Juicy July Chat in the Allergy Forum - Page 27

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by changingseasons

Ummm.... same neighbors who let their dogs run around and poop in your yard? Yes, I would have a problem with that. What happened to, "hey neighbor, do you mind if I pick some flowers from your yard? Great, thanks!" I'm not ok with people just coming on to my property without asking first.

Those neighbours are gone and their animals were confiscated for neglect.

[FireWithin]

So proud and excited.
Saw craniopath today. This is the third time we've given Sam an adjustment. HCP is really amazed by DS's ability to heal. Already he is seeing changes. Told him we are also using a constitutional remedy, nutritional support and are allergen free. HCP said that we are doing everything right. sigh such a nice thing to hear.
Also, he took some pictures of DS that he will be using at a conference he will be teaching at in New Orleans. He said lots of dentists will be there and he wants to show how in many cases orthodontics is not necessary. A little sad to say that he said DS has very clearly defined . . . .oh I forget the word. but he meant a not fully developed middle part of face. I feel really hopeful.
Again, thank you Chlobo for finding this HCP. It feels so good to be taken care of. We will be starting DS2 next week. Hopefully we will be able to prevent some of the issues that DS1 has.
Chlobo - so cute about your DS. So you were there today? Didn't see you. Our appointment was at 10:45.

Looking forward to hearing about your NAET appointment CS.

[changingseasons]

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

I don't think I'd care if he'd said "Hey. Those are nice flowers. Mind if I pick some?" Honestly, then I'd be like "Sure! There's lots of them." but it would be nice to have some niceties observed, yk?

CS- I'm leaning towards #3, although #1 is a close second.

Yeah, exactly.

#3? The brand new unlicensed midwife?

eta: oops- missed the last page when I posted. That's sad, JR. But hopefully the animals are better off. How exciting m2s!!!!

[ASusan]

Originally Posted by Mammo2Sammo

So proud and excited.
Saw craniopath today. This is the third time we've given Sam an adjustment. HCP is really amazed by DS's ability to heal. Already he is seeing changes. Told him we are also using a constitutional remedy, nutritional support and are allergen free. HCP said that we are doing everything right. sigh such a nice thing to hear.
Also, he took some pictures of DS that he will be using at a conference he will be teaching at in New Orleans. He said lots of dentists will be there and he wants to show how in many cases orthodontics is not necessary. A little sad to say that he said DS has very clearly defined . . . .oh I forget the word. but he meant a not fully developed middle part of face. I feel really hopeful.
Again, thank you Chlobo for finding this HCP. It feels so good to be taken care of. We will be starting DS2 next week. Hopefully we will be able to prevent some of the issues that DS1 has.
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hypoplasia?

[FireWithin]

Originally Posted by ASusan

hypoplasia?

ummm. Now I remember. he used a layman's term. I think it was distortion. Yes, my son has a very clear distortion in his face. Kind of disturbing.

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by changingseasons

Yeah, exactly.

#3? The brand new unlicensed midwife?

eta: oops- missed the last page when I posted. That's sad, JR. But hopefully the animals are better off. How exciting m2s!!!!

Believe it or not, yes. I really don't like any of the choices you've posted about but that's the one who sets off the fewest alarm bells in MY head.

[JaneS]

Kathy,
that's a lot of stress all at once, take your time with your decisions and try not to feel rushed. If I were in your position, I would be doing low dose naltrexone (LDN) therapy.
http://fourfoldhealing.com/articles-by-topic/

Originally Posted by Mammo2Sammo

Again, thank you Chlobo for finding this HCP. It feels so good to be taken care of.

Ditto, we are seeing Dr. Rosen soon too!

Originally Posted by Mammo2Sammo

ummm. Now I remember. he used a layman's term. I think it was distortion. Yes, my son has a very clear distortion in his face. Kind of disturbing.

No kidding. We had an ENT visit at Mass Eye & Ear yesterday to go over DS's xrays taken by the orthodontist. Weston Price's called it a "facial deformity" which is very hard for any parent to hear and I think about it often. We are facing a cross bite (upper palate not big enough) and enlarged adenoids, what are you guys dealing with? I want to try to avoid putting in a palate expander.

[chlobo]

Originally Posted by Mammo2Sammo

So proud and excited.
Saw craniopath today. This is the third time we've given Sam an adjustment. HCP is really amazed by DS's ability to heal. Already he is seeing changes. Told him we are also using a constitutional remedy, nutritional support and are allergen free. HCP said that we are doing everything right. sigh such a nice thing to hear.

That is totally awesome. I'm thinking we are going to need that kind of work for DS if we can figure the other stuff out.

Also, he took some pictures of DS that he will be using at a conference he will be teaching at in New Orleans. He said lots of dentists will be there and he wants to show how in many cases orthodontics is not necessary. A little sad to say that he said DS has very clearly defined . . . .oh I forget the word. but he meant a not fully developed middle part of face. I feel really hopeful.
Again, I think that's us.

Again, thank you Chlobo for finding this HCP. It feels so good to be taken care of. We will be starting DS2 next week. Hopefully we will be able to prevent some of the issues that DS1 has.

I hope you told him I sent you....

Chlobo - so cute about your DS. So you were there today? Didn't see you. Our appointment was at 10:45.
Our appointment was at 9:00am. Due to the vagaries of morning traffic we left at 8:00am and SURPRISE got there shortly after 8:30 so they saw us early and we were out by a little after 9:00am.


Looking forward to hearing about your NAET appointment CS.

Me too!

Originally Posted by JaneS

Ditto, we are seeing Dr. Rosen soon too!

I hope you and M2S told him that I sent you.


No kidding. We had an ENT visit at Mass Eye & Ear yesterday to go over DS's xrays taken by the orthodontist. Weston Price's called it a "facial deformity" which is very hard for any parent to hear and I think about it often. We are facing a cross bite (upper palate not big enough) and enlarged adenoids, what are you guys dealing with? I want to try to avoid putting in a palate expander.

We went to Dr. Rosen initially for the enlarged adenoids. We had almost immediate success in reduction of his swollen gland and we went to weekly appointments. However, his congestion gradually returned, although Dr. Rosen said his glands were not swollen again so he thought it was seasonal allergies. Then he cleared up again and then congested up again.

It was weird because he cleared up both time right after being sick. The first time he had a stomach bug. The second time he had a high fever. So something happens when he gets sick that is actually good for him. Don't ask me what.

That said, DS has a narrow high palate and I think it is entirely likely he will need more focused work on that issue. At the moment we decided to do the allergy testing through Dr. Rosen's office. He uses a liquid form of the substances (I think they are really diluted) and once he settles on what the allergens are he will rx a homeopathic allergy remedy. We were supposed to be doing it today but it somehow didn't get on the schedule so he did half of the testing today and will finish next week and then decide how to proceed.

I also decided to take my DD in. She is 6 and was having trouble with her feet hurting. She pronates horribly. So he has been working on her feet & after 3 weeks she is already running better, straighter. He also said that her brain hasn't settled on a dominant side and he is going to give us some brain exercises to help that function b/c apparently it can interfere with reading because the brain gets tired.

He said she also had a high palate but she seems to have plenty of room for her teeth so I'm not sure she'll need that kind of work. I'm contemplating switching her to a more holistic dentist. SHe's never had x-rays and the holistic dentist uses digital x-rays which are less toxic.

Sorry to be so windy. Does that help at all?

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by chlobo

He also said that her brain hasn't settled on a dominant side and he is going to give us some brain exercises to help that function b/c apparently it can interfere with reading because the brain gets tired.

I'm finding the whole discussion fascinating, and probably useful in a while for both the kids, but can you expand on this part specifically? Because lately I've been concerned about DS, I don't see him choosing a dominant hand. Yesterday, for example, we sat and talked through his math book, and there was a little bit of matching stuff in two columns (we skip everything that's actual writing because he is nowhere near ready to do that), and he just wrote with whichever hand was more convenient. He used both hands several times. So I would love to hear more, or hear how he determined that for your DD.

[changingseasons]

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

Believe it or not, yes. I really don't like any of the choices you've posted about but that's the one who sets off the fewest alarm bells in MY head.

Oh no! What kind of alarm bells?! (Sorry... totally OT, and I would IM you, but I'm still on frickin dial-up so there is no way I'm even opening my yahoo messenger.)

[chlobo]

Quick question about the mind numbing Yasko results,

When she lists multiple B-12 supplements under a mutation does that mean she thinks you need them all? Or just pick and choose?

Also, is there a preferred order to deal with them? I think it would be pretty impossible to take all those supplements at once.

[FireWithin]

So when my in utero baby moves around, she makes a loud clicking noise that I can hear very easily. My guess is her joints are making the noise. I can't remember if it happened with my boys.
Is this normal in the regular world/ it's common so it is normal?
Is it normal in our understanding the health?

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by changingseasons

Oh no! What kind of alarm bells?! (Sorry... totally OT, and I would IM you, but I'm still on frickin dial-up so there is no way I'm even opening my yahoo messenger.)

Well, for #4, the whole "motherly" vibe you described reminds me of the nurses I had while I was in labour with DS1. Basically, it concerns me that she may downright dominate your birth experience.
Which leads me to #1: I would be concerned with her close affiliation with #4.
My other concerns are "most likely" and "might" transfer to hospital with you. I have a HUGE issue, after DS3, with knowing who is going to be there when I deliver a baby. I do NOT want to be uncertain. It seems like each of them is pretty uncertain of that aspect... Really? You don't know who you're bringing into my home? And you're not sure that you'll stay with me?
I will NEVER have an attendant who is going on vacation close to my due date again (assuming I ever have another ). It is INCREDIBLY stressful.

That's basically it but these are issues on which I would feel incapable of compromising:
I need to KNOW who's going to be there.
I need to KNOW that they're actually going to be there (especially if they don't give refunds after a certain point!).
I do NOT want a motherly attendant. I want a friend who will hear my needs and assist me in meeting them.
I need to know who's coming into my house (this isn't just a birth thing).

[changingseasons]

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

Well, for #4, the whole "motherly" vibe you described reminds me of the nurses I had while I was in labour with DS1. Basically, it concerns me that she may downright dominate your birth experience.
Which leads me to #1: I would be concerned with her close affiliation with #4.
My other concerns are "most likely" and "might" transfer to hospital with you. I have a HUGE issue, after DS3, with knowing who is going to be there when I deliver a baby. I do NOT want to be uncertain. It seems like each of them is pretty uncertain of that aspect... Really? You don't know who you're bringing into my home? And you're not sure that you'll stay with me?
I will NEVER have an attendant who is going on vacation close to my due date again (assuming I ever have another ). It is INCREDIBLY stressful.

That's basically it but these are issues on which I would feel incapable of compromising:
I need to KNOW who's going to be there.
I need to KNOW that they're actually going to be there (especially if they don't give refunds after a certain point!).
I do NOT want a motherly attendant. I want a friend who will hear my needs and assist me in meeting them.
I need to know who's coming into my house (this isn't just a birth thing).

Yeah, I totally hear you on all that stuff. And the may or may not transfer is an issue for me as well. The problem is, although HBAC is legal in WA, it is very much underground. If these midwives do show up at a hospital that frowns on home birth (and/or VBAC), they could file a frivolous complaint against the midwife, and the midwife will have to pay tens of thousands of dollars just to go through the mitigation process- even if there are no grounds for the complaint!! So I totally understand their hesitancy. I think the climate is becoming a little more open, but it's still not great around here. And #1 was honest that her coming along (to that one hospital) actually made it a worse experience for the laboring mom- the ob there was really rude to the midwife and actually withheld pain meds for the mom until she consented to a c-section. So as long as we didn't go to that particular hospital, she would come. And I don't want to go to that hospital anyways, because that's where I had my c/s (not that I would necessarily have a choice if it was an emergency situation.) So yeah- with #4, I really like the experience that the "motherly" midwife brings, but I don't like the mothering vibe itself. So I feel confident that #1 has a good background in training with her, but she definitely has a much more laid back demeanor.

[deditus]

Got back from vaca last Sunday. Long 2 weeks, sick kids, sick dog, death in the extended family, made for a rough one. Will never be able to catch up this month I think I will lurk 'til next, just wanted to poke my head in.


Congrats CS!

[lil_miss_understood]

I hear all of that. If you're confident that #1 doesn't bring the mothering vibe with her AND that she would be confident in asserting herself during a birth, not being dominated if #4 were to be the other m/w she brought, then I would go with her. Those were my primary concerns with her which bumped her to second place.

eta: sudden craving for matrimonial (aka date) squares.

eta again: Welcome back, deditus! Sorry it's been so rough. Hoping the coming month is easier.

[tanyalynn]

Deditus, welcome back, and wow, not a restful, relaxing vacation. I hope things return to normal quickly!

As for us, interesting tidbit. DS has been spinning the past few days, and today he didn't. Difference? Only one I can see is that I gave him one of the really high B6 Thorne B-complexes that I have. I think DD is fine/good with just the Perkies, a bit over the RDA in all the B vits, but if that remains the same tomorrow, I'm going to assume DS does better on the high B6 (and higher in other B vits too) version.

Chlobo, your mention of left-right dominance really triggered something in me. DS has been trying to do writing-type activities lately (mazes, beginnings of drawings), he's never tried before because he could only scribble, and the lack of a dominant hand has really been jumping out at me lately. Thank you for the inadvertant push to learn more on this topic.

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by Mammo2Sammo

So when my in utero baby moves around, she makes a loud clicking noise that I can hear very easily. My guess is her joints are making the noise. I can't remember if it happened with my boys.
Is this normal in the regular world/ it's common so it is normal?
Is it normal in our understanding the health?

I've never heard of hearing the baby move, in my tiny bit of pregnant experience. *My* knees are popping like mad again, though, and my pubic symphysis was hurting again yesterday. Mo is helping a lot, both now and when I was pg. I've been doing big squirts of the nutricology drops in my water, several times a day.

Nothing helpful to add to the midwife discussion. With dd, my midwife left town the week of my due date and so I had her backup at the birth (two weeks later, so I'd seen her a few times by then). By pure chance, her backup was the same midwife my mom had for her vbac with my sister!

I'm trying to find my home, my rhythm, something that will ground me. I like structure, and have none. I'm feeling lost. Everything's changing, and I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around it and embracing it. It's good changes, though...

[mamafish9]

Skimming...

Originally Posted by chlobo

It was weird because he cleared up both time right after being sick. The first time he had a stomach bug. The second time he had a high fever. So something happens when he gets sick that is actually good for him. Don't ask me what.

Very common with autistic kids (they are way better when they have a fever). Fever tends to knock off viruses and bacteria. So it could be a chronic bacterial or viral infection residing in his sinuses (strep would be the most likely culprit) - fever sends strep and lots of other viruses and bacteria into dormant modes (that's how they survive the fever). So I think it's a really good clue for you, actually.

Originally Posted by chlobo

Quick question about the mind numbing Yasko results,

When she lists multiple B-12 supplements under a mutation does that mean she thinks you need them all? Or just pick and choose?

Also, is there a preferred order to deal with them? I think it would be pretty impossible to take all those supplements at once.

Sorry, I haven't been around a lot lately, did I miss your results???? If you give me your genetics, I'll tell you what order I'd tackle things (and what B12 you likely need). And yeah, it is a freakload of supps, I have it to something reasonable for DS, but plenty of kids on her forum take the whole boatload. I'm not around a lot right now, work picked up a bunch, but I'll try to stop back in over the weekend to help you out...

[chlobo]

Originally Posted by tanyalynn

I'm finding the whole discussion fascinating, and probably useful in a while for both the kids, but can you expand on this part specifically? Because lately I've been concerned about DS, I don't see him choosing a dominant hand. Yesterday, for example, we sat and talked through his math book, and there was a little bit of matching stuff in two columns (we skip everything that's actual writing because he is nowhere near ready to do that), and he just wrote with whichever hand was more convenient. He used both hands several times. So I would love to hear more, or hear how he determined that for your DD.

Well I don't know that much yet. He did it as part of his overall assessment and he moved pretty quickly so I can't definitively say "what" he did to assess it since he didn't explain as he went along. I also don't know what the exercises are since he said we'd talk about it after we started treatment. I'll let you know when I find out.