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Question about LH surges

post #1 of 10
6/14/10 at 11:24am
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Hi

I've just started charting my temps and using an otc ovulation predictor kit and have some questions. Ok, so on day 9/10 my temps started to go up steadily then on day 13 my temp dipped down to 96.97 (about .5 degrees lower) the next day I had a LH surge and my temp went back up and continued to climb then on day 18 I had another dip in temp (about .7 lower) and another LH surge and my temp went back up and continued to climb 'til day 22 when it peaked and has continued to go down. I'm on day 26 now, I ave a 30 day cycle.

I bought a 30 day ovulation kit and started checking the day after my period stopped and continued thru day 23. I followed the instructions to the t and I took the readings in the late afternoon, not in the morning bacause I read that afternoon readings were more accurate.

My question is why would I get two LH surges? Did I do it incorrectly or am I ovulating twice? I don't plan on trying to conceive for a few more months until I can discern a pattern and make sure I am as healthy as I can be.

Also I started taking Vitex/vit B fertility recipe at the beginning of my cycle.

Any help would be appreciated.
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post #2 of 10
6/14/10 at 11:58am
I would guess that you probably ovulated on CD18 with a 30 day cycle - you may have geared up to ovulate on CD13 or so, but didn't, and then ovulated on or around CD18. I am fairly certain you would not have had an LH surge in your LP which is why I don't think you o'ed at cd13ish. That would give you a 12 day LP which is good enough to get pregnant with - my cycle is actually really similar - CD17 or 18 ovulation, 12 day lp.
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post #3 of 10
6/14/10 at 12:15pm
Do you have a chart we can look at ?
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post #4 of 10
6/14/10 at 1:40pm
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ok, I went and made a chart at fertility friends and it does look like day 18 was the day. Here is the chart.

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/19e391

Thanks for the info
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post #5 of 10
6/14/10 at 2:00pm
It is not unusual at all to have more than one lh surge.
Some woman have it every cycle.
This is one of the reasons the opk are not as helpful as charting, because only when the temperature is up you will really know whether you ovulated.

They may help women with very varying cycles and a man with low sperm count though- to bd just before/on ovulation day.
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post #6 of 10
6/14/10 at 3:07pm
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That's good to know.
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post #7 of 10
6/14/10 at 4:41pm
what larablue said is correct- well, i would say it isnt typical to have more than 1 lh surge show up on your opks, but it does happen, where you gear up to o but dont, only to get another surge and o a few days later. but your chart link isnt the right one- it's the link under "homepage setup." the chart would really help to see it.
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post #8 of 10
6/14/10 at 6:48pm
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I believe I fixed the link, let me know if it's not going to the correct one.
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post #9 of 10
6/14/10 at 8:09pm
yep, it works.

well, i dont know. when in doubt, i always start with the FAM method, and by that, your coverline would be 97.5, and it would say you o'd on cd14. when you say you had an lh surge, you mean that you had a +opk? positive as in the test line was as dark or darker than the control line? the other thing that could be a confounding factor of course is temping technique. are you really consistant with your sleep pattern? do you sleep soundly at least 3 but preferably 6 or more straight hours, wake up and take your temp immediately under your tongue in the same spot with your mouth closed (or vaginally) at the same time every day? do you mouth breathe at night? is the ambient temp consistent?

the last thing to consider is that some studies suggest some women do have more than one lh surge per month. some may even ovulate twice, days apart, even though we are told that is virtually impossibe due to progesterone. im not sure how temp would typically react to that, as it is lowered by higher estrogen or less progesterone, not lh per se, but lh and estrogen are related through the dominant follicle development. we know you can gear up to ovulate more than once, but i mean possibly gearing up, o'ing, and gearing up again.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...e-a-month.html
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post #10 of 10
6/14/10 at 8:26pm
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Originally Posted by karmab View Post
when you say you had an lh surge, you mean that you had a +opk? positive as in the test line was as dark or darker than the control line?
yes, that's what showed on those two days. The other days the test line was barely there or not at all. Those two days the test line was slightly darker than the control line.


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the other thing that could be a confounding factor of course is temping technique. are you really consistant with your sleep pattern? do you sleep soundly at least 3 but preferably 6 or more straight hours, wake up and take your temp immediately under your tongue in the same spot with your mouth closed (or vaginally) at the same time every day? do you mouth breathe at night? is the ambient temp consistent?
I go to sleep around 10:30 - 11 everynight and wake up between 5:30 and 6 in the morning. I do take my temp first thing when I wake up under my tongue, mouth closed. Room temp is consistant and I don't think I am a mouth breather.

Thanks for the link.
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