*Bitter Sushi Ladies - July*

[jenger]

Welcome to the July thread, ladies!!!!

Most of us are former ttc 6+ month ladies. And at this point, many of us are at or past 12 months, many have had losses, many are dealing with various forms of infertility, and some are just in a waiting period until they can ttc again.

the name? well... We tend to be a little bitter sometimes. So read with care . And due to everything, our emotions run a little raw like sushi. Too many cycles of BFN and CD1 sushi + sake to console ourselves. This ttc business is something that seems to "just happen" for so many... But we just can't get "it" right. So this is where we can "be together", share and express anything.

Some of us have gotten a little quieter lately... There is only so much you can post in the "i want to be pg, but i'm not" category. However we are here in spirit and most likely lurking!

~current bitter sushi ladies~

babygrey 31, ttc#3 with endo, pelvic adhesive disease, chronic pelvic pain, one blocked tube

borobaby TTC#2 for 7 months

belovedk - mama of 2 (15yo ds, 10yo dd). Wife to one incredible man. Residing in central va. TTC someone new since november 2008, m/c 7/09. An avid bellydancer, and firedancer, who works part time doing hair, and who is giving her loving energy nowadays more toward her dh than ttc.

collieflower- TTC # 2 for a year, with 2 m/c (and another before DC#1)

court - ttc #3 (dh's #1) since 08/08, madly in love with dh and my boys and raising our family in the pacific northwest. Tried 2 iui's, decided to try naturally, against all odds, with male factor for awhile, until moving onto ivf in the distant future.

enigo - has one beautiful son, trying to conceive after three losses

fierbugg - ttc #1 for 9 years, losses 8/00, 5/04, and 1/07. Currently on a ttc break, getting life back in order and awaiting hormone testing to help figure out what's going on!

grahnola mum - loving our wonderful family of me, dh and dd (12/07). Ttc #2 since 11/08 with four losses.

GrapesBunch - TTC #1 since August 2008

hsmamato2 - ttc for over 8 months and appreciative of a space to vent out that bitterness!

iheartmyfamily - ttc #1 for 14 months with one

InWaiting - ttc#1 for 14 months, with one ectopic

jenger - Mama to DD Little Bee (4/10) ttc #2 since August 2009

jenniferadurham ttc #3

justkiya - married to my darling dh for 5.5 years, ttc#1 since march 2007, diagnosed with pcos in 06/08, on metformin since, one cp

justhinkn - TTC #2 since summer 2009, just starting IF testing with DH

kalamos23- TTC #2 since May '09 two 06/09 02/10 7/10

kel32brown- kellisue, upstate ny mama, warmly married to farmboy and raising 5 little ones.

Keria- TTC #1 since October 2008.

Kinza- TTC#1 since November 2008, DH with lowish count and Type 1 Diabetes

kparker - waiting to be ready. ttc #1 since 9/08 with male factor, now waiting to start in January with donor sperm!

ladyjools - i'm a 25 year old scottish girl with dh for nearly 6 years and ttc for 5. We lost our baby boy, samson, at 16 weeks in july and are now ttc again.

Laggie - TTC #1 since Fall 2009 with male factor issues

lapis - ttc #1 since August 2008. Living in a new country with a calmer lifestyle and trying not to get sucked into the ttc vacuum.

littlest birds ttc for 10 months after VR

luvmywestie- ttc for 2 years with no clear diagnosis, m/c 10/08.

MahnaMahna- mama to 1 amazing son, ttc #2 for 8 months, natural parenting blogger

mamamerle- ttc #3 after taking 17 months to conceive #2. Hoping the magical clomid/gonal-f/iui combination will work again!

Maurine - Me 31; DH 33; married since 2006, TTC #1 since August 2009 w/ mild PCOS and Morphology 0%...trying a round of clomid and looking into IVF

millefleur- a 34 year old aspiring baby mama in upstate ny. Happily unmarried to dp for 5 years. 9 week m/c 12/08. Ttc again since 6/09.

miriam bat avraham TTC #1 for 18 months, currently seeking treatment for infertility, with no abnormal blood tests so far. Ovulating normally after one year with no ovulation.

mksmith - Megan, TTC after a loss in 04/10.

Mrs.Nap515 - Noelle, TTC#1

nanette56 - wife (29) of 8 years to dh (31) , mother to ds (5), ttc #2 with pcos. One loss february 2010.

rcr - ttc #2 since May 09, but not avoiding since December 07, with a DH that has low sperm count, mobility, volume, and everything else; and lives out of state for work Monday-Friday (but is home every weekend). Me: 36, DH: 38. I am a WOHM and I take care of my mom with stage 5 (sometimes 6) Alzheimer's, which means that she is a lot like my toddler (12/07)

rochelleann- ttc #2 since 2008 with loooong irregular cycles.

simplyrochelle - ttc #1 on and off since 5/2007, m/c at 12 weeks 9/08.

sweetest77 38y/o, ttc#3 since May 09, after VR

Tara2 TTC #4 (#2 for DH) since October 2009, DH with low count

tear78 - 31 year old elementary school teacher. Married to hubby since 2006. Love camping, fishing, reading, and working in the yard at our beautiful new tiny little home. Ttc #1 since may 2008, m/c 12/08 and 2/09. Seeking medical help and trying to remember when hope was strong and healthy.

xtara2003x -Tara, ttc #2 since June 2009, 2 losses in 2010, praying for a 2011 baby.

With us, but no longer trying
mi_dawn - lost baby William (born still 4/09) and two m/c in 09.

recent bfps!
stick little babies, stick, stick, stick....

nanette56 - wife (29) of 8 years to dh (31) , mother to ds (5). One loss february 2010. Due 4/10
Apricot - ttc since 11/08, m/c 4/09 and ectopic 12/09. Due March 2011!
rachwms - due 11/10
finnegansmom - ttc #3 since july 2009, one 3 y/o, one 18 m/o and a recent in december of 09 Due 2/11!
barefootgirl - due 12/10
jessica_s - TTC #2 for 19 months, three angels, due January 2011!
Qbear'smama - TTC#2 for 7 cycles. Due December 2010!!
kellyttc#1 - TTC#1 for almost 3 years! Due December 1st 2010.
yummyyumyummama - ttc #2 since 3/09 Due 11/22/2010!
rhiannon09 - ttc #1 since January 2008, due 6/10 with twins!
pinoikoi - ttc #5 for 6 months, due 6/21/10.
lisko15 - ttc #1 (or #3) for 14 months, due 6/26/10.
colorbywords - ttc #1 for 13 months, due 8/?/10.
lzp - ttc #1 for 17 months, due 8/10/10.
maerynpearl - ttc #3 (or #1) for 6 cycles over 2 years, due 9/14/10.
aidanraynesmom - ttc For 5 cycles over 14 months, due 9/10.
carlyle - ttc #2 for over 12 months, due 10/1/10.
lyndzies - ttc #1 for 10 months, due 10/4/10.

Here is a link to our "graduates" thread!

our happy graduates (from the 6+ thread)

jillc512 - Albert Boaz 5/4/10
Starkyld - Elliott Marlowe 5/24/20
jelinifer - Finnegan born 5/1/10
minsca - seth ~ born 10/20/09 ~ 6 lbs 10 oz
kalishanti - zion merciful ~ born 11/22/09 ~ 7 lbs 11 oz
lauren 31 - Adelynn Ruby 2/10/10



check in with us when you can, ladies!

(please let me know if your first page blurb needs to be updated in anyway. As well, new ladies are welcome, but please join with care.)

[jenger]

I started a new thread... I didn't want us to be tardy...

(I know, who cares?... me, I guess...)

[Tear78]

lol, jenger you're an awesome threadmistress! Thanks!

Apricot, I think it's possible to O up to 48 hours after a positive OPK, isn't it? Could you just be ovulating today? That would go along with that nice low temp. I hope that you get a nice, steady rise starting tomorrow. Now I have to go back and look at your chart again, but with Clomid I think you typically ovulated around day 14. hm....I'm no expert on that though. Good luck!

[Maurine]

Thanks for the new thread, Jenger!

[lapis]

Thanks thanks for your promptness on the new thread Jenger! much appreciated!

[SimplyRochelle]

Thanks jenger!

I've started working out a ton lately and really putting all my efforts into losing weight. When I told my DH this, he said, "ya know, that's how you got pregnant last time." Which is kind of true. I had started a work out program two months before I got pregnant last time, losing almost 20lbs quickly during those two months (which I managed to keep off until the m/c where I am sure I ate my weight in chocolate). I would give anything just to lose 20lbs again. Oh, how I wish that would happen. I don't care anymore about a baby coming at some perfect convenient time (like not in the middle of nursing school). We've decided we won't be trying any more interventions for at least 5 more years which sounds like a nightmare for me but after a long talk, we both know this is for the best. We will not be using birth control at any point during that time and welcome any pregnancies that come our way naturally during that time, but we just don't feel comfortable moving forward medically until we are both totally done with school. It's insane for me to even try and imagine the next 5 years passing by without a pregnancy so I am hoping that it won't come to that, but it's just nice to be on the same page now.

Also, I just watched a show called Pregnant at 70 and I want to scream into a pillow now. I know it was with donor eggs and IVF, but still, come on. The story made me cry though because the lady lived in India (where they were ridiculed and gossiped about constantly) and her and her husband had been praying for a child for 50 years.

[Jane]

Tear, maybe. I'll just keep chugging along.

Thanks for the new thread!

[millefleur]

Thanks for the new thread! My internet is still extremely unreliable, but SUPPOSEDLY they (Fairpoint ) are fixing it this month. If so I am happy to do August or September!

Back later! Kisses!

[rcr]

just dropping back in to say bye-bye BSL. I am leaving for a few weeks, hope to come back and see that there is no more BSL thread and catch up with you all on the former-BSL thread in the pregnancy forum

[Maurine]

OK, ladies. So I am having some cramping at 8 dpo (like twinges, every now and again, deeeep inside). That's a good sign, yes? Dare I be hopeful? With my unusual spotting (never happened before) I almost wonder if I might have a little hope. This would be our last natural cycle before IVF (well, natural with clomid)...
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/29b7ff

[enigo]

Originally Posted by Maurine

OK, ladies. So I am having some cramping at 8 dpo (like twinges, every now and again, deeeep inside). That's a good sign, yes? Dare I be hopeful? With my unusual spotting (never happened before) I almost wonder if I might have a little hope. This would be our last natural cycle before IVF (well, natural with clomid)...
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/29b7ff

Twingy good...me too!! It must be good. I should write it down each cycle. It never seems to warrant being written down, but I can't remember if I have only had it when pregnant or not. They don't have "twingy" (Is there an "e" in there?) listed as a symptom on FF, just cramps.

[MaerynPearl]

i noted it. got what felt like ovulation pain every cycle at 6dpo except this one.

This cycle, at 6dpo, it was more of a poking feeling... like I had something sharp stuck down in there, rather than like something was pulling at my ovaries.

sort of like... when i had tonsils i would sometimes get food stuck behind them and it would poke at me until I got it free (i had large tonsils, i suppose most people would not get this reference but thats what it felt like only down just above my pubic bone)

whereas the usual 6dpo feelings was more like someone had tied a string around my ovaries and was pulling on it... a whole different sort of sensation.

[littlest birds]

I usually get twinges at 7dpo. Usually only on one day.

[Nanette56]

What's new ladies?!?!? I'm so sorry I've been MIA- I turned in my notice yesterday, and have been incredibly busy prepping the new office the last few weeks, so very sorry for not keeping up with everyone I am back though I've been on the Lupron for a little over 10 days now, the mood swings are FINALLY starting to subside. I start my stim injects on Sunday, the egg retrieval is tentatively scheduled for the 17th of July, but it depends on how well I respond. Embie transfer is tentatively scheduled for the 21st! I don't have time to be stressed or even thinking about TTC this month, so I'm hoping that will cause it to work! I'll check back tomorrow and I wanna see some updates on everyone! I'm too lazy to go to the old thread
Oh yeah and

[miriam_bat_avraham]

Thanks for the new thread, Jenger!

Originally Posted by Maurine

OK, ladies. So I am having some cramping at 8 dpo (like twinges, every now and again, deeeep inside). That's a good sign, yes? Dare I be hopeful? With my unusual spotting (never happened before) I almost wonder if I might have a little hope. This would be our last natural cycle before IVF (well, natural with clomid)...
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/29b7ff

Ooh, Maurine, looks like a beautiful implantation dip on 7dpo! for you!

Hum de dum, I'm 2dpo. Has anyone yet invented a game to help the first week of the TWW pass by more quickly??? This is soooo the boring part. I mean, the second half I stress about testing, but at least I can *do* something then!!!

[Keria]

Thanks for the new thread, fresh start for all of us.

Baby dust Nanette.



I'm still waiting for most of my results from cd3 bloodwork, damn lab, so far everything has come back normal including my thyroid which I was wondering, have to get all the results before I make my next apoimment with the RE, I decided to do progesterone this cycle this time 400 mg, so we'll see, we are taking a break next month due to DH traveling out of the country so I'll test progesterone then, My RE wont prescribe me Progesterone until she sees the results from all thel tests including progesterone, but my regular ob did so why not it can't hurt right. Other than that infertility sucks, but life is good in all other aspects.

[littlest birds]

Maurine, I think you should be very optimistic with a dip and spotting and twinges. I am sorry that my last post wasn't encouraging. I have never spotted during LP and I would be over the moon excited if I did. My own twinges let me down by showing up over and over. But really, if you have not noticed them in other cycles while TTC then they are new for you and you should definitely consider them PGish until proven otherwise.

I am 9dpo and I am actually grumpy with everything symptoms-related for my own personal reasons. I love symptoms. I want them to mean everything. I like my round full boobies they are cute even if they are meaningless. I am grateful to be able to have a TWW. But I'm just kinda tired IYKWIM. I am also sad about Tear and about life being not-fair. I ended up feeling like I should stay off here mostly because I didn't have positive enough things to say.

I had a big dip yesterday. I want it to be PG but I think I just messed up taking my temp. I was a little short on sleep (4.5 hours when I temped), it was a little chilly that night, and I started to get up to turn off the alarm before I stopped myself and immediately lay down and temped. That temp was 97.2 but I snuggled under the blankets for almost an hour without moving and took my temp again and it was 96.89 which would be WELL below my coverline. That doesn't even seem right. Would getting up for 3 seconds make your temp lower? Would it even make any difference if you caught yourself and took your temp 3 seconds after that? Anyhow I charted my first temp which is pretty low then I have that other one that's crazy low that I'm not counting. And then of course I am telling myself maybe it means something and maybe not and you won't know until afterwards.

I read that 2/3 of apparent implantation dips on 7 and 8 dpo are indeed implantation, while 1/3 of them are not PG charts. I had a smaller dip last month .

KMFX for you ALL!!!!!

[millefleur]

Originally Posted by SimplyRochelle

I've started working out a ton lately and really putting all my efforts into losing weight. When I told my DH this, he said, "ya know, that's how you got pregnant last time." Which is kind of true. I had started a work out program two months before I got pregnant last time, losing almost 20lbs quickly during those two months (which I managed to keep off until the m/c where I am sure I ate my weight in chocolate). I would give anything just to lose 20lbs again. Oh, how I wish that would happen.

Me too Rochelle! It's time for me to pretend that the ice cream has birth control in it!

Originally Posted by Nanette56

What's new ladies?!?!? I'm so sorry I've been MIA- I turned in my notice yesterday, and have been incredibly busy prepping the new office the last few weeks, so very sorry for not keeping up with everyone I am back though I've been on the Lupron for a little over 10 days now, the mood swings are FINALLY starting to subside. I start my stim injects on Sunday, the egg retrieval is tentatively scheduled for the 17th of July, but it depends on how well I respond. Embie transfer is tentatively scheduled for the 21st! I don't have time to be stressed or even thinking about TTC this month, so I'm hoping that will cause it to work! I'll check back tomorrow and I wanna see some updates on everyone! I'm too lazy to go to the old thread
Oh yeah and

Nanette! I was just thinking about you! It's all so exciting!

AFM: I'm hating on the Clomid. I'm hot and sweaty, migraine-ish, and just feel like crap! I hope it works this month because I don't think I can tolerate another month! And it's only CD9! :yawning

[xtara2003x]

CD 2.

I didn't even cry when AF came this month. Didn't really feel anything (aside from the massive cramping and bloating).

Then today it hit me.

I took DD to an amusement park with a friend of mine's little girl who is 1 year older than DD. EVERYWHERE I looked there were pregnant people. Seriously. Everywhere. Tiny babies. Big round glowing bellies. Beautiful yellow sun dresses covering up beautiful pregnant bellies. I saw women caressing their precious babies inside of them and it tore me in two.

I should be wearing those sun dresses. I should be caressing my baby belly.


I wondered why I was so crabby today. I felt like I kept telling the girls to hurry up and get to the next ride, etc. Then I came home and DH and I had a stupid fight over something so dumb..but here I am sitting here bawling because I just realized what the heck the real issue is.

I think I just need a good soak in the tub and a big session. I'm looking forward to the time in my cycle where I actually feel optimistic.

[Maurine]

Originally Posted by littlest birds

Maurine, I think you should be very optimistic with a dip and spotting and twinges. I am sorry that my last post wasn't encouraging.

Oh you! No need to apologize! I have felt twingy in the past...so who knows? Never spotting though... Oh, and for you!

Nanette56 - ! Nice to see you back. I'm following your IVF journey with bated breath.

xtara2003x . Wish I could hug you in person.