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post #21 of 34
6/4/10 at 7:50am
If the problem is she can't see you, how about a mirror? I know my DD sees everything in hers, she regularly comments on the color of the car in front of us and has a fit if I don't share what I'm eating.
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post #22 of 34
6/4/10 at 8:55am
I had no idea that they had to be rear facing still. Ds is 10 months and FF. Please don't judge me. I just moved ds from his baby seat to his britax roundabout. Now I got to figure how to turn the thing around.

I thought that when their feet were all scrunched up, it was time to face forward.
post #23 of 34
6/4/10 at 9:07am
Please turn it back around today...before you get in the car again. Legs scrunched up aren't a big deal (and how scrunched can they be at 10 months)? Get out the manual. Rear facing install is very easy for a roundabout.
post #24 of 34
6/4/10 at 9:31am
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Originally Posted by bluebirdmama1 View Post
I had no idea that they had to be rear facing still. Ds is 10 months and FF. Please don't judge me. I just moved ds from his baby seat to his britax roundabout. Now I got to figure how to turn the thing around.

I thought that when their feet were all scrunched up, it was time to face forward.
Yes, he definitely needs to be rear-facing. Google "extended rear facing" and you'll get a gazillion good reasons

The Roundabout is pretty easy to install rear-facing, and the manual should answer any questions you have (and if it doesn't, ask here and you'll get a gazillion quick answers from mamas dying to help you out ).

Don't worry for one second about the legs being 'scrunched'. There is a much higher instance of leg injuries in forward-facing children than in rear-facing ones
post #25 of 34
6/4/10 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by bluebirdmama1 View Post
I had no idea that they had to be rear facing still. Ds is 10 months and FF. Please don't judge me. I just moved ds from his baby seat to his britax roundabout. Now I got to figure how to turn the thing around.

I thought that when their feet were all scrunched up, it was time to face forward.
^^Definitely not judging you! Glad you found out though-in my state if you have a kid improperly car-seated and get pulled over or get in an accident, you can get charged with child endangerment! I would hate to see that happen to a well-meaning mama!
post #26 of 34
6/4/10 at 1:59pm
Don't worry about legs being scrunched up. My 3yo is still rfing and never complains. In fact, I just commented to dh yesterday that she looks so much more comfy in her carseat rfing, than our 5yo looks ffing with her legs dangling.
post #27 of 34
6/4/10 at 3:15pm
When discussing the degree of recline -- 45 degrees is easy. But more upright would be 30-35 from the VERTICAL, right? or 55-60 from the HORIZONTAL (ground). Right? Someone earlier said 30-35 from the horizontal and that would be nearly lying flat.
post #28 of 34
6/4/10 at 9:06pm
2 is the New 1

Please turn those little ones back RF. Legs are SO much easier to fix than necks!

ETA: I know what it is like to have a carseat screamer. DS1 screamed every time he was in his seat until he matured enough to realize it was only temporary...around 18months of age.
post #29 of 34
6/4/10 at 9:13pm
I meant from vertical, thank you for correcting me
post #30 of 34
6/5/10 at 3:53am
Yes, please turn those little ones back around! Like someone said, it might help if you install the seat more upright so they can see.

I don't know if anyone posted this, but this is a very good video that shows what can happen to a small child FF'ing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8gU9zzCGA8

FWIW, my 5yo son and almost-3yo nephew are both still RF'ing. Neither has complained one bit and in fact, they sleep in the car a lot better RF'ing too.
post #31 of 34
6/5/10 at 7:53am
We were another turn early (18m). Unless someone was sitting back with him he would cry and scream the whole trip (we do 10 hour road trips every few weeks). So lucky mommy spent 18m riding in the back all the time. Then around 17m he would become violently car sick (more actively looking outside). We had to pull over on a major highway because he was beginning to choke on his own vomit. From the moment we turned him we have never had another issue with car sickness or reluctance to travel.
post #32 of 34
6/5/10 at 7:57am
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Originally Posted by urchin_grey View Post
Yes, please turn those little ones back around! Like someone said, it might help if you install the seat more upright so they can see.

I don't know if anyone posted this, but this is a very good video that shows what can happen to a small child FF'ing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8gU9zzCGA8

FWIW, my 5yo son and almost-3yo nephew are both still RF'ing. Neither has complained one bit and in fact, they sleep in the car a lot better RF'ing too.
Every time I see this video it makes me cry. I wish I could keep all my kids rear facing!
But for sure my baby is staying that way as long as possible.
post #33 of 34
6/5/10 at 9:11am
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Originally Posted by urchin_grey View Post
Yes, please turn those little ones back around! Like someone said, it might help if you install the seat more upright so they can see.

I don't know if anyone posted this, but this is a very good video that shows what can happen to a small child FF'ing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8gU9zzCGA8

FWIW, my 5yo son and almost-3yo nephew are both still RF'ing. Neither has complained one bit and in fact, they sleep in the car a lot better RF'ing too.
Thanks everyone! I am turning the seat around before we go out today.
post #34 of 34
6/5/10 at 10:20am
Both my girls were car screamers. My first was the worst by far, and she was turned forwards facing at 9months and 9kg (as UK minimums were at the time when I had never heard of extended rearfacing or had a clue where you could buy seats as they certainly weren't available in the UK except as super expensive special needs seats then). She continued screaming regularly in the car until around 18 months when there was steady gradual improvement until she became truly happy in the car around 3 years old.

My second screamed every journey until around 18 months when we bought the rearfacing Group 1 seat for her which was much bigger, roomier and much higher up so she could see out of the windows of the car. She was instantly a lot better and funnily enough when we had to put her ff on a trip back to visit family for a day or two last month (at 2y2m) she screamed and vomited much more often than she now does in her rearfacing seat.

Its just a matter of maturity and finding a seat that works for them.
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