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ec turned to "letting the 1yr old pee on the floor"

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
ok ladies, ive come to you before feeling stressed about this, but lately ive just noticed that ec for us has turned into, the baby pees on the floor. really, thats just the truth. I caught one pee and two poops last week.
We set her on the potty and she gets right back up and walks away, and then pees on the floor, minutes, seconds, after getting off the potty. she starts to poop and then turns stiff as a board and will not set on the potty. ect.
what do we do? She only wears diapers when we go out, or when she's peed/pooped x number of times on the floor today and i just cant clean up another mess.
im not angry or frustrated with her, or wanting to quit.. i just feel like we've gotten off track somewhere, and im seeing no cues and i have a 1yr old who wont sit on the potty. We have three differnt potties, and a seat for the big potty. nothing.

help?
post #2 of 10
I'm watching this thread because we're there too. We didn't do EC but I'm trying to do some early potty training. It was working for a while but now he won't pee in the potty AT ALL.
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
at least we can be in pee land together.
post #4 of 10
It sounds like she's starting to make the connection between potty and elimination. She just doesn't have her timing right yet.

When my daughter started doing this, that was around the time we switched to gerber underwear (it's like a thicker cotton weave undie). It would contain the poop, and hold enough pee that I would usually catch her before it started to leak (they're designed to hold a trickle of pee, not a full bladder release), then I could rush the potty over to her and quickly sit her on it (or rush her over to the potty if she'd let me, but often disturbing her in mid pee would upset her so it was easier for me to bring the potty to her).

I think it took a SOLID 2, maybe 3 weeks before the messes started to go in the potty. But during those few weeks, it was exactly as you described.

One thing I can suggest to you is to stop trying so hard, and to just offer when you think (or know) that she needs it (like immediately after waking, eating, bathing, if she's been dry for a long period of time, if she's had a lot to drink, etc), and take her into the bathroom with you when you pee.

She'll get it probably quicker than you think!
post #5 of 10
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Originally Posted by AFWife View Post
I'm watching this thread because we're there too. We didn't do EC but I'm trying to do some early potty training. It was working for a while but now he won't pee in the potty AT ALL.
He has better things to do, than to stop to pee. My daughter also went through this. One day she woke up and we didn't have a miss for almost 2 months... then we had nothing BUT misses. Now (at 20 months) she'll usually take herself (if she's nudie bum - she still doesn't tell me if she needs to go, or that she's wet... but that's another problem altogether).
post #6 of 10
DD did something similar for a while, then I realized that she was bored on the potty so I started with more books and toys while on the potty and once in a while I set her on the big potty without the insert like you would a big kid this works really well especially if I know she has to pee or I want her to pee before we leave on in the car!
She still doesn't signal and I go mainly on intuition and timing!
And we still have days when she repeatedly pees on the floor but I have now noticed that these are also the days when her schedule gets messed up or I'm not paying enough attention to her!

Not sure if this helps you any but I say just keep offering and trying different things!
post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by conniebonnie View Post
ok ladies, ive come to you before feeling stressed about this, but lately ive just noticed that ec for us has turned into, the baby pees on the floor. really, thats just the truth. I caught one pee and two poops last week.
We set her on the potty and she gets right back up and walks away, and then pees on the floor, minutes, seconds, after getting off the potty. she starts to poop and then turns stiff as a board and will not set on the potty. ect.
what do we do? She only wears diapers when we go out, or when she's peed/pooped x number of times on the floor today and i just cant clean up another mess.
im not angry or frustrated with her, or wanting to quit.. i just feel like we've gotten off track somewhere, and im seeing no cues and i have a 1yr old who wont sit on the potty. We have three differnt potties, and a seat for the big potty. nothing.

help?
Did you start EC at birth? Do you or did you use diapers at times? How does the nighttime go?
I have two EC girls. It was completely different experiences. dd1 was giving signals and never pooped anywhere but a potty after going diaperless at 4 mo. We did have some pee misses though. I kept her in underwear and pants during that time frame (around the 12 mo phase). She was so busy walking and exploring and playing, she often didn't get to a potty or give signals in time around then. I also had a period of time that she did not want to use BBLP or big potty with insert, or insert on its stand alone child training potty. I would put her standing in tub in spare bathroom and run warm water around her feet. It worked every time.
dd2 was different. She never really signalled until recently. She was never consistent about getting to a potty in time on her own, until recently. I cleaned up pee after pee. She also gave virtually no warning on when she was going to poop, so those ended up wherever too. I am a super attentive mother. I am in the same room with dd2, paying attention without being obvious, all the time. So I noticed the way she would tense her face right before pooping. Then whenever I saw her tense that way, I was running over with BBLP, or asking if she needed to go to the big potty to poop (using the insert of course for her comfort). Now she always poops in a potty. She went from never doing it to doing it everytime. She is also consistently taking herself to the BBLP for pees too. We have only had 3 pee misses in a little over a month. 2 times it was because I didn't have her BBLP in the room, and the other time she was sitting on the bed beside me, one of the very first times she had seen a movie ("Curious Buddies- Let's Move") and she was just so excited, she leaked. She hit me and said mama mama until I realized I needed to get her on the potty. It was funny, but she was not going to take her eyes from the screen. She has been dry at night for prob at least 2 months also.
So dd2 peed and pooped at will. I had gone diaperless with her at 12 mo. I had used diapers longer with her because it seemed she didn't catch on as quick as sissy.. Well they weren't really diapers actually, I just used a prefold and a pair of underwear. It worked to catch the pee. At night I had resorted to disposables in different periods (we ended up buying 5 boxes of diapers overall for dd2, which tears me up. I only bought 1 big box of diapers for dd1 and a small one). I used the disposables at night because I was tired, and old. And she wasn't into using the potty every two hours in the night. well many reasons, but that's another post. I know disposables are bad and I never want to have them in my life again.
So I went from having a baby that pooped and peed all over the floors and at night peeing... to catching 99.9% (24 hrs a day) almost overnight (she is 18 mo now, dry since 17 mo). I don't know if it was the sposies or just having her in diapers longer in general, or if it is her brain and how it works that led to the constant messes and no signals...
I say if it is bothering you, just put some of the gerber training pants on, or a pair of undies with a prefold in it. As long as the baby knows what peeing is, and what it is to go in potty, and they were introduced to that before using a diaper as a toilet, the breakthrough will come one day. I also always remember that it is our modern society that makes this difficult, or seems so. The types of flooring we have is the only reason it is a 'bad' thing for the baby to pee and poop places besides the potty. If we still lived with the land, and had dirt floors, it would be no big deal at all. New dirt would cover it, or we would scoop out the wet or soiled dirt and throw it outside, putting down new sand... But even more that that, in that type of optimal living, where there are no cribs or playpens or doors, the child learns to go out of the hut very early... so really it is the types of homes we live in that make EC a different thing here. I bet if the door was open the child would elect to go outside to eliminate, but I did not get to test that since it is still cold here even now in June... oh also as a disclaimer, we rarely go anywhere. I know if you take your children to stimulating environments like playgroups and parks you are more likely to have misses since they get very involved in the play there and forget to disengage and find a potty to eliminate in.

Back to the OP, let your child maintain the control, she may be resisting because she is learning she has her own body. Just keep having the choice of using a potty available and let her choose her bottoms too I would say. Maybe giving her a choice between an AIO, gerber training pants, panties and pants, or nakey butt. If you started EC at birth or soon after, she will get back to it soon. We just knew that we would replace the carpet after hte children were older anyway since they spill juice and stuff too. Also we are on slab and have a small bissell carpet cleaner. I use vinegar and borax as needed with a vinegar solution in the bissell

oh I made this too long. hth
post #8 of 10
yup. my son does this every time he goes through some kind of developmental change or gets a new awesome toy to explore (his balance bike, for instance).
post #9 of 10
My daughter did this for a month, and then one day it just seemed to click. She would not stay on the potty at all constantly peeing and pooing on the floor, I didn't know what to do, so I just left it. For poops I started putting just underwear on her as that keeps the poop off the floor, but I needed a ton of underwear as she rarely made it to the potty for pees for this time. Lo and behold she one day woke up and I now consider her a full graduate! I don't remember the last time we had a miss, and she's started going on other people's big toilets, even if I don't have the insert with me, so we are now in underwear full time.

Good luck!
post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
wow ladies. THANK YOU for all the encouragement. It seems too that since i last wrote i have noticed a few signs and cues from her, and have caught a few poos and pees. i noticed that she picked up a disposable diaper from one of the kids i was babysitting and brought it to me and was messing with it, and I thought she was just playing, but she was trying to tell me that she was about to poop! Which she then did, all over the floor and a little bit in the potty ( i felt like i about tackled her with it!)
ive also noticed that shes often has a pee just after seeing me pee in the bathroom, so i think you guys are right on about her making the association and just not quite getting there.
Picked up a bunch of undies and a couple training pants from the thrift store today, we'll give that a go.

and to answer a previous poster- we have done ec off and on from birth, favoring lots and lots of nakey time, but there have been a couple stretches where she's been in full time diapers for a while at a time.

keep up the encouragment! it means so much to have a tiny pocket of faith and trust in what we're doing, even when we dont trust it!
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