40+ TTC Summer of Love Thread - Page 2

[WaturMama]

Hi carfreemama! We posted at the same time! I'm glad to see you here. It seems like AF came back fast for you and that seems very positive by my interpretation. Sorry you have had a horrible past couple weeks. I hope the meds help bring back balance for you soon.

[earthlymama]

Hey all, I just saw this thread and thought I'd like to join in on the summer fun! I'm 42 years old and recently decided to give getting pg one more go.

I have an 11 year old son(1999), who would soooo love to be a big brother! I lost a baby in 2002. It was quite an ordeal where I almost died at the same time. After that, fear prevented me from trying again. Although, I understand what happened and why it happened.

I take much better care of myself now, my diet is really good, I use progesterone cream. I just had a complete physical and everything is looking good.

I'm planning on natural homebirth and for the most part, leaving traditional medicine out of it. I'm using positive affirmations and a really healthy diet and lifestyle as my means of getting pg.

If it's meant to be, it will happen! If not, I'm ok with that too. My son already has names picked out, he's absolutely certain it will happen, so I focus on his positive attitude and really start to believe it myself!

[Kristin0105]

Sara, thanks for stopping in I was just wondering about you the other day. Georgia is a cutie! Can't believe she is holding her head up and flipped over already. So sorry about the test results, hopefully they were wrong. I agree with Watrumama. I think it's okay to talk about the routes we take to our babies. It's important information and there are whole treads on IVF etc...

Welcome earthlymama

[fuller2]

Here are some articles on the "old" ovaries growing new eggs discovery in 2009. Apparently they've proved it only in mice, but hey, we're all mammals, right? (This reminds me of all the new discoveries showing that the dogma that you can't grow new brain cells is ALSO not true!)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...041200967.html

Quote:
"If you are looking to disprove that females cannot make new eggs, this paper proves it. It's a really significant paper," said Jonathan L. Tilly, a professor of obstetrics, gynecology and reproductive biology at Harvard Medical School who published some of the most controversial research suggesting that women remain capable of producing new eggs. "This is the smoking gun."

More:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80...fertile-women/


more:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...treatment.html
quote: "The dogma that women are born with a finite number of eggs may soon be overturned. Stem cells have been discovered in the ovaries of adult mice that seem to give rise to new eggs and healthy offspring.

"If these findings are confirmed, it could revolutionise female reproduction – opening the door for women to put off child-rearing almost indefinitely, and providing a new source of eggs for women who have been rendered infertile."

and even more:
http://www.the-scientist.com/blog/display/55612/


Another report showing they've done it with human cells, outside the body (different approach - no pregnancies or fertilization, just showed that new eggs can be grown - they say it would be good for cancer patients)
http://www.nih.gov/news/health/jul2009/nichd-14.htm

[WaturMama]

Welcome earthlymama!! So sweet that your 11 yo ds loves the idea of being a big brother so much. May his vision and you wish come true soon.

Fuller2, thank you very much for the links.

[mentalgiant]

HI everyone...

I need some reassuring or encouragement and this is the first place I thought I would post. I am pregnant. WE had taken a break from "trying" and then in June after one night of pity sex for my husband we ended up pregnant. My last period was May 24th. I truly beleive whatever is meant to be will be and thought maybe this is meant to be because we were not trying. I finally took a prengnacy test yesteray and it was a quick and strong positive. Called the doctor and they are going to do a phone chat with the nurse next week and a meeting with my dr the following week. This pregnancy is following two pretty bad miscarriages so you know that is in the back of my mind. All along my breasts have been sore and I have had some nausea during the day. Well last night I woke up, felt my breasts which were not sore, and told myself I miscarried. Today I can not get the fear out of my mind. My breasts are tender but this fear is taking over ...especially since both times I was tol the baby stopped growing at 6 weeks and that is where I am at. So I sit here and tell myself it is intuition and then the "social worker" in me says I am just beleiving it to protect myself from the hurt if it is the case... I have had nausea this am but do not know if it is psychosymatic (sp?) I have been online reading up on sore ness of breasts diappearing and if it is a sign of soemthing and every reputable website says no that these symptoms will fluctuate as my hormones do....so ladies any tips on how not yo be my own worse enemy during this time? Anyone experience symptoms coming and going?

Thanks....hope everyone is enjoying this wonderful Saturday!!!

[WaturMama]

Mentalgiant, first of all congratulations on your BFP!! . It sure does sound like a little one really wants to be with you, with that "one time wonder!"

On one hand, I share the experience of having fluctuating symptoms and it makes a lot of sense that you would worry especially at 6 weeks. On the other hand, I had an intuition things were not going well at the time the little one stopped growing during both my pregnancies that went past 5 weeks but ended in m/c--so I take those intuitions seriously. I think you are wise to notice it all.

My thought is to take your concern seriously as a piece of information to follow up on. Is it possible to get an ultrasound? I think you are getting to the time when they should be able to see a heartbeat and that would put your mind at rest.

Sending lots of good wishes for a sticky bean.

[Kristin0105]

Mentalgiant Congratulations. And I hear your fear and pain. It is scary especially when you have a history of m/c. I generally think we should listen to our intuition but I also know that when it's anxiety related it is not always accurate.

Can you go get a HCG check? If you don't want to wait for your doc. use an online lab service. I plan on using use prepaidlab.com to arrange for my next lab tests. There are several other companies most seem to use labcorp. The HCG may help put your mind at ease.

I hope the outcome is the one you are hoping for. You are in my thoughts.

[contactmaya]

Congratulations Mentalgiant!!

Fuller, i loved those articles you posted, thankyou so much.

So what does it mean for us? Although there are naysayers, i dont see any reason why the mouse experiement wouldnt also apply to humans. Would they have to culture the eggs in a petri dish like ivf or could you have the eggs stem cells planted internally? Would you then be at risk for producing multiple eggs?

I wonder how long it will take for this to arrive on the market.

Maybe us gals on this list will be able to have our own baby in our late 40's early 50's, so whats the rush now? (i want my kids close in age, thats the main issue for me right now)

I spoke to a doctor and the lab doing the iui's (previously i was just doing plain old vaginal insemination) They both told me im fertile and should be ok . I said ' but im 43!' 'So what?' they both said.
Anyway, whether what they are saying is true or not, it did lift my mood. The doc was an angel actually.
Maya
Maya

[LitMama]

Congratulations, BuzzerBeater and welcome, Georgia! She is beautiful! I hope all goes well with the additional testing

Mentalgiant, congratulations on your BFP!!! I think it's very natural that you might feel concern given the past m/c's. I hope that you can get more information, either via bloodwork or ultrasound, to give you more clarity and hopefully comfort! When pg with my dd, I did have fluctuating symptoms. I remember distinctly that my various boob sensations (tingles, prickles, soreness) fluctuated the most. I also remember not really feeling pg when I went in for my 8-week u/s.

Welcome, EarthlyMama! It sounds like you have been through a lot... I think you'll find this group very welcoming and supportive. It's wonderful that your older 11yo is cheering you on!

Carfreemama, sorry the past two weeks have been tough! sending you restorative wishes

Nice to see you back here, BHappy and Gerlassie!

BHappy, I've had ff change my crosshairs a few times, and as others have said, I often disagree! I notice that ff is only taking a few data points into account (temp, cm, opk results) while we ourselves have much more information that never appears on our charts. I have very strong O-pains, for example, that give me a few days' advance notice that I'm going to O. I bet your detox/cleanse could also affect your hormones?

Gerlassie, glad B-complex is working so well for you. I started taking it this cycle, too. I'll let you know if it balances my cycle (which ranges from 21 to 30 days).

Kristin, it sounds like you're in a really great place with exercise and nutrition, how wonderful! Also glad the royal bee jelly seems to be doing good things for you.

Kristin and fuller2, thank you for the info on egg production! Exciting!

[WaturMama]

AF came today. Not too disappointing since we didn't have a good try this month, and maybe good to wait 1 cycle after the m/c. I had a 13 day luteal phase. I'd like it better a little longer, but I'm just fine with that. So here I am CD1 ready for a cycle where we will go for really bringing another little one to our family.

Maya--so glad you have a doctor you like so much--and I love that positive attitude.

[Kristin0105]

Waturmama I know AF showing is disappointing but I think a nice 13 day luteal phase one month after a m/c is pretty darn good. It took me months and months last year to get back to normal after my m/c. Sending you good vibes for this month.

[music.mama.pdx]

Thrilled to have found all of you

I'm 44, and in a relationship w a wonderful man who is slightly younger than me. My children are 16 and 20. Now, much to my amazement, I am thinking about getting pregnant after all these years. He has no kids, but really wants a family. At first I thought it was unrealistic, I was too old, right? However, it seems after doing a lot of online reading that it's still very much a possibility.

I have a super regular cycle, still ovulate and feel optimistic about my chances to conceive. Reading all the posts here definitely give me a feeling of hope and excitement!

Does anyone a good source for positive information about later in life pregnancy? He's very much into the idea, but worries a great deal about whether or not things will be "okay".

So glad to have found you all
(have been reading Mothering since my son was born in 89!)

[WaturMama]

Welcome music.mama.pdx! I'm surprising myself that I don't have a good answer for that source, though I have heard and know many positive things. Maybe it will come to me later or someone will show up soon with a good answer. Good wishes on your TTC journey. The regular cycle and knowing you ovulate, which also sounds like you know your cycle, all sound positive to me.

Kristin thank you for that positive perspective about my cycle. That was a good and happy reality check for me.

[Buzzer Beater]

Welcome music.mama.pdx!
You and I are in similar positions. My DH (my second) had never had children, and I have a beautiful 19yo DD. I thought I was done with kids a loooooong time ago, but when we started looking into adoption and foster care I got the baby bug big time. I didn't end up getting pg on my own, but loved my pregnancy and love my new family dynamic. Big DD loves little DD to pieces, and my DH is on cloud nine.
I wish you all the best, all the baby dust in the world.
Sara

[Kristin0105]

Welcome music.mama. Hopefully, your stay here will not be very long. I know someone here will have all sorts of statistics that will show our actual risk of having a child with downs or other chromosomal anomaly while statistically much higher than it would be if we were 25 instead of approaching 45 (yikes) is actually pretty low in the grand scheme of things. My mother was 40 when I was born and by my calculations both my grand mothers must have had their last child around age 45. My old neighbor in NY mentioned that he and his wife were both close to 50 when their final child was born. I am hoping I can continue the trend in my family.

Waturmama glad to help out with the reality check. When I think too hard about last year I feel like more than 6 months were lost between the pregnancy and the crazy hormones that ensued after the m/c. It really took me a long time to get back to normal.

I am doing pretty well this month. Although, if my ovulation date was correct I only had an 11 day luteal phase this month. I started spotting yesterday and my temp dropped today. But I feel super. I think I have my supplements right what I need. I have good energy, good sleep, good mood. I have been swimming laps for an hour a day for the past 4 weeks. I have only lost about 7 pounds but I am good with that. As I have worked out much harder and longer since my dd was born and this is the first time I lost even a single pound. I think the royal jelly is helping with energy. And I wonder if the iodine in the sea veggies are helping get my endocrine system back on track. I have also been practicing inversion every morning and I find it super relaxing, I love it. I have had the inversion table for a year and have only played around with using it but now I am hooked.

I know this is a goofy question but where do you draw the line between spotting and calling it light flow? I seem to have 2 days of spotting each cycle and sometimes I feel like it's really more like a light flow but not sure what to call it. I need to figure it out because I want to do my CD3 tests soon and need to make sure I go on my actual CD3 or 2 and not CD4.

[Kristin0105]

Just dragging us off page two.

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[WaturMama]

Kristin, I'm glad you are feeling so well. Yay! I don't think a luteal phase is over until your flow starts, so many your lp is a little longer? And even 11 is in the "okay" range isn't it? (though I know it always feels good to have it longer).

I call it flow if it has bright red blood. Maybe ask the doctor's office that is ordering the test for you what they think.

[Kristin0105]

Hi Waturmama. My acupuncturist says count the first day of flow not spotting. But my question is always where do I draw the line between calling it spotting and flow. I would prefer to go early than day 4.

I am actually ordering the tests myself and not going through a doctors office. It is soooo much cheaper if I order them myself than if I go through the doctor's office. Oh, and it's the same lab that draws the blood. Go figure.

[contactmaya]

Hi everyone, just wanted to update my situation. This cycle i took soy isoflavones on days 3-7, 75-100mg.

I usually O on day 13/14. Those days are long gone now. That was a whole 5 days ago. Not only have i not O'd, i have no cm whatsoever, in fact, i am dryer, than i recall in my whole lifetime. usually i get 3-4 days of good cm, that allows me to predict with relative accuracy when i will O.
I did read that soy can delay or even suppress O in women who already O normally. So i knew there was a risk.

I suppose i will either eventually O, or not at all, i dunno....im trying just to be patient and not worry. Maybe ill just get a really light anovulatory period (soon i hope), or i will O very heavily and painfully, in a few days time. I wish i knew how to find out more!

Kristin, i count cd1 as the first day of red flow, even if most of the day it was brown, and then the evening its red. Not sure if that helps you.

Maya