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post #141 of 253

That is awesome Pariah and Laur318!

 

Pariah moving makes your declutter pretty quickly so that will help everything out! Music lessons are great! 

 

Laur318, does this mean CT is forming co-housing? You live there? Would love to know how beautiful it is! We hope to visit soon. 

 

Oh yeah my update (I am up packing and CListing because of tsunami warning.. Poor Japan! Those guys are like my family living here! I hope it helps them some how.. I know it is hard to hear, but they need something deep right now and this tragedy may help them find nature.. half of them seem like they are struggling with the "overworking" thing.. really..

 

Our house sale canceled.. yep, 5 days before closing, just so a much more beautiful Hawaiian Family takes it (actually answered my prayers, long story, but I prayed for it, got it!) And so we are kind of in limbo.. Anyone want to rent a house for $250 a week? but that actually won't cover much, but help, so.. We are kind of unsure to stay or go.. I want to leave soon, all of our stuff is in boxes, but I sure feel like staying it out for $2500 a month in mortgage! DH does not agree. poor guy is saying good bye to his dream.. I am too.. I hurts to let go.. I live in Paradise, but the bills are so high and the people work here almost none stop, and my family is so far away.. I wish so much I could "UP" my house! :D but also all the 25 fruit trees too. I want to find a very similar place that is just as beautiful! I hope and pray.. Or else we should go on our trip, win lotto and YES! Keep this home for a family vacation stay!!! It is sooooo beautiful.. And so much "Home"... Anyway.. I am trying to get amazing work done to get us out of here.. feel so in limbo.. I DO want to see my family and that is the final answer. Family that includes all of us, DH and kids, plus extended too. They see each other like 10 times a year.. we are really lucky if we afford to see them once. 


Edited by greenacresmama - 3/11/11 at 3:50am
post #142 of 253
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Originally Posted by MoonStarFalling View Post

I happened to pick up a book about unjobbing a few years ago at a book sale, Living Without an Income? DH quit his job a year ago and we traveled for 7 months. It was tough finding odd jobs on the road. Seemed like the unemployed rate was very high everywhere we went. We're back home now and DH is staying busy for the most part. I'm trying to not freak out about the irregular income! He is a carpenter who can build anything, fix anything, haul and tow things, he scraps metal etc. I'm trying to come up with ideas for things I would like to make a little money at.


Hi!

 

He did a fantastic job of fixing up our basement for us.  We mention his name to everyone who asks.  thumb.gif

 

I love the idea behind this thread.  I don't have a job right now, but unfortunately I don't have any real skills.  I don't know how to sew, crochet, knit, form pottery, or anything else that could bring in a little extra money.  I do have a little photography store on Etsy but I'm not selling now because I need to check and find out what I need to do about taxes.  It is so hard to get a straight answer about that stuff.  I don't want to accidentally break the law. 

 

Oh, have you tried selling some of the ring slings you make on Etsy?   I still have those photos of when you had your DD in the green sling on that nature walk trip a few years back.  It's a very nice looking carrier. 

post #143 of 253

I've been selling off extra books we had around the house out of my garage - $215 in the last two weeks between that and my normal yard sale stuff that I get with couponing. Unfortunately I'm still broke - I have maybe $10 to last until the end of the month. Guess I need to get to selling more books somehow. These are all ones that none of the buyback sites are buying, so I'm doing good to get a few bucks for them. I might have to take a few trips to half price books with them and take the little bit they give.

post #144 of 253

Out of curiosity- has anyone here nannied for other families? Did you bring your children with you or did you watch them at your own home? How did it work for you?

post #145 of 253
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Originally Posted by zenmumajen View Post

Out of curiosity- has anyone here nannied for other families? Did you bring your children with you or did you watch them at your own home? How did it work for you?



Photographer mama, Antonin, I love the idea of coloring book pages. Not sure if you want to expand, but I like that. I think your photo sessions are the better picks for that line of work, but I know hard to do with little ones. The other thing I was going to suggest is the common rights for others to make art of scrapbooking backgrounds from photo work. Your work is probably amazing I am probably full of it but DH and I have talked a lot about this hobby of his and I think it is kind of flooded with semi-proffesionals! Never, ever let me get you down because dreams move people and Ansel Adams is a fav! I just thing that a real stream of income is found in low cost bundles (low cost to you) wrapped nicely, useful as a gift, and unique from what other people offer, unless you live in a small town and can do indie photo sessions, but I really do know some freelance mothers and this is pretty demanding work! I love the flow of Etsy! It seems like people prep the items and then have a stocked store, especially before Christmas! 

 

Frugal Mama! Books are hard! I hope your yard sales pick up with the weather! people do seem to out shopping for deals! 

 

Zen, The best income I have seen like this is not a working family, but a SAHM!!! I think this is ideally done as a favor between friends that trade off! But IF you had amazing fun digs and whole assortment of play in a Waldorf way and also very cooking and natural with the kids, you would have a lot of business! I could see more of a pre-nap time with the SAHM that are more organic (nursing and all..) but sometimes, like the mama above, freelancing Unjobbers need a break to groove on some high paying work, and they just need a few hours of daytime kidfree time to line up there work, so I think it IS okay to bring your kids! It just has to be more at your home unless they prefer the other way around. I think that you could post something up at a health food store of CL and also be available for weekends and make that a creative fee! Like, you bring us a healthy meal, desert, and $10 for a whole night or pay by the hour, because then you worry not about food sharing or not and also just build a better relationship with the families while enhancing their couple happiness or "MNO" or even weddings. Sometimes date night can be traded with other families and while it is well meaning for them to try something during the week as trade offs, this usually isn't a guarentee commitment like a nanny for most moms (at least in Honolulu!) So I think a fun time at night or weekend is a big bonus to a service! Also maybe you taking off a weekday of your choice or something that works out! Also if you nanny at your house, you can get more kids to come. I like the idea of it being art and cooking classes held at your house a few mornings without parents. Not sure if that is a loop hole, but it would be much more fun not to do daycare.. probably not though. Maybe just one family is the answer! 

 

post #146 of 253

Thanks Leslie! You have got some great ideas. I too am beginning to think that one family is the answer...though I have heard of some mom's doing this. I was more into looking after just babies as there are a lot of ads on care.com for mom's around here who are looking for somebody to stay at home with their baby once they return to their job.

post #147 of 253
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Thanks Leslie! You have got some great ideas. I too am beginning to think that one family is the answer...though I have heard of some mom's doing this. I was more into looking after just babies as there are a lot of ads on care.com for mom's around here who are looking for somebody to stay at home with their baby once they return to their job.


Hi, I've had 3 or 4 nanny jobs, and I have always brought my son. But it might be more difficult with bringing more than one kid. Nannying is a great source of income, but it does have its drawbacks. I won't do it again, I expect. But I'm kind of a hermit... even though I like kids a lot. I always had school aged children which I hated, because of the homework thing and they didn't really know how to play, so there was a lot of TV watching and junk food eating.

 

post #148 of 253
I nannied for years. I brought my son to work after he was born. Remember you'll have a boss and have to keep certain hours and your kiddo has to follow another family's rules ... In addition to the actual work! Taking care of other peoples most precious little people smile.gif you can have a lot of fun with it if it's only once or twice a week. Any more and it feels like --eek-- a job!
Ps, make sure you pay your taxes too!!
post #149 of 253
Yea CT is currently forming a co-housing settlement in new haven county. If anyone wants info, email laur318@yahoo.com and I will forward it to u.
post #150 of 253
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Originally Posted by zenmumajen View Post

Out of curiosity- has anyone here nannied for other families? Did you bring your children with you or did you watch them at your own home? How did it work for you?

 

I nannied for two years before I had my son. I just stopped working in January. One of the reasons I wont go back besides wanting to make my own way, is because we agreed that bringing my child would be a bit harder. Of course this mom was getting ready to have her second, but bringing my child and still watching their's (a new baby and a three year old) would be tough to do full time. What I've considered doing is going back to the agency I started with and just doing temp work with them. They require that you're paid a certain amount plus overtime if needed, you can screen your work and turn some down and on to of that, it doesn't become long continuous work. Repetitive work, I should say. I'm thinking of going back to that maybe. Maybe you can do small jobs, find an agency, that kind of thing is what I would recommend.

 

I failed to ask - have you nannied before?
 

 

post #151 of 253
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Originally Posted by Laur318 View Post

Yea CT is currently forming a co-housing settlement in new haven county. If anyone wants info, email laur318@yahoo.com and I will forward it to u.


I'm interested in how it all works, but I'm not interested in living in CT...more interested in learning to see if something like this would work here, with people we know...can I still email?

 

Recently I sat hidden away at work and cried, I was so stressed and upset and just wanted to be home with my son. I decided that I WILL unjob, I will make all of this work...and since then, so many opportunities have fallen into my hands. :) Maybe getting to that point and deciding that yes, I NEED TO DO THIS was what I needed. I'm extremely introverted, but I've been reaching out to people who have unjobbed or are working artists to discuss it, I've learned a lot lately... I'm exhausted, don't get me wrong...lots of late nights recently...but it will all be worth it...

 

post #152 of 253

Thanks Mamas for your posts-- this thread really helps us stay focused c:

 

Greenacres-- so glad to hear about your answered prayer, although it sounds like it may have been a blessing in disguise at first <3

 

Zen-- I have nannied, and I always brought my dc with me-- ime the families who wanted "motherly' care for their dc also understood that supporting families meant supporting mine as well.

 

We have lambs! We have lambs! My black ewe had the most beautiful twins I have ever seen in my life (albeit I am highly biased in their favor). She delivered by herself on pasture, and was taking good care of them when we found her (a great sign since she was culled from her previous flock for giving birth and walking off like nothing ever happened). One twin was very tiny and weak, but now both are doing great. One down, one big as a barn and ready to go...

 

The land ownership issue was cleared up very nicely at no additional charge by my attorney (who only ever charged me $50 to execute the deed-- woohoo!)

 

We've dug almost all the drainage trench uphill of our guesthouse site, so it won't flood, and the starplates are in for the guesthouse and the storage shed. I've discovered thru trenching that I could not possibly be a dwarf bc I really really hate digging! I DO really like my waistline (it was previously in hibernation at an undisclosed location) which I found a few days into trenching-- seriously wanting a good workout? grab a pick. Next we fill it in w small rocks we find everywhere-- really, I have a rock farm-- they multiply when I'm not looking.

 

Most of the postholes for fence are dug, but half are a foot deep with water (this is still good-- think how easy the well-drilling will be!). I've heard various opinions from various locals re whether wooden posts are still an option-- I think not-- most of them think so... maybe I'll put the wooden ones in, knowing I have to upgrade to stone pillars or (~gasp~) t-posts in a few years...

 

We are ~really~ done renting. I love my friends dearly, and dislike my storage company greatly... but we're done w both. The guest house gets finished this month or else... or else what? Tents? Dif rental? Gah! Certainly not... Four able bodied, able-minded individuals ought to be able to create their own temp shelter in a few weeks, right?

 

We are looking for a male rabbit soon as well. My ds1 is butchering a goat this weekend for pay, he has a "job" at the local skating rink, which is really just play (plus turning down phone numbers from girls-- sheesh). He makes more trimming hooves than I do at anything -- I'm in the wrong line of work, LOL.

 

My new goal is to bid for a freelance job once a day. I was also referred to another author when I handed in my final edits to my author-friend-- this one for cash, not a share of profits-- woohoo for a little cash!

 

Still haven't ordered the garden seed yet bc I can't plant it 'til I fence the cattle out! Gah! Joined the farmers market association, and we have a big hurrah April 1, but i have nothing to sell! Gonna grow some sprouts, and make some soap and lotion! Maybe mustard and beet greens, too.

 

OH-- and we have decided on rocket heaters for both houses! I have been a skeptic for years, but after reading the book, I must admit, it would be even better than the finnish fireplace I was planning in the main house...

 

blessings-- keep us updated c:

post #153 of 253

ESG- No I have not nannied before. I have had babysitting jobs here and there. Thank you for bringing more of a perspective to the job for me. I'm not sure it would be the right thing for me. I started looking for temp agencies around here but didn't find anything. I am sure there is one though...I just must have been looking in the wrong place! 

 

post #154 of 253
Zenmumajen, I should have included this link to agencies but didn't remember it till now.

http://www.nanny.org/category/1/

It should show a directory of nanny agencies by state.
If it doesn't work (I'm on my phone) you should easily be able to search for nanny agencies on nanny.org.

I'm not quite sure if I want to go back to working with children right now. I think its more that I don't want a boss right now!
post #155 of 253

Can I join in?  I'm a self-employed massage therapist, cobbling together chair massage gigs with a private practice - now out of my newly constructed home studio! and DH is working on an escape from his cubicle job.  Baby #2 is due late June, and around that time he is going to ask for a "demotion," hopefully not a big pay cut but a shift to a less responsible job, just putting in the hours instead of having meetings at odd times and so forth, to spend more family time, and then hopefully he can quit for real sometime later on.  We have a really odd side business, a punk/indie karaoke show that we've been doing for 7 years now and just revamped the setup so it's easily transportable and operable by one person, and he's planning to shift gradually to doing that on weekends and touring occasionally, which he can do while he's still at the other place... it's a big leap to consider him giving up the day job, but we're both coming around to it.  It would mean I could work more, and now that I'm not paying rent anywhere, everything I make goes in the bank. 

 

It would also mean dropping health insurance, but I'm so sick of paying them to NOT cover any of the things we need them to, that shouldn't take too long to get used to.  I think it was the Michael Fogler Unjobbing book that noted health insurance is like betting against yourself to get sick.  We never go to the doctor!  If there was an emergent issue, we'd get treatment at the ER (what it's for) and set up a payment plan after the fact.  If there was a chronic illness, like cancer or something, I've had terrible family experiences with the medical establishment in that regard and would likely try EVERYTHING else before their standard treatments, which would surely be out of pocket.  Everything else (basic dental and vision care, chiropractic, acupuncture, herbs, eating well, exercise, homeopathic stuff, probiotics) we already mostly pay out of pocket for anyway, and sometimes you can arrange deals for paying up front in cash rather than filing for insurance.  Our medical insurance has a $2500 yearly deductible and we pay hundreds a month for that privilege!  YIKES

 

The insurance issue is such a sticking point for people in the US considering unjobbing!  I have a friend with early kidney disease, and she's been in jobs she hates for years and years because she can't afford to have a break in her continuous insurance coverage - no one would take her after that, it'd be a pre-existing condition, and she knows she'll need certain expensive treatments.  So she spends her waking hours and energy, year after year, feeling stuck!  How is that healthy?  She's a superb baker and is dreaming of starting a side business making desserts.  I know she'd do a great job of it full-time, and LOVE life so much more... It makes me so mad at the system, longing for an alternative. 

 

I saw the link someone posted to MediShare, and it got me thinking.  Once a long time ago I read about the history of the AMA, and before they got so powerful there were often private cooperatives that paid for a doctor among the participants.  As I recall, there's a similar system in place in Germany.  We are all scattered to the geographical winds, and each have our own preferences for health care providers, but money is easily transportable these days... I wonder what it would take to get some kind of organized unjobbers health "insurance" coop started... the basic idea I had would be to find people who feel the same way about medical treatment (responsible for staying healthy and preventing illness, avoiding allopathic interventions in health, but using them when that option becomes necessary - not too tough here on MDC, I'd think) and we'd all sign a serious long-term contract to the effect that everybody saves a certain amount (% with a minimum?) regularly in their own designated health savings account rather than to an insurance company, agreed to be set aside for a certain long period of time, and if anyone from the group had a serious issue within that timeframe that required piles of money, everyone would give an amount (% with a minimum?) to the affected person so they don't lose everything.  I think it'd work, mostly because big horrible health issues really are rare (or health insurance companies would go out of business - they usually win the bet, that you won't get sick).  It's really an issue of critical mass, I'd think.  With the right number of participants, any one person's need would only require a small payout from each family.

 

I sure am feeling ambitious this morning.  At the least, this would need the involvement of a lawyer and a financial guru... anybody wanna dream with me?  Maybe someone could create a PT unjob as the coop coordinator :)

post #156 of 253

I'm liking this idea. I cut out my health insurance a little bit ago as it wasn't paying for anything either. I spent more money with insurance than I do without it.

So yeah, count me in somehow cause I'm up for dreaming with you. I think its an interesting idea to take a leap into. It's not anywhere near as bad as getting locked into insurance premiums, thats for sure. With a drawn up agreement, I'm sure this could be great. Where do we go from here?
 

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I saw the link someone posted to MediShare, and it got me thinking.  Once a long time ago I read about the history of the AMA, and before they got so powerful there were often private cooperatives that paid for a doctor among the participants.  As I recall, there's a similar system in place in Germany.  We are all scattered to the geographical winds, and each have our own preferences for health care providers, but money is easily transportable these days... I wonder what it would take to get some kind of organized unjobbers health "insurance" coop started... the basic idea I had would be to find people who feel the same way about medical treatment (responsible for staying healthy and preventing illness, avoiding allopathic interventions in health, but using them when that option becomes necessary - not too tough here on MDC, I'd think) and we'd all sign a serious long-term contract to the effect that everybody saves a certain amount (% with a minimum?) regularly in their own designated health savings account rather than to an insurance company, agreed to be set aside for a certain long period of time, and if anyone from the group had a serious issue within that timeframe that required piles of money, everyone would give an amount (% with a minimum?) to the affected person so they don't lose everything.  I think it'd work, mostly because big horrible health issues really are rare (or health insurance companies would go out of business - they usually win the bet, that you won't get sick).  It's really an issue of critical mass, I'd think.  With the right number of participants, any one person's need would only require a small payout from each family.

 

I sure am feeling ambitious this morning.  At the least, this would need the involvement of a lawyer and a financial guru... anybody wanna dream with me?  Maybe someone could create a PT unjob as the coop coordinator :)



AFM,

 I've yet to make any money with any of my ideas but I seem to add more to the list on a daily basis.

 My son is nearing 6 weeks old and if this was a 'regular' work situation, I'd be heading back to work soon.

 Instead I'm brainstorming and working on ideas to keep this leave going indefinitely.

 

I'm thinking about selling cloth diapers from home. I'm planning to make some too but to get started I'll just look into selling some. I just looked up wholesale stuff of a few brands. 

 

I have a gluten free shop that I need to pay more attention to. I've had it a while but got busy with other stuff.

 

I've worked out several baby clothing ideas many of which can just be applied to onesies. It could work as I now have my own little model.

 

I had a photography site where I just uploaded my own photos. I intend to sell prints. I'm working on updating this as I type.

 

There are other things I want to do too. It's just a matter of time, I guess, before I get it all going.

 

Beyond that I have a few random things to list online to sell. Much to do.

 

How is everyone else doing this week?

post #157 of 253

Insurance is a big part of why I Unjob and choose to live below the poverty level - if I don't make much I can get Medicaid. Since my health care otherwise runs a couple hundred every month if nothing is wrong {I have a thyroid problem and must take several medications for it}, it makes much more sense financially to make less and qualify for medicaid.

 

 

We've been broker than broke - I've been taking extra books to Half Price Books to try to clear out and make more room, and I have another box or two to send off to the buyback sites. I need to come up with something else income wise to supplement my book money - I need something were I can make around $9000 a year at it, maybe up to $13,000 a year with it. Any ideas? I can't do childcare due to my health, I've considered proofreading for college students but I'm not sure how it pays now, and I've been debating writing a book. I've considered opening an etsy shop for headcovers but I'm not sure how well those would sell either.

post #158 of 253

I hear you on the broke part. We make it but still. I'm in the process of cutting down all my expenses too. So many things around here that I can live without.

I've considered taking books to half price funny enough but I doubt the ones I've considered taking would even be bought.

 

I say do the headcovers, the proofreading. Write your book and sale E-copies. You could even do just short stories and sale them that way.

Maybe you could make several short books based on your health condition and topics that effect you and sale that. Like how to live day to day, what to do now that you're diagnosed. I don't know your condition and I hope that idea doesn't sound too dumb but I figure its something you know enough about so maybe it could be a somewhat constant source of income for you.

 

Do you have a car? You could offer to take people's old items off their hands and sale whatever is usable. If its more convincing for them, you could give them a percentage.

Maybe just dumpster dive, fix up whatever it is and sale it. That's something I wanted to do too. Get items from goodwill, fix them up. You get my drift.

Something that doesn't take startup money? I'll have to think on it. Do you have a camera? You could try selling prints. Thats one thing I'm working on now too.

 

I don't know. Just throwing some ideas out for you. They aren't the best, I know, but still maybe someone can get something from that pile! :)
 

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Insurance is a big part of why I Unjob and choose to live below the poverty level - if I don't make much I can get Medicaid. Since my health care otherwise runs a couple hundred every month if nothing is wrong {I have a thyroid problem and must take several medications for it}, it makes much more sense financially to make less and qualify for medicaid.

 

 

We've been broker than broke - I've been taking extra books to Half Price Books to try to clear out and make more room, and I have another box or two to send off to the buyback sites. I need to come up with something else income wise to supplement my book money - I need something were I can make around $9000 a year at it, maybe up to $13,000 a year with it. Any ideas? I can't do childcare due to my health, I've considered proofreading for college students but I'm not sure how it pays now, and I've been debating writing a book. I've considered opening an etsy shop for headcovers but I'm not sure how well those would sell either.



 

post #159 of 253

Hi everyone, hope you're doing well! DH has become more on board with the whole unjobbing concept... he's really eager to try something new out. We're both tired of working for the man :)  I have an idea that sounds sort of crazy, but I have been researching it and it might be something workable here. Or not. :) We're considering worm farming, lol. It is funny because DH hates bugs and I don't particularly like them either, but we think what those gross little squiggly things do is fascinating. There are a ton of gardens around here and farmers markets and etc. where we might be able to sell the worm castings. We are in the very early stages of researching it. I think it might be something that will earn us a little extra income, especially since we are both facing unemployment soon.

 

post #160 of 253

Does your DH work? or are you not married? our state looks at the incomes of both married partners.

I too have an expensive medication that requires insurance
 

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Originally Posted by frugalmama View Post

Insurance is a big part of why I Unjob and choose to live below the poverty level - if I don't make much I can get Medicaid. Since my health care otherwise runs a couple hundred every month if nothing is wrong {I have a thyroid problem and must take several medications for it}, it makes much more sense financially to make less and qualify for medicaid.



 

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