Charting to Avoid/Fertility Awareness - July 2010 - Page 3

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by lovebeingamomma

I'm sorry I didn't post in a clear way. So I mean 97.0 was the temp on the day I ovulated, I've been having consistent 28 day cycles so the 97.0 (on day 15) then spiking to 97.4 I assumed ovulation. Then my next temps were: 97.4, 97.4, 97.5, 97.5, 97.5, 97.7. And can I be honest...I've never drawn a coverline!! I didn't even know what this was until I've been reading your posts! So my coverline would then be like 97.2, but I know I ovulated on day 15 (with the 97.0 temp), because I have confirmed it with cervical position/firmness as well. Sorry this is so long I don't know all the abbreviations and obviously don't know as much as I should about how to chart. I just had never experiences such low temps after ovulation so I was curious.

CF and CP cannot confirm O. It only tells you when you are potentially fertile and when you aren't. A spiking temp doesn't necessarily indicate O, either. You need to know the 6 temps before and including the 97.0 on cd15. Then you draw the CL 0.1 degree above the highest of those 6 temps. If the next 3 temps after cd15 are above the CL, then you can confirm O. However, if they are not, you can't confirm O for cd15. It sounds to me like maybe you didn't O until maybe the day before the 97.7 temp but you can only confirm that after you have 2 more temps that high like that. Does that make sense?

Can you give us the 6 temps for the days before cd15?

[jeninejessica]

Yeah ^^^ Essentially your six previous temps have to be 96.9 or lower for you to confirm o on CD15.

I'm curious if you don't know how to draw a coverline, how you've been charting for so many years. Can you explain to me how you've been doing it?

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by jeninejessica

Yeah ^^^ Essentially your six previous temps have to be 96.9 or lower for you to confirm o on CD15.

Actually, the 6 temps before and including the 97.0 temp on cd15 have to be below 97.3 since the lowest temp she had after that was 97.4. They could be lower but they can't be at or above 97.3 for her to confirm O based on the temps she had afterward.

[jeninejessica]

Oh sorry, that's true. I just woke up. Can you tell

[lovebeingamomma]

Alright so the way I've always charted is my temps pre O are always the same 96.9-97.1, I don't have written down the exact temps pre-O because it's always similar so I don't pay much attention. The reason I've never drawn a coverline is because I've never had much doubt that I ovulated, I'd have low temps, then high temps, and I'd just take the low temp before the spike and say that's ovulation day. And I'm always right (confirmed by AF). Also, cervical signs for me have always been spot on too, cervix is soft on ovulation day, so when I get a spike I check my cervix and if it's firm that I conclude that I did indeed ovulate. And so far I've always been right. Sooo I guess I just do lazy charting, cm has never been able to tell me anything because I never really get a distinct EWCM, but the other two things have been consistent. So even though my temping doesn't fall within the "rules", just you wait I'll tell you on the 10th if I get AF! lol. Thanks for all the feedback. Or I'll tell you on the 10th if I got myself knocked up instead and then you can all laugh at me

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by lovebeingamomma

Alright so the way I've always charted is my temps pre O are always the same 96.9-97.1, I don't have written down the exact temps pre-O because it's always similar so I don't pay much attention.

If you really want to know for sure, you need to pay attention to those pre-O temps and draw a CL.

Originally Posted by lovebeingamomma

Sooo I guess I just do lazy charting, cm has never been able to tell me anything because I never really get a distinct EWCM, but the other two things have been consistent. So even though my temping doesn't fall within the "rules", just you wait I'll tell you on the 10th if I get AF! lol. Thanks for all the feedback. Or I'll tell you on the 10th if I got myself knocked up instead and then you can all laugh at me

If you're not that concerned and are fine with how things have been working, that's fine, too. Just realize you are taking a slightly increased risk of getting pg. "Lazy" charting is fine if you don't mind the slightly added risk. I do shortcut charting, myself. I don't usually start temping until I get EWCF and quit at 3-4dpo.

[lovebeingamomma]

thanks. I will start drawing the coverline now that I understand what that's all about.

[Smylingeyz]

Random weird question... can a consistently ridiculously high sex drive have anything to do with a hormonal imbalance? Just curious. I have endometriosis and wondered if the excess estrogen or whatever could be what's causing that too... or if I just have the luck/curse of being one of those rare women

[bbrandonsmom]

Hey ladies. Happy 4th if you are from the US

Well, the 2 good outcomes of having my long cycle last month-1 less af for the year, and oddly enough, instead of my first day being super heavy, clots and painful-I had a some what heavy/medium flow, only 2 clots and not super painful. The next day was med/light and the next few were lt/spotting. Normally I have to stay home that first day I have such a heavy bleed, but not this time.

[Baby_Cakes]

Happy 4th!

So, it seems like AF is going to be short, painful, and heavy. CD4 and it's already pretty much over. Hurray! There's just nothing fun about AF.

Not sure what DH and I are doing this month in terms of whatevering or completely avoiding. Not sure I care! I don't know, I'm over the drama, I just want a baby soon. As long as somehow, someway I'm at least somewhat pg by the holiday season, i'll be happy.

[Smylingeyz]

I finally got a high temp:
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2ab1c6
I know I need more to confirm O but I've been surprised it's taking so long to rise. Based on how long it's taken, I think I can stop worrying about getting pregnant this month. Whew.Weird though, that I got spotting three days in a row starting last Tuesday, and didn't get a temp rise till a few days after all my O signs had disappeared and my CF was totally gone. I bet I actually O'ed a few days ago.

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by Smylingeyz

I finally got a high temp:
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2ab1c6
I know I need more to confirm O but I've been surprised it's taking so long to rise. Based on how long it's taken, I think I can stop worrying about getting pregnant this month. Whew.Weird though, that I got spotting three days in a row starting last Tuesday, and didn't get a temp rise till a few days after all my O signs had disappeared and my CF was totally gone. I bet I actually O'ed a few days ago.

Whew! Hopefully, it will stay up. It is possible that you Oed a few days before your temp rise since the thermal shift is only accurate to within 3 days of O.

[lovebeingamomma]

how do I show you guys my fertility friend chart? copy and paste link when I'm on the page??

[Toolip]

you have to go to homepage setup (on the left side) then post the link to your homepage.


Does anyone have the CVS thermometer? I'm thinking about getting it because my BD isn't working out so great. I temp vaginally and there is a grove in the back that I can't clean. My Vicks thermometer was smooth and easy to clean but it's not working so I need a new one.

[MarineWife]

Here I am up in the middle of the night again. I can't sleep. I don't even really feel tired. I think this happens to me often during my lp. Ugh!

[annie2186]

Originally Posted by MarineWife

Here I am up in the middle of the night again. I can't sleep. I don't even really feel tired. I think this happens to me often during my lp. Ugh!

ME TOO!!!!! drives me batty

[annie2186]

Although I am pretty sure I read somewhere that the increase in progesterone during your LP actually makes this common for a lot of women........they said you can "use this time to accomplish more things at night"

Obviously they don't know me

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by annie2186

Although I am pretty sure I read somewhere that the increase in progesterone during your LP actually makes this common for a lot of women........they said you can "use this time to accomplish more things at night"

Obviously they don't know me

Really? I hadn't read that but it's good to know. I'm watching mindless TV and knitting. It is nice to get some quiet time to myself but I'll pay the price tomorrow. I probably should be cleaning (like that would ever happen).

Could be nerves, too. My dh is due home in 4 days and my 19yo ds just got home from VA with his new car.

[jeninejessica]

I'm watching Bachelorette. Does that mean I'm supposed to be doing the dishes instead?

[MarineWife]

Ok, I'll share a couple of nice things that happened recently. I've been debating whether or not to share the one with my dh. It's kind of personal but it's sweet.

I texted my dh tonight and asked if he'd be too tired to dtd when he got home after driving for 2 days straight. He said, "H3ll NO!" Then I said I could dose myself up on a bunch of ibuprofen because I get awful cramps during my lp and they get worse with dtd. He said that he didn't want me to be in pain. I told him that would mean waiting another week for to come and go since she's supposed to show up the day after he gets home. He said that he's waited 6 1/2 months, he can wait another week to avoid me being in pain.

The other thing is something my 6.5yo ds said to me the other day. My 3yo ds was wanting to nurse. My 6.5yo said that when I have a baby girl little bro will have to stop nursing so the baby can have the milk. Another