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post #161 of 253
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Originally Posted by Laur318 View Post

Does your DH work? or are you not married? our state looks at the incomes of both married partners.

I too have an expensive medication that requires insurance
 



 

 

I'm single with just one DD. It only works in my state as long as you have a child under 18 - mine is 4. I have no idea what I'll do when she turns 18 and I don't qualify anymore.
 

 

post #162 of 253
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Originally Posted by lovelylisa View Post

Hi everyone, hope you're doing well! DH has become more on board with the whole unjobbing concept... he's really eager to try something new out. We're both tired of working for the man :)  I have an idea that sounds sort of crazy, but I have been researching it and it might be something workable here. Or not. :) We're considering worm farming, lol. It is funny because DH hates bugs and I don't particularly like them either, but we think what those gross little squiggly things do is fascinating. There are a ton of gardens around here and farmers markets and etc. where we might be able to sell the worm castings. We are in the very early stages of researching it. I think it might be something that will earn us a little extra income, especially since we are both facing unemployment soon.

 

 

I was just talking about worm farming, lol. I was trying to figure out if it's better to do it myself, or to buy. If I could get them at the farmer's market for a decent price, I'd buy them. I have 270 birds to feed come the first week of May. :) Great idea, I think!
 

 

post #163 of 253

Hi mamas :)

 

Hope you don't mind me jumping in.  I've been following this thread for a few weeks now, and when I first saw it I was so happy because there was a name for how I've been living my life. 

 

I'm a single mum of two kids, and I haven't worked in a conventional job since before my daughter was born.   When I was with my ex, I started doing a bit of ebay, initially just to get rid of the kids things as they got older, as with one income we were definitely on a budget, plus our house being small the clutter would accumulate quite quickly.  I really got into it, and started reselling things I'd find at the thrift stores.  I've always had a good eye and can spot something with resale value a mile away, ha.   In the meanwhile, I could do this while staying at home with my kids.  It soon became income that we desperately needed because of my ex's spending habits.  Simply put, he wanted to have a lifestyle we really couldn't afford.  He was very passive-aggressive and resented me staying at home, when what would come out of his mouth was "i'll support you no matter what you want to do."  I felt it important to be at home with my kids, for a variety of reasons- daycare costs here are really high, I'd left my job in another city when I married him and knew I would find it difficult to get a decently paying job here because I don't speak French, and his job is very intense, requiring travel out of town.  I do believe that it is very difficult in a relationship for both parents to have "alpha" jobs where there are young kids- someone needs to be more focused on home.  And that was me, especially since he was never especially engaged with the kids.

 

About a year and a half ago he left me, after years of infidelities, on top of us having very different values at the end of the day.  Suddenly I was on my own with the kids 75% of the time.  I get child and spousal support from him, and it's a decent amount, but I have debts that accumulated during our marriage.  I'm reselling like mad, doing surveys online, working little casual jobs that I hear about through word of mouth...all so that I can continue to be at home with my kids.  It's working.  I'm happy being with them, and I've paid down $12k of debt since he left.  He really wants me to get a full-time job of course so that he can reduce the amount of support he pays me, but I don't want to go back to that grind.  I did it once upon a time and it cost me in ways that are immeasurable- the stress, the general unhappiness, always feeling rushed, etc.   Being at home also allows me to have the time to live a more frugal, simple lifestyle- I have time and energy to grown my own veggies, can, bake from scratch, hang laundry on the line, etc.

 

These days I'm doing a LOT of reselling.  I go through peaks and valleys with my sales depending on my energy level and what else is going on in my life.  Also doing a bit of pet-sitting, surveys online, and occasionally I help out at a friend's workplace doing office work when they have a big mailing to be done.  It's all good :)

 

Ha, I didn't mean to write a novel here- but I just want to say I'm so happy to have found this tribe :)

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Hi mamas :)

 

Hope you don't mind me jumping in.  I've been following this thread for a few weeks now, and when I first saw it I was so happy because there was a name for how I've been living my life. 

......

Ha, I didn't mean to write a novel here- but I just want to say I'm so happy to have found this tribe :)

 Nice to meet you!

 

I'm a new and single mama so I love to hear about other mamas who are able to do what they love and stay home with their family. I'm trying my best right now and so far I'm enjoying it though I'm not yet used to a reduced income. I'm not going to complain though. I love spending my days with my son.

 

Congrats on it all and paying down your debt.That's awesome!

post #165 of 253

Quick update:

 

In addition to our 270 birds, we now have secured a piglet, and have found a wonderful dog, too. She's a border collie- german shepherd cross and better than finding gold. She's seven months old- perfect. We needed a dog to primarily watch over our children because we now have wild cats coming near- one was caught a few minutes down the highway on someone else's farm.

 

I include our livestock because it is better than money in that we need far less cash when our food is raised at home, and for now, it's paramount to the success of our other endeavours.

 

The book illustrations are done- 97 files with over 100 drawings. Done, and now paid for, though I need to provide an invoice yet.

 

This week, I'll complete a book cover illustration that I traded for a season's market vendor fee and membership to the market society. This entitles me to a 10'x10' space for my tent every Thursday, and the opportunity to use a space at the Christmas market. Both markets draw a large population, and my friends manage to make enough to live on by selling there. It's a nice market. I'm planning to sell artwork, hand printed t-shirts and hand-dipped pure beeswax candles with pure hemp wick- to start with. The market season begins on May 19th.

 

I was offerred a commission that I turned down because of my philosophical objection to its contents. I also turned down the opportunity to head-up the start-up and operation of an organisation that is badly needed where I live. I was asked to do it, but I have other plans. On the plus, though, my dp is totally into it, so he's looking into doing it himself, and it's not a small business (purchased job, imo), but a very flexible, very social, soft-activism platform for people involved in food security/sovereignty/distribution/etc... It's as big as the operator wants it to be- wide open opportunity. Dp has some research to do before making a firm decision, but his present job is a contract position that ends May 31st, so he's beginning to feel a bit of pressure to make some serious decisions.

 

My four older dc have discovered that they are capable of voluntary trade and want to offer their wares at the market. I'm excited to see what they do! The market is very barter-friendly as well as quality-insistent, so this will be a great experience for them, I think (and hope). I couldn't dream up a better environment for learning how voluntary trade works. I'm expecting to learn as much as they do! :) They've been asking questions and role playing their imagined transactions and interactions with people there. It's fascinating to listen to their ideas and innocent expectations, that they presume fairness and mutual consideration, etc... I love it. love.gif

 

I'm finding that very quickly, it seems that I'm running out of day a few hours too soon. It's very hard to do this while tied to a job; the transition is very inefficient and chaotic. I understand why some people opt to just stop jobbing and then become (necessarily) super creative when reality sets in. We're not wanting that fight-or-flight experience because we have five children. If we were childless, I'd have no qualms about just cutting loose, but providing for my children requires wise, calculated risk-taking, and we are challenged by figuring out where the cross-over line is, and how to get from here to there. Experience is definitely our teacher in this; intuition is taking a bit of a backseat here- probably for the first time ever. :)

post #166 of 253

wave.gifHello! I've been following this thread but have not posted about us before now. My family is working to move to a live-aboard sailboat in the near future. We're trying to figure out the best way for us to make a living as we go. We mainly want to just be with our son, enjoy spending time with him, explore new locales, and have adventures until he's grown and gone.

DH and I both work in the web development realm, have 30 years combined experience, and while we could just try to create web sites for others what we've found is that it's just as bad or worse than working full time jobs. All the client acquisition, customer service, billing, etc.does not suit us. So we're exploring our options.
 

We've got some passive income ideas, some things in progress which do include building web sites or applications (we do enjoy it when it's our own projects), now just to get them launched and/or profitable. As a previous poster mentioned, it's hard to do in addition to demanding jobs. Meanwhile we're working on debt elimination, boat payment savings, decluttering and otherwise getting ready for our new life. It's the excitement (and reading boat magazines!) that keeps us going.smile.gif

Love hearing all the stories of how others are making it work or progressing on plans.

post #167 of 253

Hello iris, nice to have you here. Taking off on a sailboat sounds like so much fun not to mention a good bit of relaxation. My plan as well is to be able to be with my son till he's older. You can never get time back. I've never been more reminded of that till I had my son. I can't wait to hear how that transition from land to sea, if you will, goes for your family.

 

I've taken up cake baking. I've yet to profit from it but it holds my interest enough that I'll be surprised not to continue with it to the point of regular income. I made a cake for Mother's Day and that got good compliments. Was even compared to my sister who is an awesome baker. I have a project on the burner as well as a few plans. Beyond the cake making, I think I'll start a very simple photography business. I have the camera, just need to study up and improve. Can you tell I'm trying my hardest to never have to return to work again? Lol! Ideas are popping up like crazy!

 

How is everyone doing? Anything new and exciting to report??

 

 

post #168 of 253

Not much to report here - had a garage sale a few weeks ago and sold $500 worth, all stockpile items. Not too bad - wish it had been more though. Didn't have any of my regulars come which was weird.

 

 

Still broke overall.

post #169 of 253
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Originally Posted by frugalmama View Post

Still broke overall.


 

Sounds about right on my end as well, frugalmama.

As tough as it is though, I'd still never go back to my other job. Towards the end, I was a huge stressed mess. Just wish this came with more money.

 

I did sign up for a group study on banking for tomorrow. That will bring in 125 but the majority of it is going to pay off the doula.

Shouldn't complain cause money is coming in at all but still wish this came with more money.

post #170 of 253
Throughly enjoying this thread. Thinking about my own unjobbing. Was a web dev working horrible hours but with some awesome clients (Apple!!!) but I guess my time was up. My boss was almost younger then me so I guess I needed to scoot over for the boy/girl wonders!

Here's something I've ALWAYS dreamed of doing but what I think I know is you are either starving or rich doing so... A singer in a band. I love singing and have been deemed a karaoke queen back in my bar hopping days! How to do THAT and make money?!?! Hrmm... Anyone on here doing that currently?
post #171 of 253
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Originally Posted by ExOfficia View Post

Hi mamas :)

 

Hope you don't mind me jumping in.  I've been following this thread for a few weeks now, and when I first saw it I was so happy because there was a name for how I've been living my life. 

 

I'm a single mum of two kids, and I haven't worked in a conventional job since before my daughter was born.   When I was with my ex, I started doing a bit of ebay, initially just to get rid of the kids things as they got older, as with one income we were definitely on a budget, plus our house being small the clutter would accumulate quite quickly.  I really got into it, and started reselling things I'd find at the thrift stores.  I've always had a good eye and can spot something with resale value a mile away, ha.   In the meanwhile, I could do this while staying at home with my kids.  It soon became income that we desperately needed because of my ex's spending habits.  Simply put, he wanted to have a lifestyle we really couldn't afford.  He was very passive-aggressive and resented me staying at home, when what would come out of his mouth was "i'll support you no matter what you want to do."  I felt it important to be at home with my kids, for a variety of reasons- daycare costs here are really high, I'd left my job in another city when I married him and knew I would find it difficult to get a decently paying job here because I don't speak French, and his job is very intense, requiring travel out of town.  I do believe that it is very difficult in a relationship for both parents to have "alpha" jobs where there are young kids- someone needs to be more focused on home.  And that was me, especially since he was never especially engaged with the kids.

 

About a year and a half ago he left me, after years of infidelities, on top of us having very different values at the end of the day.  Suddenly I was on my own with the kids 75% of the time.  I get child and spousal support from him, and it's a decent amount, but I have debts that accumulated during our marriage.  I'm reselling like mad, doing surveys online, working little casual jobs that I hear about through word of mouth...all so that I can continue to be at home with my kids.  It's working.  I'm happy being with them, and I've paid down $12k of debt since he left.  He really wants me to get a full-time job of course so that he can reduce the amount of support he pays me, but I don't want to go back to that grind.  I did it once upon a time and it cost me in ways that are immeasurable- the stress, the general unhappiness, always feeling rushed, etc.   Being at home also allows me to have the time to live a more frugal, simple lifestyle- I have time and energy to grown my own veggies, can, bake from scratch, hang laundry on the line, etc.

 

These days I'm doing a LOT of reselling.  I go through peaks and valleys with my sales depending on my energy level and what else is going on in my life.  Also doing a bit of pet-sitting, surveys online, and occasionally I help out at a friend's workplace doing office work when they have a big mailing to be done.  It's all good :)

 

Ha, I didn't mean to write a novel here- but I just want to say I'm so happy to have found this tribe :)


Wow, that's great! Thanks for sharing your story. I always love hearing about other single mothers who are doing what they can to stay home. :)

 

post #172 of 253

I wish I could un-job. I always wanted to be a massage therapit and yoga instructor, but I let my ex convince me if I was going to spend time in school that it needed to be for a more 'popular and mainstream' career so I spent three years doing general ed and prerequisite courses to just now be able to start nursing school next fall which will take two more years before I can get a job. The more I think about it the more I realize I never wanted to become a nurse I would much rather help people in a more holistic manner. But I've spent three years and taken out student loans to do this so I might as well follow it through. Perhaps someday I can save up enough money to live my dream at home with my kids and teach yoga on top of a mountain.

 

post #173 of 253

My husband has struggled with whether or not he should finish his degree. He's close, and taken out all these loans so on the one hand he wants to just get the diploma.  But he doesn't want to do what he studied, and it's not worth even MORE debt to us right now.

 

Things are tight right now, we are trying to get the house ready to sell or rent. DH is doing a little bit of web design, a little bit of work for an old employer, some house painting for friends.  I've been selling stuff on craigslist, but I'm out of stuff to sell and need to figure out how I'll chip in now in addition to saving us money everywhere I can.  I can't wait until we don't have to come up with the house payment every month, we'll have so much freedom!

post #174 of 253

mamayogibear, I wish you could live your dream too. You'll still have student loans in two years. Would it really be so hard to ditch that schooling and use what you've already learned towards your massage therapy/yoga work? I'm sure you've had some Biology, Anatomy or something in there thats useful towards your other studies. That could totally work out but then again life is almost always better said than done. I'd just hate for you to have to wait it out another two years when you don't sound into nursing.

 

I hear you Paigekitten! My mortgage is the largest expense I have and I see several more years with it if I can't come up with major funds. I'd like to at least pay it off by the time my 4 month old is 10! I'm down to selling things on craigslist as well. I'm about to apply to a small job out of the house but I'm so not ready to do that.

 

I can understand your husband's position. I was going to go back to school for prereqs for another degree but I can't put up with the extra debt and can't even guarantee that that will help us any. Its a very hard choice.

post #175 of 253
We are also really tight with money right now. We are low-income and am trying to follow my passion to be a doula but it is not a money making field by any means. I have a birth lined up but am doing it for free as I am still in training so it is really frustrating when people discourage me from being a doula. We are considering moving in with the in laws as they have property and now that our baby is turning into a toddler we thought it would be a better space to play rather than in an apt complex. I am willing to sacrifice alot of things so I may stay at home with my son. I really want to get into soap making and candles. I actually met a really nice lady at our farmer's market who makes soaps the old fashioned way and I would love for her to train me but not sure if she would be willing to. Other than that I have really run out of ideas for income...sorry if I rambled.
post #176 of 253

zenmama, you should ask her! Maybe she'd love to train you if you offer to work for her at the market. If not, google is full of resources (though I know its not the same as hands on). Go for it! :)

 

 

post #177 of 253

All the massage therapy schools here are very exclusive and won't let me transfer courses in because the 'focus' isn't massage based! As for yoga the only way to become an instructor is to get trained for an amount of hands on hours through an institute or yoga alliance certified teacher trainer. I plan on doing that once i can afford to though! I really am not that into nursing but I suppose I could do two more years of school after  becoming an RN and  become a nurse-midwife. I think I would like that even though it would not happen for four years.

I wish I could practice as an unlicensed massage therapist for donations instead of for income... but that is probably illegal in a few ways:P

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mamayogibear, I wish you could live your dream too. You'll still have student loans in two years. Would it really be so hard to ditch that schooling and use what you've already learned towards your massage therapy/yoga work? I'm sure you've had some Biology, Anatomy or something in there thats useful towards your other studies. That could totally work out but then again life is almost always better said than done. I'd just hate for you to have to wait it out another two years when you don't sound into nursing.

 

 

post #178 of 253


Thanks esg for the words of encouragement- I just might! 

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zenmama, you should ask her! Maybe she'd love to train you if you offer to work for her at the market. If not, google is full of resources (though I know its not the same as hands on). Go for it! :)

 

 



 

post #179 of 253
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Originally Posted by mamayogibear View Post

All the massage therapy schools here are very exclusive and won't let me transfer courses in because the 'focus' isn't massage based! As for yoga the only way to become an instructor is to get trained for an amount of hands on hours through an institute or yoga alliance certified teacher trainer. I plan on doing that once i can afford to though! I really am not that into nursing but I suppose I could do two more years of school after  becoming an RN and  become a nurse-midwife. I think I would like that even though it would not happen for four years.

I wish I could practice as an unlicensed massage therapist for donations instead of for income... but that is probably illegal in a few ways:P


Sounds like you have a good backup with the nurse - midwife part. That could give you something to look for and work towards. I do understand having to hold off on something till you can afford it. You'll be on your way soon!

 

 

 

post #180 of 253

You're welcome! If you go for it, I hope it works out!
 

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Thanks esg for the words of encouragement- I just might! 



 



 

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