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WWYD - need to make decision about where to put 3 year old

post #1 of 10
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My dilemma is whether to move my 3 year old somewhere more academic (and closer to home, which is more convenient). Or should I just let him stay where he is and have fun, stay with his friends, etc. even though he's not learning much. I work full time so I need full time care.

My 3 year old is very bright and has always seemed like an older child in a younger child’s body. From birth he was very focused, attentive and observant always intensely watching everything. He was verbal VERY early on, and already displays many signs of giftedness. His first word was at 10 months. By 14 months he had about 10 words, and actively communicated with baby sign language. By 16 months, he could talk in sentences about what he wanted, what you were doing, ask questions etc. He’s also very “quick” mentally, understands complicated concepts, doesn’t miss a thing, and has an amazing memory. He just turned 3 and knows his letters and sounds, can count to 20, has known his shapes and colours since age 2 etc.. However, he doesn’t have a long attention span to sit still and do work books, or any kind of educational activities or games.

My older son was similar, but loved to sit and do flashcards, phonics games and work books. He knew all his letters and sounds by age 2 and was reading by age 3. He was also able to do addition and subtraction at age 3. My older son started in a Montessori preschool at age 3 (with half-day Montessori until age 4). At age 4 he went to full days Montessori, and at age 5 did alternate full days in Montessori, (the other days in Public school).

We’ve been very happy with how much my older son excelled in the Montessori program. He was able to have lots of 1:1 attention and could learn at his own pace (his reading was up to about a grade 3 level by the time he finished the Casa program, he’s doing long division in to the thousands, etc.). He starts French Immersion in grade one in public school in the fall. What we were NOT happy about with the Montessori school, was how rigid they were with the kids. They “had to” finish their printing, math, metal insets and projects (i.e. geography, etc.) before they could do any other Montessori activity. They only went outside for ½ hour once a day. They used time-outs excessively and were very strict (my son actually got sent to the office once for “looking up from his work”).

Back to my 3 year old. We had planned to have him attend the same Montessori school that my older son did, but we just moved and the location won’t work anymore – and I’ve had reservations about their strictness. In our new town, there is only one “real” Montessori school and it is run by the same school as the one my older son attended, so I’m concerned about the strictness again. There is an option for another private school with small classes, and it is quite academic, but it’s not Montessori and although it gets “rave reviews” around town, I find the Principal who runs the place quite ditzy when I talk to her on the phone.

Right now he’s at a small daycare centre that we are fairly happy with and where he has lots of friends. However, there is very little academic programming. The teachers are very caring, but they don't always model or teach the things we want taught, and that we've seen taught in Montessori, (respecting each other's work, manners, etc.). He likes going most days and they do lots of fun stuff, cooking, sensory stuff, lots of play time outside, art, dance, music…basically it’s “fun” but not academic. There's no reading or math etc. and the teachers are just not the "quality" I've seen at the private schools (b/c it's just a daycare centre).

He will start Kindergarten next fall (in a year) alternate days at public school, and the Montessori and private schools don’t offer alternate days, so I’m basically trying to decide whether to:

i) leave him where he is, let him have fun and stay with his friends, he can learn what he needs to learn in public kindergarten and join the public school next year on alternate days, or
ii) move him somewhere academic (and if so, which place) since he seems like he could learn a whole lot in the right environment, but knowing it will likely be for the next 3 years until he starts grade one.

Should I be making the most of his "brightness" and putting him somewhere he can learn even though he'd move away from his friends, and may be more strict with less "fun" stuff.

Any thoughts or advice are much appreciated.
post #2 of 10
I'd go with
1. Convenience to the family. Cost, location, etc.
2. Nurturing environment. How well is his spirit being looked after.
then
3. Learning.

He's got plenty of time to learn but this is his only childhood, he should be making the most of fun times right now. I have a couple of bright children and one is in Montessori and the other will be in play based preschool, just based on their needs and personalities. They learn new things no matter what, I just want to make sure that their memories of their childhoods are wonderful.
post #3 of 10
Academic preschools aren't always the best fit for fast learners. We have two gifted kids. We knew they'd be bored in an academic preschool where they knew pretty much knew the curriculum at 2. Instead, we opted for developmental preschools that focused on experiences. My kids raised silkworms, they learned how to differentiate between male and female lobsters, they ran their hands through flax seed, they did messy projects that often didn't look like anything but were fun to make, they took nature walks, they spent lots of time outside, they sang funny songs, they did puppet shows, ect. They never came home with handwriting practice and yet they still managed to start kindie years advanced. Best yet, they loved school. They trusted teachers. They knew how to handle themselves with their peers.

Me, I wouldn't stress about the lack of academics at all. Your child IS learning... 3-year-olds are programmed to learn in any enviroment even if it doesn't seem as tangible as the "ABC's." Not taking geography in preschool will in no way stunt his potentiol. I would be more concerned with the other things you mentioned lacking like not teaching manners, how to appreciate others work, ect. To me, that is the whole point of preschool.

That said, you also mentioned that you needed daycare and that can change things. If these people are kind and warm, they may be exactly who you want your child to have when they bump their head, get frustrated when they can't make the tower as tall as they want or get tired and want to snuggle middle of the afternoon. I guess you have to decide what YOU would be doing with your child if you were home and find someone similar. Would you offer him a strict routine with academic focus or would you be cooking, curling up with a book, playing at the park, ect.
post #4 of 10
All the research suggests that play-based preschool environments are best for kids - that's true for kids who are academically inclined as well as those who aren't. Children this age learn through play, observation and trying.

The more experiences he has, the better he'll be able to connect what he's learning in a book to something meaningful. There is more than 60 years of research showing that the connection to meaningful context is what promotes learning and retention.

Try reading: Einstein Never Used Flashcards. (Or for a more academic approach: Play = Learning.) Most 'academic' preschools are that way not because they're supported by the research, but because they're playing into the 'fears' of parents that children need academics early, lest they 'fall behind'.

FWIW, I have a child who just finished K at a 'play-based' school. She's reading at a 3rd grade level. There was no focus on literacy at all until K. They did play games, they did have materials available, they did have kids dictate stories, they read a lot to the kids. But mostly, she played. And she still learned to read at home. She's the kind of kid who loves doing worksheets, and 'school work'. She would have been fine at an academic preschool. I chose deliberately to keep her in a play-based environment because I knew the focus on book learning would come soon enough.
post #5 of 10
Go with play-based. You can always do "academic" stuff at home on the side, if you felt the need. I think they should have fun and be kids. If he's really bright, he will "learn" (he's learning all the time anyway, in a quality play-based program) all the academic stuff in kindy really fast anyway. He will show interest when he is ready (He may be ready in intellectual aspect, but not in developmental aspect, if that makes sense).
post #6 of 10
If he's happy, I'd stick to what he likes. We love our Montessori, but we love it because we love it, if you know what I mean. I think you'll know if it's not working and that will be the point at which to make a change.

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post #7 of 10
Moving to a new school is a big change for a little one. If he's having a successful, positive experience at his current school, I wouldn't change a thing. The fewer changes the better.
I also agree with the pps. At 3, he will learn through play - there's no need to stress academics quite yet.
post #8 of 10
it sounds like he picks up acedemics so fast, that even an acedemic place wouldn't fit his speed.

we picked developmental schools too, with lots of hands-on building, expirimenting, gardening, and group projects.
post #9 of 10
Someone posted this in the homeschooling section. It really spoke to me, and I am now totally backing off with the academic stuff with my kids. The more I read about learning, the brain, etc., the more I think that play-based preschool programs (school and home), learning through experiences and Montessori activities are the way to go.
http://www.lilipoh.com/articles/2007..._children.aspx
post #10 of 10
I would visit the new Montessori school. Just because it's owned by the same people doesn't mean that they will necessarily be as strict. If they are, personally, I would stay away from it and send your second DS to a play-based program instead.
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