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post #1 of 28
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im planning to start an at home daycare. i live in a city but have a house. im only 22 but i am a single mother who's very responsible and have a 9 month old DD. my house is immaculately clean and i will have a seperate room for naps. i plan to take 6 children and will be licensed.
we are TV free and i babywear (and would for any baby who needed it) live very naturally. have few plastic toys. spend alot of time in our big backyard. i am very nurturing and would never let a child CIO or anything of the sort.

since i cook all our meals (DD and I) and they are allergen free organic homemade meals i would like to provide them for the kids as well.
all the kids would need to bring would be diapers and wipes and their own cream and a change of clothes.

does $50 a day per child sound reasonable? we are is MA btw. would you trust me to watch your child? will my age be a negative factor?
post #2 of 28
Might I suggest investing in a small tv for vidoes? Sometimes it rains (or snows) you cant get outside all the time, and not all families are TV free or even support TV free. Alot of times children LIKE to watch TV.

Otherwise, YES, I think that sounds very reasonable. Especially if you are in the Boston area.

Perhaps you could consider 10 dollars less for say, older age groups. At my DCP, they are 10 less a week each time your child moves up into an older age group. Its 6 weeks-18 months for infants, then 18months-36 months for toddlers, then 36 months-whenever your child is ready for kindergarden is preschool.
post #3 of 28
$50 a day might be reasonable b/c of where you live (it wouldn't be here), but that would be $300 a day if you took in 6 kids. I know you would have to buy food, etc., but I would personally not want to be watching 7 kids all day long by myself (including your infant). My state limits the total amount to 6 kids - including your own children - and only 2 of those can be under 2 years of age. So, you'd have to find 5 2-5 yr olds, and 1 other infant/toddler to get your 7 kids.

The ratio is too high, IMO - though I am not a working parent. To provide really good care, I'd probably only take on 3 kids - which would still amount to $150 a day before expenses/taxes. I would consider 6 kids if you had an assistant.
post #4 of 28
I would have to meet you first to know if I'd trust you
But, you sound super!

I think your price sounds reasonable and I would def. pay it considering you're providing snacks/meals etc.
A small tv may help, I agree with the pp mentioning that not all families are tv free. I might also add that you are AP-style in your ads....if it were me looking for a dcp and they said they were AP style/natural etc etc I would totally gear towards that!

The next pp mentioned numbers...again I agree! Keep
it down to 2-3 extra so you cna more easily provide the care you believe in
post #5 of 28
If you are licensed there are probably specific rules about age ratio. I have been a child care provider for 19 years now. Skip the TV. I NEVER use one with daycare kids, there are always other things you can do. I find that the lack of TV is a selling point, many other daycares have the TV on all the time, it will make you stand out. People, in my experience will pay a little extra for no TV, home cooked meals and someone who will do crafts, activities and educational things with their children.

If you are concerned about being taken seriously because of your age then treat it like a business with posted menus, schedules and a written daycare policy. If you come across as this is your occupation rather than "this is just what I am doing so I can stay home until my kid is in school" no one will care how old you are. Also, do research. Get knowlegable about child development and nutrition so that you sound experienced and professional.

Good luck. It can be a good time.
post #6 of 28
Your age would not be a factor in my decision.. That said in my area $50 is higher than anything I've encountered. Daycare here ranges from $25 -$38 a day. Our current daycare is the same cost for baby vs. older child.

One of the points I really liked about our current daycare is the variety of ages, there are children from age 4 (same as dd) all way to infants.
post #7 of 28
Thread Starter 
i know im my area $70 a day is the norm at a center idk about a home but i think home is usually preffered?

i also wanted to mention i was a nurses aide for the past 5 years and specialized in Alzheimers care. i personally had 8 residents to watch and care for the whole 8 or 16 hr day i worked. i do agree to have a smaller group as long as i can. but i also know kids tend to entertain eachother and perhaps the more the merrier lol i would obvs. abide by the laws regardless and i do own a tv but do not have cable. i still dont *think* i would play videos for the kids b/c i just think imagination and activities are far more importnant im sure if they do watch tv they watch enough at home.
post #8 of 28
I pay $50 a day for an in home daycare and that's cheap for my area. The rate is the same for all ages.
post #9 of 28
That would be downright cheap in my area (assuming you offer a 10-hour day). From a pricing structure perspective... the daycares I have investigated here frequently charge more if a child attends fewer than 5 days a week... i.e. it might be $110/day for one day a week, $95/day for three days a week, $80/day for five days a week. The very long established home daycares here work on a referral system and have long wait lists, they can and often do charge up to twice as much as new and "unproven" daycares. I guess in your shoes I would price out some well-regarded home daycares in your area and price yourself below them since you are just starting out.

The home-cooked organic meals would be a huge plus to me, plus the no TV and no CIO and natural-minded philosophies. I think that is a good niche to get into. The big backyard is a huge plus as well.
post #10 of 28
I watch kids in my home and $50/day would be high. But I'm in the midwest. I would suggest you check craigslist for other ads to see if you can gauge what an average cost is. I love all of your ideas and I think your age might be seen as a positive, especially since you are a mother. Younger people are perceived to have a lot more energy and creative ideas!

On numbers 6 is ambitious! I only care for two kids plus my two and it is HARD! I would definitely recommend balancing the age groups. The more you have that are 3 and up the easier, I think, it will be. Keep in mind that you might be potty training kids if you get them when they're 2-3, so I wouldn't want to have more than a couple of 2 year olds at a time.

TV, we are very limited tv for our family, but TV free during the day with the daycare kids. If they are used to watching tv all day, it might take a week or two to detox them,but eventually it's no big deal.

Good luck! I hope it works out just the way you hope
post #11 of 28
For MA, $50/day is about the norm in some areas (probably more in the city). You can only watch six children, including your own, in MA.

What is your experience with children? You are fairly young so I would want to know how much experience you have and what that has been like. For example, have you ever cared for six children at one time? How long? What did you do when there was a problem; hitting, biting, disagreements, rules, etc.? Do you do timeouts? (I'm against them but some people prefer them.)

State your rules clearly and unequivocally. Stop by a couple of centers and ask for a handbook so you can see what issues you may find.
post #12 of 28
Your price is higher than what I paid 2 years ago when I needed full time care but I think it is close to what is being asked now--I have a neighbor who was able to fill up her daycare quickly at $60 per day. Your age would not be as much of a concern to me as the types of activities the children would be doing, your discipline techniques and my general impression of you as a person. I would suggest having a written policy regarding late pick up of children which is part of the agreement parents sign. I have known home day care providers who have been taken advantage of by some parents who would consistently show up late and given your age I could see some people attempting to take advantage of extra time. Some of the daycares I used charged $1 per minute others said the care would be discontinued some had a policy of calling social services if the child was left more than an hour after closing time.

As for the tv one think I liked about my last daycare was the caregivers use of videos. I have children who gave up naps very early and would stay up way too late if they did nap during the day. I had frustrations with several daycares who expected young children to stay quiet on a mat (awake) for 2 hours--this was the source of most of the "behavior difficulties" my older child had in daycare. The last provider I used for my younger daughter did activities with the children all day except for "rest time" this was when she would have a video for children to watch until they fell asleep---or to watch if they did not fall asleep. She also had a room without the tv for children who would be distracted by the video. This worked very well for her and I appreciated having a child who was asleep at 8:30 rather than up until 11 as she would be if she took a nap. (A daily nap/rest time of 2 hours is required in my state)

Good luck with your business!
post #13 of 28
Honestly, your age would make me pause but if you were professional and sincere, it wouldn't stop me from hiring you. I would love the meal options and the no tv, but I wouldn't be able to afford you. In my area, rates do tend to change with age and my kids are less than $35 a day, each. I would think that having fewer families would be more convenient but paying $100 a day for 2 kids would be huge, and paying $150 for three would be well beyond what most people (in my area) would pay. I think a multi-child discount would help, and it's common here.
post #14 of 28
When my kiddos were day care age my provider participated in this http://www.fns.usda.gov/cnd/care/ for our state. It offset the cost of the food my kiddos ate and at least in my state it also ensured that my dcp had standards that she had to keep (you have already established yours and are probably better) but it was something else to add to her "tool box"
post #15 of 28
Oh, and I agree with the previous poster about the tv option for non-napping kids. Both of mine had given up naps by the age of two. We were able to work out options to keep them entertained but having a tv for them to watch while other kids napped would have made it easier on them, especially in the early years. Once they were 4-5, we could pack a DS for my son but I neer liked sending it to daycare...and my daughter would lay and color for awhile but both would get fidgety before the 90 minutes was up.
post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by Minxie View Post
For MA, $50/day is about the norm in some areas (probably more in the city). You can only watch six children, including your own, in MA.

What is your experience with children? You are fairly young so I would want to know how much experience you have and what that has been like. For example, have you ever cared for six children at one time? How long? What did you do when there was a problem; hitting, biting, disagreements, rules, etc.? Do you do timeouts? (I'm against them but some people prefer them.)

State your rules clearly and unequivocally. Stop by a couple of centers and ask for a handbook so you can see what issues you may find.
i dont do time outs. i hadnt really thought how to handle that... what do you do? with my patients we always just tried to distract them like if they were hitting i would hold their hands and sing a song. would that work for kids?

ive only babysat when i was like 12 besides for family members but i was a CNA for 5 years. so i have take care of 8 alzhiemers patients who were essentially childlike (hitting, biting, scratching, having temperfits)
post #17 of 28
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i dont do time outs. i hadnt really thought how to handle that... what do you do? with my patients we always just tried to distract them like if they were hitting i would hold their hands and sing a song. would that work for kids?
I don't know; I only have the one child and he doesn't bite or hit. There is one boy in his daycare that was angry on at least one occasion and started throwing toys. I was picking up my son when he was doing this and my son was relatively close to that area but on the swings so I moved the toys out of the child's easy reach.

It really depends on the age of the child as different ages require different methods. The point is more that you need to think out various situations and how you plan to handle them; this is another area where the handbooks will be helpful. For example, how many times are you willing to let one child bite or hit another before booting them out of the daycare?

Another point: are you planning to have children of all ages? I think there are also rules regarding mixed age daycares but I'm not sure of what they may be.
post #18 of 28
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Originally Posted by anielasmommy09 View Post
i dont do time outs. i hadnt really thought how to handle that... what do you do? with my patients we always just tried to distract them like if they were hitting i would hold their hands and sing a song. would that work for kids?
Depends on the kid. It worked for my oldest but the second child would freak out if you touched him while he was having a fit or being aggressive. He really hates people touching him in general, but during hard times that cause him to hit, it gets really bad!
post #19 of 28
So, that's about 1083 per month? That's reasonable in my area. I'm paying 1027 for my infant. One other daycare I looked at was 1250. Home day cares vary in amount in my area, too. I'd definitely consider you. I searched Craigslist for things like "cloth diaper" and "AP" and "cry it out" when I was searching for care. There was very little of that sort available, and it made me sad.
post #20 of 28
Moving to the WAHM Well.
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