I was appalled this A.M.! - Page 2

[JessicaS]

Originally Posted by heathergirl67

You think pharmaceutical companies are paying off the writers/producers of Sid the Science Kid?

http://www.cdc.gov/healthmarketing/e...ps/immuniz.htm

[MyFillingQuiver]

Originally Posted by abimommy

http://www.cdc.gov/healthmarketing/e...ps/immuniz.htm

Very informative link, thanks!

I'm especially thankful for the case examples at the bottom of the page. It would be SO fab to have a story line surrounding the non-vaccinating choice being one made out of ignorance, poverty, and conspiracy theory; rather than research, fact, study, common sense, healthy lifestyles, natural living, faith and whatever deep-seated and intelligent/free thinking motivations non-vaxer's have...

Oh wait..we already have that in mainstream media, print and "rumor" about non-vax'ing choices.

[Sileree]

Originally Posted by abimommy

http://www.cdc.gov/healthmarketing/e...ps/immuniz.htm

Wow. That link really rubs me the wrong way. "A Guide in Manipulation" is what it should be called.

[heathergirl67]

http://www.generationrescue.org/about/campaigns

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by abimommy

http://www.cdc.gov/healthmarketing/e...ps/immuniz.htm

Nauseating! Reminds me of that Private Practice episode about measles

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by heathergirl67

http://www.generationrescue.org/about/campaigns

Yes, I think we all see your point. Corporations, individuals, companies, anyone really can express an opinion about what they believe in and many of them use the media as an outlet to do so. That in and of itself is not the issue. The issue is how the information is being diseminated and in some cases censored, how it gets there in the first place, who is funding it, and why. Who benefits? Who profits? It's a bit more complicated then folks just espousing their beliefs about something.

[JessicaS]

Originally Posted by heathergirl67

http://www.generationrescue.org/about/campaigns

http://www.rd.com/health-slideshows/...e174741-1.html

RD: What can be done about public mistrust of vaccines?
KS:There are groups out there that insist that vaccines are responsible for a variety of problems despite all scientific evidence to the contrary. We have reached out to media outlets to try to get them to not give the views of these people equal weight in their reporting to what science has shown and continues to show about the safety of vaccines.

[Marnica]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppression_of_dissent

Suppression of dissent occurs when an individual or group which is more powerful than another tries to directly or indirectly censor, persecute or otherwise oppress the other party, rather than engage with and constructively respond to or accommodate the other party's arguments or viewpoint. When dissent is perceived as a threat, action may be taken to prevent continuing dissent or penalise dissidents. Government or industry[1] may often act in this way.

[Jadzia]

Originally Posted by heathergirl67

http://www.generationrescue.org/about/campaigns

Are you really conflating paid advertising (that is clearly labeled as an advertisement) with the deliberate insertion of marketing messages within the plots of the programs themselves?

[Turquesa]

Originally Posted by abimommy

http://www.rd.com/health-slideshows/...e174741-1.html

RD: What can be done about public mistrust of vaccines?
KS:There are groups out there that insist that vaccines are responsible for a variety of problems despite all scientific evidence to the contrary. We have reached out to media outlets to try to get them to not give the views of these people equal weight in their reporting to what science has shown and continues to show about the safety of vaccines.

For those who didn't read the whole thing, KS stands for Kathleen Sebelius, as in our nation's Secretary of Health and Human Services. It is for this reason that I get sick to death of people who deride us skeptics as "conspiracy theorists." It is not a theory. It is happening and coming straight out of "KS's" mouth.

What I'd like to know is exactly how they are "reaching out." I'm guessing that "reaching out" is probably more aggressive than simply saying, "Hey, if you get around to it, could you make sure to portray vaccines positively in your script? Thank you so kindly."

During the height of the swine flu hype, it seriously sounded as if news outlets were giving us vaccine commercials disguised as reporting.

CBS has done some more critical reporting of vaccines in the past, so I wonder where our government went wrong in trying to "reach out" to them.

[BeckyBird]

MyFillingQuiver--I agree with all of your posts.

This is not a conspiracy theory. Why do people believe mainstream media, and discredit any subject that goes against the norm? I listen to alternative news media, then actually research what they say.

www.infowars.com backs up its news articles with documents. Here is just one article about the flu hoax, the very reason for this infamous Sid episode.
http://www.infowars.com/who-scandal-...manufacturers/

Seriously, please just read the article. There are many more like it at infowars.

[phathui5]

Originally Posted by heathergirl67

You think pharmaceutical companies are paying off the writers/producers of Sid the Science Kid?

It wouldn't shock me.

[Deborah]

Originally Posted by heathergirl67

You think pharmaceutical companies are paying off the writers/producers of Sid the Science Kid?

You think PBS isn't influenced by donors?

PBS also gets government grants. Why should they swim against the stream and go against CDC direction?

Where do you suppose the plot line for this program was created? Do you think it was based on careful scientific research?

[mamadelbosque]

I always check to make sure we miss the episode of sid about vaxes... its on periodically. Didn't realize there was a martha speaks episode on it too... I'll have to watch for that now too

[terra-pip]

I've become aware of the propaganda for all sorts of things in kids shows lately. It's something i've been watching as well...i try to either have DVDs for them that I trust or watch with them and talk about what we see if it seems necessary.

[Angela512]

The vaccine industry is doing what the retail industry has been doing for years. The younger you teach children about "you" the more willing they'll be to keep going to "you". McD's, Burger King, Wendy's...they don't have those "cool toys" for no reason.

If they really wanted to teach children how to be healthy, they would have dicussed the importance of plenty of sleep and water, good nutrition, healthy food choices, and exercise.

This is why my children rarely watch TV. I don't need them to be bombarded with food ads, the newest toy to make them cool and these stupid pharm commercials.