|Originally posted by Unreal
and what if that is done to her
and she goes to rehab and gets cleaned up
and is a productive member of society
and wants to have kids
because 'We The People' (hahaha) had "her tubes tied or her uterus ripped out" without her consent
edit cause I was chasing a kid and typing....
The likely hood if this happening is slim to none. I spend a lot of time reading, researching this very issue. Due to her history, supposed diagnosis, etc. she is unlikely to possess the skills to be a good mother. She doesnt have a conscience in my opinion. She abused her other children, then went on to get pregnant, and do drugs and drink, and ignore medical advice that could have saved her other child.
If she wants to be a productive member of society later, than great, but I dont think she should have children. EVER AGAIN. I think three times you are out. You beat kids -- you dont get to keep them. Fill your body with drugs and alcohol while pregnant that are not only lethal to the unborn but causes permanent brain damamage and physical damage for the rest of their life -- well you shouldnt have any more kids. EVER AGAIN.
Past behavior predicts future behavior.
I have talked to women like her, I have dealt with women like her -- they do not need to be having children, over and over again. If they do not abuse in one area, the abuse in another. I'm not going to apolgize for caring more about the offspring of these women than the women themselves. I am parenting one of these children from someone who was reckless and irresponsible with their unborn child with full knowledge it was damaging.
I really dont care if she wants to have kids later and is clean, she has had four children, one dead, one damaged for life due to drugs and alcohol, and two others that were abused, one beaten in the face -- sorry but she had her chance at mothering and she blew it. If she wants to take care of something later on-- grow a garden or have some houseplants. If she can take care of that without killing it off maybe she can graduate to a pet.
I will say this, if their is a fund collected to pay her to consent to being sterilized, I will contribute.