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post #141 of 195
Yeah, Elsa got polio vax at 2 months, because I wanted to give her the HIB and DTap, but the office only had them in a combo with polio. I would have preferred to wait if I got it at all but it's an old enough vaccine that I felt ok about it.

Since I have to go to the health dept for the next round I can get them separately.
post #142 of 195
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Another question topic from me! Just curious- how long are you planning to Breastfeed your baby? Being my first I honestly have no plan, I am just going to see how it goes.
My minimum is 2 years. Dd1 nursed through this pregnancy and weaned (on her terms, mostly) pretty much after Caroline was born, so right about age 2.5. I feel like that was a good age and an easy transition for all of us, so I think I'll aim for 2.5...but then I don't know. Without another pregnancy to impact things, I don't know when she'll be ready to cut way back or wean completely. I have a feeling dd1 would still be going strong if we hadn't cut back so drastically due to pregnancy (and then I was in the hospital with Caroline in the NICU for almost a week).

I'm dedicating myself to eating better and getting more exercise, but not so much to just "lose weight" as to feel better and healthier!
post #143 of 195
Can I just say, I love my baby. I know you guys understand. I just hated pregnancy so bad, but every time I look at my drooly, smiley wee guy I get all ooshy-gooshy lovey-dovey.

Re: traveling. I always thought DD traveled pretty well, but infancy was particularly easy because later they have more trouble falling asleep w/o the usual bedtime routine. DS has traveled overnight twice (and again this upcoming weekend) and has done well with every aspect except the car. He's okay with that, though, if I don't drive so I can pat his hand or talk to him.

Re: nursing. No particular plan, just to see how it goes. My DD stopped nursing on her own the same week she turned 2. I did set limits during the middle-second year, however, when she started using nursing to try to get me to stop whatever I was doing. (I mean, I responded to her need for attention and often did still nurse her, but when she no longer needed it for calories I didn't make it a drop-everything-and-nurse-immediately situation anymore.)
post #144 of 195
Juju is still totally unvaxed here in Brazil -- a place which does still have polio and gives vaccines for tuberculosis at birth. I am not as confident w/o vaxes in the first year as I was w/my babies in the US, but still am putting them off for as long as I can get away with (with my husband).

Nursing -- Was 3 yrs w/my 1st and 1 yr w/my 2nd; I want 2 yrs w/Juju.
post #145 of 195
We are looking at going to Africa, if it makes a difference. I want them vaccinated for my personal comfort level. The family we are looking at going to work with has been there about 3 years now, and say that it is very rough on kids - so we need everyone to be and stay as healthy as possible. Some things, like malaria, I won't be able to protect against, so I want to do what I can while we are here and have access to the medicine. Just my personal feelings, and I know I'm probably in the minority on this particular board.

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Another question topic from me! Just curious- how long are you planning to Breastfeed your baby? Being my first I honestly have no plan, I am just going to see how it goes.


on another note I am eating almond joy candy bars like every day. I am still quite over the weight I was before I was pregnant. But the funny thing is, I don't really mind. I eat a lot cause breastfeeding makes me super hungry! I am slowly more active as I continue to heal from the c section and birth.
BFing is a sore topic for me. As I think I've mentioned to you ladies before, I struggle with constant supply issues. I'm currently taking domperidone and still barely getting the minimum amount of growth for a BF'd baby. So my personal goal is 6 months. If we get more than that, great, but I'm not going to count on it.

You are still healing from your c/s? Is that normal at this point? I know Caleb is a bit older than your little guy, but I've felt back to normal for some time now...
post #146 of 195
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Originally Posted by Katie34 View Post
Another question topic from me! Just curious- how long are you planning to Breastfeed your baby? Being my first I honestly have no plan, I am just going to see how it goes.

I hope to BF until DD is done, but I plan on getting pregnant when she is just over a year, so we might be done sometime around 18 months. ds was done around 14 months for the most part due to pregnancy.

with my first i had at least a year in my mind, but shortly into nursing I realized I wanted to go longer than that
post #147 of 195
I am still kind of confused/lagging on what I want to do with vaccines. I know that I do want to get my child vaccinated. I feel like it is a public health issue for me. I had in mind that I would wait until 6 months and then selectively vax. Now that we are approaching 6 mo, I kind of feel like 1 year would be better. He just doesn't seem ready and I know I for sure as heck am not ready. I don't want it to be a decision made because I am just not ready myself and feel emotional. It's hard to figure out when baby is ready and when mommy is ready. Ugh.

NicoleS- super cool about Africa. My brother just got back from a semester abroad there and he really liked it. I would love to go- just hate to fly so trying to work on that.

As far as the losing weight thing- I am below pre pg weight but so not in the type of shape I want to be. My body composition is all mushy. Katie- I hate that people are asking about your "weight thing"! LOL what does that even mean really? I do feel so much better about my postpartum softer self than I ever did about my pre pg toned body. That being said- I wouldn't mind my abs being a little (read a lot) more toned. Whenever I work out for more than two days, I seem to notice a dip in my milk supply. I don't want that at all so I haven't been working out. I may try it again and see if it was just coincidence.

As far as breastfeeding length- as long as I can and he wants to. I figure I might cut it off if it feels outrageously long but I am up for whatever. I specifically do not want to get pg again until DS is completely done nursing. I had horrible morning sickness and I do not see how I could breastfeed and be pg at the same time and function. I still feel sick some days now when I breastfeed if I haven't gotten enough water.
post #148 of 195
Nicole, Juju was nearly 16 lbs at her appt less than a month ago, and she was considered borderline 'too big'. I wonder if it's the charts... My doc has a new chart based on breastmilk-fed babies, who are usually a little smaller than formula-fed, but could it be that your doc is using the charts that were based on formula-fed babies?

Vaccines -- everyone needs to do what makes them comfortable on that. I think frequently of the guilt I'd feel if Ju contracted a preventable illness. And so I try to keep her in the sling and away from people to make up for it...

Speaking of which, I WISH germy strangers (women!) would stop touching her hands and cheeks!!
post #149 of 195
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Nicole, Juju was nearly 16 lbs at her appt less than a month ago, and she was considered borderline 'too big'. I wonder if it's the charts... My doc has a new chart based on breastmilk-fed babies, who are usually a little smaller than formula-fed, but could it be that your doc is using the charts that were based on formula-fed babies?
Well then my baby is OBESE!!! She was 18lbs and EBF at her 4 month appt! I am hoping to breastfeed for at LEAST one year, preferably two years but will continue to three if she wants to I just don't want to have to use formula/bottles/cows milk etc. Breastfeeding is soooo much easier and better for her then bottle feeding EVER would be, especially with all the traveling we do. We are going on a disney cruise for 10 days in august and can't IMAGINE having to sterelize bottles, bring formula, etc. ugh, what a pain in the ass. Who would CHOOSE that life? I can see having to formula feed bc of supply issues, medical problems etc but to choose that? No thank you.
post #150 of 195
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You are still healing from your c/s? Is that normal at this point? I know Caleb is a bit older than your little guy, but I've felt back to normal for some time now...
I guess "healing" is a relative term. While I feel significantly better, I am hoping my body over all will continue to feel stronger and more relaxed as time goes on. I feel things on very subtle levels, in general- so when something happens to my body like a big abdominal surgery, I feel that after 3 months there are layers of it (both the incision and the energetics of my body and the overall state of the physical body) that have healed but many layers still more to go! I definitely do not have my full body strength or flexibility back yet.

So what do you guys think about taking your baby out somewhere in the evening/early night? We have only taken him out at night a couple of times so far. we got invited to a mellow "party"- just a small gathering at someons house tonight. I want to go but I am not sure how ds will do. He goes to sleep around that time- but I don't want to lock our family into not ever being able to do somehting fun in the evening cause it would bother the baby! SO we may try to go. I guess we will hope/assume ds will sleep through much of it- maybe in the mei tei?
Have you all brought your babies out to potlucks or dinner time/evening-early night gatherings? Any tips on how to make it work?
post #151 of 195
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So what do you guys think about taking your baby out somewhere in the evening/early night? We have only taken him out at night a couple of times so far. we got invited to a mellow "party"- just a small gathering at someons house tonight. I want to go but I am not sure how ds will do. He goes to sleep around that time- but I don't want to lock our family into not ever being able to do somehting fun in the evening cause it would bother the baby! SO we may try to go. I guess we will hope/assume ds will sleep through much of it- maybe in the mei tei?
Have you all brought your babies out to potlucks or dinner time/evening-early night gatherings? Any tips on how to make it work?
We brought DS out all the time. He wasn't big on sleeping and didn't go down for the night until 10 or 11, when we did. DD loves to sleep and gets cranky if she is up past 7pm. We are much more hesitant to take her out with us. Well that, and we have a toddler that goes to bed around 7 too. If I were to keep DD out and about after bedtime, I would definitely wear her the whole time, so keep stimulation down and hopefully get her to sleep.
post #152 of 195
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Who would CHOOSE that life? I can see having to formula feed bc of supply issues, medical problems etc but to choose that? No thank you.
I always think that too. After the first few weeks it's the easy life! I hate it when I hear of people giving it up in those tough early days, because although I've never FF, I can't imagine doing all that work.

Flavorfull, I think intentional weight loss and exertion can effect your milk supply. I know people IRL who think they have supply issues but I'm pretty sure they actually just don't eat enough because they are more concerned about the way they look than anything else. Can you eat extra calories or some milk-inducing foods (oatmeal, dark beer) on the days you work out to try and make up for it? Hugs to you on the vaccine issue, it's tough.

Katie, my kids have both been pretty portable at this age. When it's time for them to sleep I just have to stand and jiggle with them in the mei tai until they are deeply asleep, and then sit back down and enjoy the rest of the party.
post #153 of 195
Well AF has finally arrived. 51 days since my last. Of course its my husband's birthday tomorrow and he has strep throat We can't win for losing.

I've finally decided that I just can't handle all the pumping during the day. I've started nursing her again at night (she'll sleep straight through if I didn't wake her up to nurse) 3-4 times from 11pm-6am and then usually 2 times more before I leave for school at 11:30a. I may try hand expressing over the sink just to have a little stimulation during the day, but otherwise I just can't handle it.

Maybe she'll reverse cycle, but if not at least mom and baby will be happy.

Only about 6 weeks left in the academy. I can barely stand to be there anymore with all the drama. We actually had someone get themselves fired for conduct unbecoming an officer. Its craziness all around.
post #154 of 195
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Originally Posted by aramat View Post
Nicole, Juju was nearly 16 lbs at her appt less than a month ago, and she was considered borderline 'too big'. I wonder if it's the charts... My doc has a new chart based on breastmilk-fed babies, who are usually a little smaller than formula-fed, but could it be that your doc is using the charts that were based on formula-fed babies?
Our pedi's concern was more the lack of gain than the actual weight. I know according to Kellymom they should be gaining a minimum of 5 ounces per week at this age, and we are gaining more like 3-4 on average. I've looked it up, he's also dropped significant percentiles on both the WHO and the "standard" charts.

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I guess "healing" is a relative term. While I feel significantly better, I am hoping my body over all will continue to feel stronger and more relaxed as time goes on. I feel things on very subtle levels, in general- so when something happens to my body like a big abdominal surgery, I feel that after 3 months there are layers of it (both the incision and the energetics of my body and the overall state of the physical body) that have healed but many layers still more to go! I definitely do not have my full body strength or flexibility back yet.

So what do you guys think about taking your baby out somewhere in the evening/early night? We have only taken him out at night a couple of times so far. we got invited to a mellow "party"- just a small gathering at someons house tonight. I want to go but I am not sure how ds will do. He goes to sleep around that time- but I don't want to lock our family into not ever being able to do somehting fun in the evening cause it would bother the baby! SO we may try to go. I guess we will hope/assume ds will sleep through much of it- maybe in the mei tei?
Have you all brought your babies out to potlucks or dinner time/evening-early night gatherings? Any tips on how to make it work?
Ah, I see. With four kids I don't have as much time to think about it I guess.

I've taken the kids out when they were little. I'd suggest bringing a baby carrier or the carseat in or even a pack and play so that you can lay him down in the other room if he gets crabby. A lot depends on your baby's personality. My first, for example, was extremely flexible and would sleep on the go. Caleb is much less flexible and does not sleep well away from home.
post #155 of 195
I got my hair cut today!!! 7 inches taken off. This is crazy but I have not gotten my hair cut since the week I found out I was pregnant! Nearly a year ago (more then a year actually! ) Either way, I am so happy and excited that it might help me stop shedding so dang much! My husband took the baby to his office for an hour and she did great! It was nice to be alone for an hour though, is that wrong? haha
re--- about taking babies out-- I have learned that my little one loves to be put to sleep and nursed in our dark, cool room. If I do not have that option (and I refuse to stay in if there is a dinner or bbq we want to go to!) I will bring my moby and wear her in it, bouncing, etc until she falls asleep. After that she will sleep in there the rest of the night until we get home. It's hard for me to sit down though with the moby, am I missing something? As far as falling asleep in strollers, car seats, etc... not happening, this baby fights sleep like jackie chan.
post #156 of 195
I take Juju out frequently--everywhere I go, she goes, and eating out is our favorite weekend activity. I pretty much keep her in the sling, though. If she cries, we nurse. If she doesn't nurse quietly, we take a break--go for a walk or nurse some place quieter. She sleeps well in the sling as long as my noise level and movements are consistent.

I think this is a good age to start taking baby out, because in a few more months it gets harder--the start of separation anxiety and the like. By the time my 1st was 9 months, she was already shy from my keeping her away from people. Did not do this to my 2nd, and she is very outgoing. Ju is learning to smile for her admirers...

Bottles do suck. I have a confession, though. I never sterilize bottles, and I rinse and reuse the same bottle all day long. Is that very bad?

Lauren--maybe your Moby is too loose or low?? Oh!, and PS. Yay, haircut!! Am debating doing the same, but maybe my hair falling out would freak-out the hairdresser!
post #157 of 195
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Lauren--maybe your Moby is too loose or low?? Oh!, and PS. Yay, haircut!! Am debating doing the same, but maybe my hair falling out would freak-out the hairdresser!
maybe my 18lb baby is just too big? I don't think it's too loose...
post #158 of 195
Had our 4 month WBV today (17 weeks) and Caroline is 15 lbs 13 oz and 25.5", both right at 90th percentile. Sill about 1.5 lbs over where her sister was at this point but an inch shorter--she was longer at each point before this though and dd1's 4 month (20 week) length jumped way above where her height curve was before and after, so I wonder if either dd1's measurement was off or if Cal might sprout up a bit in the next few weeks? I guess we'll have to see! She was so sweet and smiley at the appointment, it was adorable.
post #159 of 195
AF seems to have returned. I guess I was spoiled with 13 months last time around!
post #160 of 195
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Flavorfull, I think intentional weight loss and exertion can effect your milk supply. I know people IRL who think they have supply issues but I'm pretty sure they actually just don't eat enough because they are more concerned about the way they look than anything else. Can you eat extra calories or some milk-inducing foods (oatmeal, dark beer) on the days you work out to try and make up for it? Hugs to you on the vaccine issue, it's tough.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to lose weight and it was kind of alarming at about 3 months because I wasn't sure if it would slow down. Feeding my baby comes first way before trying to get my body in shape. This is such a short time in life! I just miss running and moving.
I started the oatmeal every day and added a lot more fat to my diet. Wish I could do the beer but I am such a light weight I can maybe drink half? So I swipe DH's and enjoy some swigs. I am vegetarian and I think I was lacking a little bit in the fat department once I had to cut dairy because of Malachi's sensitivities. I added a lot of coconut milk, coconut milk ice cream, avocados, and just started cramming food in my face any time I could think of it. My supply issue was definitely calorie related which makes me get really careful about exercise. I have the plan to only exercise every other day for a total of three days a week and no more than a 3 mile run. I just don't think my body could handle more.
Katie- love the topics btw. If we go out at night, DS will not sleep unless super tired. He used to just fall asleep easily in the carrier. Now I just have to walk around some more until he falls asleep or he is up for the time we are out. I don't mind if he stays up if he doesn't seem too fussy or tired. I say go for it, going out isn't too hard and it's not like it will get easier for a while
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