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Serial posting... I keep forgetting what I was going to post.

We've been doing the lamb Pancreas for about a week(?) now, and I'm noticing a lot of bumps on DD's face and arms. The bumps seem to get worse within about 1/2 hour of taking the pancreas- they look like tiny pimples. Is it possible I'm looking at a reaction (no other symptoms though), or is this some sort of die-off? And if so, what exactly is dying off?
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Oh- more allergy related- DD is doing really good with the random foods we've been eating this week. We've been eating tomatoes again (yay!), we had some raspberries at the farmer's market the other day, and some avocado yesterday. I really hope that she does ok with berries again this summer, because the wild blackberries in our street are starting to bloom, and there is no way to keep DD off those things once the berries are ripe.
Do you think the enzymes are what's helping on the food front? I bought some but haven't started anything new yet.

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I forgot to say- we were at the zoo for 4 hours, in the middle of the day, and I am not burnt to a crisp! (Part is shaded, but we got at least a solid hour of sunshine.) My shoulders are a little pink, and I got a little color on my face, but normally I would have been blistered and peeling with that amount of sun. So that's a good sign of my nutritional status, right?

Oh- and we are officially no longer TTA. (Don't want to jinx myself by using the other acronym. ) We'll see what happens.
I thought the tanning thing was indicative of Vitamin D levels; not sure why I think that though. What's TTA (trying to avoid?) I'm hopeless with acronyms.

Picked 10 lbs. of strawberries with the kids today (it's strawberry day on the rotation). I'm going to make some pectin-less jam for us (though the kids probably won't eat it, so it'll all be for ME). And maybe some cookies (not with the strawberries, it's just that I've been craving cookies).

My half-brother and his wife are coming to stay with us tonight, for 5-6 days, and my niece is coming tomorrow to stay for a week. And I have nothing planned menu wise and for once, I don't really care. I mean, for once I'm relaxed about it, and not agonizing about everything and cleaning like a maniac and all that. Maybe it was the boob scare, but I think I'm finally learning to relax a little.
post #703 of 873
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Do you think the enzymes are what's helping on the food front? I bought some but haven't started anything new yet.
Definitely possible. Avocados we eat occasionally- haven't really ever done an "official" trial of them, but they seem ok. Tomatoes have been on the 'not sure' list for a while too... and raspberries we ate last summer when they were at the farmer's market, and they seemed ok.

Yes, TTA is trying to avoid.

Ugh. I reeeeeeally need to go mow the lawn, but I just can't get the energy and motivation this morning!
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Serial posting... I keep forgetting what I was going to post.

We've been doing the lamb Pancreas for about a week(?) now, and I'm noticing a lot of bumps on DD's face and arms. The bumps seem to get worse within about 1/2 hour of taking the pancreas- they look like tiny pimples. Is it possible I'm looking at a reaction (no other symptoms though), or is this some sort of die-off? And if so, what exactly is dying off?
Our experience is that pancreatic enzymes improve digestion, so improve the gut environment (make it less hospitable for the bad bugs). As a result, we saw clostridia die off. When the bad bugs die, they release their innards - often metals and toxins are in there, and your body has to clear them (some via poop, some get absorbed and need to be peed out).

The glandulars are a lot gentler, so I'd assume for now that you're seeing a little die off, but at a slow rate your DD's body can basically handle. We got some strange bumps and rashes and low grade fevers, amongst other things. If you aren't seeing any other reaction, I'd let it ride for now, and see what happens. If it is die off, it should eventually clear up. If it's reaction, I assume it would build into something worse. Many hopes it is the former! If it helped tolerate some foods rotated in, that would be great as well, both so you don't go nuts, and to help reduce your DD's protein consumption a little, which would help with glutamates.
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Do you think the enzymes are what's helping on the food front? I bought some but haven't started anything new yet.

Wait I thought CS was doing glandulars not enzymes?? I'm confused.

I thought the tanning thing was indicative of Vitamin D levels; not sure why I think that though. What's TTA (trying to avoid?) I'm hopeless with acronyms.

Picked 10 lbs. of strawberries with the kids today (it's strawberry day on the rotation). I'm going to make some pectin-less jam for us (though the kids probably won't eat it, so it'll all be for ME). And maybe some cookies (not with the strawberries, it's just that I've been craving cookies).
[COLOR="rgb(255, 0, 255)"]10 lbs that's awesome! I've actually been craving muffins with strawberries[/COLOR]
My half-brother and his wife are coming to stay with us tonight, for 5-6 days, and my niece is coming tomorrow to stay for a week. And I have nothing planned menu wise and for once, I don't really care. I mean, for once I'm relaxed about it, and not agonizing about everything and cleaning like a maniac and all that. Maybe it was the boob scare, but I think I'm finally learning to relax a little.
I'm a little late on this but I'm glad your boob scare turned out ok
post #706 of 873
any guesses on why dd might be pooping in the backyard every day, or how to make it stop? yuck. maybe she needs more applesauce.
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tee hee hee... rs4481887 is the snp (on 23andme) that says how likely you are to smell asparagus pee. I likely can't. It's true.
post #708 of 873
That's hilarious. There's a gene for asparagus pee?! I definitely have it.

Sorry about the poop issue... I have no great ideas for you.
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That's hilarious. There's a gene for asparagus pee?! I definitely have it.

Sorry about the poop issue... I have no great ideas for you.
Dd is just baffling me. The only real stuff we've been doing is enzymes for me (holding steady for the past two weeks or so, trying to get to a baseline again), and a 3 day GABA experiment for her. Oh, and a bit of lithium for me. She's suddenly gotten affectionate towards ds, is in a MUCH better mood for the most part (starting pre-GABA, immediately after my stone fruit fail), but today was crazy hyper, and she's been pooping in the yard for a week. And stuttering. Tonight, she was hyper straight up until bedtime then shocked me by falling asleep easily And bad poop.

Why is this in chat? Cause I don't think it's actually analyzable. At least not in the normal way. Clearly there's been a major shift in her neurotransmitters, but is there really any way to tell if it's reaction vs nutrition vs developmental? THAT's my real question. How do we know where to draw the line of clear reaction vs overanalyzing? And how does normal development and maturity factor in?
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Dd is just baffling me. The only real stuff we've been doing is enzymes for me (holding steady for the past two weeks or so, trying to get to a baseline again), and a 3 day GABA experiment for her. Oh, and a bit of lithium for me. She's suddenly gotten affectionate towards ds, is in a MUCH better mood for the most part (starting pre-GABA, immediately after my stone fruit fail), but today was crazy hyper, and she's been pooping in the yard for a week. And stuttering. Tonight, she was hyper straight up until bedtime then shocked me by falling asleep easily And bad poop.

Why is this in chat? Cause I don't think it's actually analyzable. At least not in the normal way. Clearly there's been a major shift in her neurotransmitters, but is there really any way to tell if it's reaction vs nutrition vs developmental? THAT's my real question. How do we know where to draw the line of clear reaction vs overanalyzing? And how does normal development and maturity factor in?
Well, these are the million dollar questions, aren't they? If we knew the answers, we'd be honkin' practitioners making tons of money.

Lately DH has been telling me I'm just "looking for trouble" when something might be very innocuous.
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Well, these are the million dollar questions, aren't they? If we knew the answers, we'd be honkin' practitioners making tons of money.

Lately DH has been telling me I'm just "looking for trouble" when something might be very innocuous.
You know what'd be awesome? To figure out some common element of reacting vs not - or maybe even a handful of possible indicators, and then develop a pee strip that tells you what's going on. I don't know what it'd be... Maybe inflammation? Glutamate/GABA? I'd say metals, but I'm thinking more of a general indicator. Something that's like a confirmation of yup, that really IS a red ring of doom. Or yeah, this is a behavior thing (norepinephrine, maybe?). An instant read cortisol test? Oh man, would that save a lot of frustrated discussions around here... Where's my research lab!? Then how fun would it be to do a study where you just test the general population to see what percentage is affected vs not. It seems *possible* at some point off in the future. When we figure it out and make a million bucks, that's the first thing I'm going to fund!
post #712 of 873
What's the best way to get selenium(high T4) into a 2 year old?? I'm thinking she needs other minerals as well is there a really good mineral supp out there? I can't see her eating brazil nuts. We do eat organic and some local produce but I'm still concerned about her minerals.


Whome- I mean this in a good way....you make my brain hurt I wish I had your brain
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What's the best way to get selenium(high T4) into a 2 year old?? I'm thinking she needs other minerals as well is there a really good mineral supp out there? I can't see her eating brazil nuts. We do eat organic and some local produce but I'm still concerned about her minerals.


Whome- I mean this in a good way....you make my brain hurt I wish I had your brain
Brazil nut parmesan - grind the nuts and mix with salt and a bit of crushed garlic.

I make *my* brain hurt.
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Brazil nut parmesan - grind the nuts and mix with salt and a bit of crushed garlic.

I make *my* brain hurt.
I was thinking maybe soaked in a smoothie?

I was wondering... Maybe it's the lithium? The better mood etc, I mean.

And here's an interesting article on the effects of lithium on the intestines, although they were looking at long term use and possibly with lithium carbonate rather than orotate (which is what I assume you're using).
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Just popping in to say hi, haven't even gone back one page. In Colorado, family reunion this afternoon.

Kathy, I gather the biopsy results were good, yay!

mom61508... my answer is always pills as being easiest. Applesauce as a route to hide things (except with the blatant approach, "kiddo, eat this one bite then you can go do something") has worked well for me... took a while for the kids to get used to swallowing whatever pill I give them, or taking that bite of applesauce, but with some practice, it's been really helpful. Or, if you need to, bet you could hide it in a bit of chocolate sauce (Alton Brown's recipe on food network is really, really yummy).

Um... feel really behind. Exciting, CS, very exciting. Do you have my email addy? We need to get in touch, we'll be in the general Seattle area, um, well, we're leaving CO on Monday, 3 days of driving, then I think 2 weeks with my parents. JR, did you write and I forgot to respond? Very possible. We should write again, I'd love to figure out a way to swing through Oregon on my way home. Deb, are you around? I think I'm going to aim to arrive back in TX around July 22, so back-tracking that's, say, leaving my parents around July 16? Very roughly.

As for us... very hit-or-miss with pills here, the routine is, well, no routine. Much easier to stick to a routine at my parents' house, but stomach aches in both kids have almost completely gone away (and sometimes I think DS had stomach aches in the morning because he was still tired--that happened once here, he needed to sleep in really late and then he was fine)... that that's resolved and not just being ignored by DD since she's having so much fun.

DS is having some up and down days, can't tell if it's lack of sleep, or too much activity (not a lot of quiet downtime here), or it's more biochemical.

Are there good websites that really discuss symptoms of high/low neurotransmitters in kids? My google searches aren't turning up great stuff, but I've also not had enough time to really put in due to the trip (this is my first computer time since Monday), and the books/papers I have with me aren't enough. I feel like I need to know more. But figuring it out, vs the change in routine, is probably too tricky anyway. I still want to know though.
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Hi Tanya!

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I was wondering... Maybe it's the lithium? The better mood etc, I mean.

And here's an interesting article on the effects of lithium on the intestines, although they were looking at long term use and possibly with lithium carbonate rather than orotate (which is what I assume you're using).
Trying to figure out timing... The mood stuff started right after the stone fruit trial - she's always had a thing where when she has poop reactions, she's in a much better mood. The mood stuff didn't really start till the poop reactions died down. That was... 2 or 3 weeks ago. The lithium started 2 weeks ago-ish. I think. Hmm... I'll have to search here to figure out f that works out. And it's just me taking it, but I've been rock bottom, so it should be making a difference in the milk.

We're about to go berry picking, then blood drawing (me ), then grammy-sitting, then dinner with my mom. And tomorrow we're going to try and make it to the beach And dd happily wears sunscreen now
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Sooooo... had a super great time at Six Flags yesterday except the ride home when DS's best friend had an ana type reaction!
 


Edited by JaneS - 7/14/11 at 4:19pm
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Ok, I need some advice here. Yesterday we had 2 pool parties. One in the AM & one in the PM. Nothing particularly eventful about the day. At the second party, which was a birthday party, they had a pinata. Usual assortment of crap including swedish fish & sour patch kids. Since they don't have gluten or dairy I let DS & DD eat have a package. Nothing unusual after eating. Both kids went to sleep ok.

Last night DD wakes up with a night terror. Then, I could tell this morning that she was just "off". She was walking in our Old Home Day Parade and she just wasn't chipper. After the parade we got some food & walked around. She wanted cotton candy but it has so much junk in it (sugar, red dye, soy, artificial flavor) & she seemed so off that we said no. Well that started the most epic meltdown we've had since she was about 3 (she's 6 now so well beyond the meltdown stage, or should be). We had to carry her away from old home day kicking & screaming in front of all of our friends. Charming. Of course she blamed it on us. It was our fault b/c we wouldn't buy the cotton candy and it was our fault the guy with the darts wasn't there this year and it was our fault that we wouldn't buy her something else and it was our fault that she didn't want to do the three legged race.

Anyhow, do you think this could be a delayed reaction to the red dye & crap she ate in the swedish fish yesterday? I am just ready to ban all candy since most of it is soooooo evil. I guess I just assumed it would be an immediate reaction but maybe hers are just delayed? Maybe she gets clogged up processing the crap out? Would that be a liver thing?
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Jane- I can't wait for those days!! Sounds so nice.....
And btw- are you a web designer, or coder, or what do you do?
Kinda weird combo of both. I have huge gaps on each sides depending on the client work I have collected over the years. I'm working now on a website for a new mobile phone app for activities of daily living for ASD kids: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/symtr...30237672?mt=8#

I worked with them years ago, and then they couldn't afford me so it's nice they came back, VERY good timing in my life. (And strangely corresponds to my TM although not precisely what I wanted, it ended up that way!)

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I forgot to say- we were at the zoo for 4 hours, in the middle of the day, and I am not burnt to a crisp! (Part is shaded, but we got at least a solid hour of sunshine.) My shoulders are a little pink, and I got a little color on my face, but normally I would have been blistered and peeling with that amount of sun. So that's a good sign of my nutritional status, right?
Extremely cool! We were at Six Flags from 10:30 - 6:00, some shade but not much. I just did my arms, neck and chest. I only had a baseball hat on and my face had no sunscreen and didn't burn. I would have been really HURTING in the past.

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tee hee hee... rs4481887 is the snp (on 23andme) that says how likely you are to smell asparagus pee. I likely can't. It's true.
So everyone HAS asparagus pee but some people don't smell it?
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Anyhow, do you think this could be a delayed reaction to the red dye & crap she ate in the swedish fish yesterday? I am just ready to ban all candy since most of it is soooooo evil. I guess I just assumed it would be an immediate reaction but maybe hers are just delayed? Maybe she gets clogged up processing the crap out? Would that be a liver thing?
Most definitely. That is the thing with intolerances, they are delayed and thus harder to pinpoint. I have had many observations over the years with DS and his moods. He is a complete joy, likes to do homework, goes to sleep easily, cheerful, agreeable, thoughtful, etc. etc. ... until his salicylate bucket overflows and he changes a great deal.

I think you mamas are the only people I could say this too and not sound too obnoxious or complete nut case. I have seen my DS on the bad side many, many times due to food and it weighs on me heavily how much this probably impacts thousands of kids and parents everyday!

Melodramatic much.

It's probably not all food. But what if it was? That is what I'm thinking about today.
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