tell if he's reacting or not. I was just getting ready to add something new. I was afraid of this because the last few days, he's said his legs have been hurting off and on. My reactions from food came back when I started the abx. I still can't figure out what the connection is though. If going off the foods made the symptoms go away, why would lyme abx bring them back? Is it a food intolerance or something else? I just don't get it.

[tanyalynn]

Kathy, for a simple, healthy, straightforward testing process and test results tomorrow. I'm sorry your son is feeling bad. For metals, when you deal with them and get icky symptoms, it's a sign that nutritional stress is going up and the nutrients aren't there to meet the need. Could that be something similar with the lyme? Does Thorne have corn? CS uses it, but I know your lists aren't completely the same.

Shannon--if you feel better going in to see your pedi, do it. I've never had one that I thought was actually, well, helpful in problem-solving stuff that doesn't have a very clear-cut, normal cause. But if you think you can get helpful info from yours, go for it.

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by kjbrown92

Which - the cooking? cleaning? shopping? Oh yeah, and I have to go to Toys R Us to get lego minifigures for the pinata. Almost forgot that one. And I'm out of laundry detergent so I have a big pile of laundry to hide! You guys are all laughing at me, aren't you? Picturing me running around like a nut getting ready for a party - cooking stuff on the stove while cleaning the house and stuffing dirty clothes in the cupboards!

All of it.
I am putting it out into the ether for you.
And I would never laugh. Because I will be there all too soon (minus the 50 people coming over).
My mom called me drunk. Apparently she felt compelled to tell me that I need to wean DS2 bc "if you don't, he'll think he's the boss". I told her "I'm sorry you feel that way. This is not up for discussion."

[kjbrown92]

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

My mom called me drunk. Apparently she felt compelled to tell me that I need to wean DS2 bc "if you don't, he'll think he's the boss". I told her "I'm sorry you feel that way. This is not up for discussion."

Your child, your decision. It's nice that you can say it to her though. I would just roll my eyes and ignore my mother's barbs.

[chlobo]

Originally Posted by kjbrown92

Which - the cooking? cleaning? shopping? Oh yeah, and I have to go to Toys R Us to get lego minifigures for the pinata. Almost forgot that one. And I'm out of laundry detergent so I have a big pile of laundry to hide! You guys are all laughing at me, aren't you? Picturing me running around like a nut getting ready for a party - cooking stuff on the stove while cleaning the house and stuffing dirty clothes in the cupboards!

Would you come plan DSs party for August?

[chlobo]

Kathy,

Sending good vibes for today. Hopefully the test will show nothing.

[gigismom]

hi everyone, happy june! just popping in before work so i did not have time to read up to this point yet. just need your thoughts on something

ds started his new supps last night. per his new doctor... i gave him 1/2 capsule of Digest Gold followed 1/2 hour later by 1/2 capsule of viracin (this is an antibacterial... i think... to kill his bad gut bugs). He then ate a really big dinner. About 1-2 hours later he pooped and then again about another hour later. This is soooo not like him. He just pooped on Tues and lately he has been pooping every 3 to 4 days. Also, (tmi) the stool was very loose and STINKY. He did not have any cramping. What's up with that? To be expected after starting the new supps? Is this an indication that I gave him too much and should lower his dose? Is this a sign of die-off? I don't even know if this is a good or bad sign.... don't know what to think. I definitely want him to poop more frequenty so I was initially thrilled but then puzzled when it was so loose. What do you all think?

Also... his doctor finally spoke to the pediatric lyme specialist in CT, Dr. Jones. They came to the conclusion that it appears that he did get exposed to lyme at some point (through breastfeeding when I had lyme last summer). However, it does not appear that he currently has lyme and he also has no symptoms that they think can be attributed to lyme for sure because his allergies and gut problems started way before I had lyme. Dr. Jones gave 2 options in his opinion. 1. do nothing and watch him for symtoms and then treat if he develops symptoms 2. treat with a month of abx. I am not thrilled with a month of abx given his current gut issues already. His doctor also suggested trying homeopathy and referred him to a homeopath. This was her preferred path at this point also given his already significant dysbiosis. So we will see. I am leaning toward the homeopathy, too. I have never used homeopathy but would love to learn. Any thoughts on this? I will post in the mamas with lyme thread too, later.

have a great day! so glad it is friday!

jen

[tanyalynn]

Jen--my guess is that the poop is related to the new supps, I wouldn't consider it a bad thing yet but I've never given/taken digestive supps. I'd consider homeopathy, I guess I'd want to have good confidence that the person I chose had experience with the problem I'm seeing and had a track record of good results. Be even nicer, a lot nicer, if they were knowledgeable enough to use supps along with homeopathy.

......

You know it's going to be a memorable day when the first thing you do, before either of your kids are awake, is clean up a puddle of dog diarrhea.

I am going to take it as a sign that today is a great day to do some serious cleaning. Should go buy some hardwood floor cleaner (no idea what's in it, the previous owners told us that's what they used on the floor), may try to trim the dog's fur and then bathe her... separate from the desperate need for vacuuming (dog fur is starting to pile up). Plus the pick-up that's desperately needed in the kids' room.

Ordered supps last night, should be an interesting experiment.

[tanyalynn]

Kathy, what time is your appointment today? Let us know how it goes, and how much they tell you then, and how long you have to wait for complete results?

[Theloose]

Kathy

Jen, I just started enzymes and antibiotics, too. The enzymes definitely caused die off for me, and the antibiotics as well. The reason for my abx was mastitis, not exactly negotiable in my case, but combined with the (pancreatic) enzymes, I think they're actually totally helping my gut. The way I figure, it's not like my gut had a great collection of bacteria to begin with (though it wasn't that bad, either) so why make a big deal of holding on to it? Course i've been on all sorts of abx earlier in life, so the major damage is already done. I'm just going to be sure to load up on whole food probiotics now that I'm finishing off the round...

Dd slept all night in her bed with no asking for milk!

[gigismom]

Thanks for the input. I was just ver suprised to see any change so quickly. Pleased but suprised.

[kjbrown92]

Originally Posted by chlobo

Would you come plan DSs party for August?

August is pretty full already (two weddings, my bday, DH's bday)! Planning parties makes me crazy. And last weekend when we were at the lake, my mother asked if we were planning anything for her 70th bday (this coming Sunday). oops. So we're celebrating the following weekend. Got to go get presents for my brothers to give her, and us. But that's next week.... I've got plenty of time...

Originally Posted by tanyalynn

Kathy, what time is your appointment today? Let us know how it goes, and how much they tell you then, and how long you have to wait for complete results?

1:45pm mammo then ultrasound. I don't know how much they'll tell me then. I'm hoping for confirmation that it's a cyst since the doctor said if it's fluid filled then it's a cyst, and cysts never become cancer.

And the family grapevine is going... apparently word is out that I have lyme, so I'm getting "get well" and "thinking about you" emails when I'm no worse than I have been for the last 9 years!! It's kind of weird.