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5 months & not gaining well

post #1 of 15
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My daughter was born at a healthy 8lb 2oz back in January. She has been an excellent nurser from about 20 minutes after birth when she wiggled her own way up to the breast. Our ped is very supportive of breastfeeding, but still works in a practice that is probably 75% formula fed babies. I think she is used to seeing babies grow very rapidly because of that.

My little bear has been a slow gainer from the get-go. It was suggested once that we supplement with formula when it took her awhile to get over jaundice and start gaining again. I politely refused and it has never been brought up since.

At 3 months she outright refused my left breast and is exclusively fed from the right side. My son did the same thing around the same age. It always produces less and flows slower. My son nursed for 2.5 years on the right side only and turned out great!

Now I am starting to wonder myself... She is coming up on 6 months now and is hovering around 13 lbs. She is very active and meeting all her milestones. She is rolling from both back and tummy, attempting to crawl, can sit up tri-pod style and straight backed with a little help, and she loves to stand if you hold her hands. She still nurses every 2 hours during the day and around 3-4 a night. We co-sleep so as to promote weight gain.

Last night she seemed hungry after having nursed for a long time. I had a container of Earth's Best formula a friend gave us at one point for mixing with solids. I decided to try the bottle of formula. I mixed 2 oz and she drank it without pause. Then she latched back on the breast for another 10-15 minutes and fell asleep.

Should I take this as a sign she is not filling up on BM and we should try supplementing some?
post #2 of 15
we are where you are. born at 8.3 and weighs less than 14 lbs. if both my other kids werent slow to gain (ds1 was ff) i'd be worried. i started solids when she started acting like my milk wasnt enough. i know shes getting enough milk because i pump and she pees a lot.
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post #3 of 15
I'd try to increase my milk/baby's milk intake before giving formula. Has she been checked for tongue tie? What else are you doing besides co-sleeping and nursing on demand (both great ways to increase milk intake )?
post #4 of 15
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I haven't really done much else besides co-sleeping and offering the breast as often as possible.

She does love her paci and I am wondering if now might be the time to toss that and only offer the boob for comfort sucking?

She also eats some solids now. Today she nursed about every 30min-1hr throughout the day, had one 2oz bottle of pumped milk, and ate 2/3 of a peach pureed with 1 tbsp of rice cereal. Needless to say, she is a hungry monster!

I thought of getting some of that More Milk tincture and starting my mornings with oatmeal to boost my supply some more. Being a one-sided nurser is hard though. I hate the lopsided feeling.
post #5 of 15


is there a reason you are feeding solids before 6 mo? with slow gaining, i worry that they are taking up space from higher cal breastmilk (22 cal/oz while cereal is much less). working on supply seems like a good plan. have you seen an lc or talked with a lll leader?

sorry so short - nak

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post #6 of 15
We don't feed cereal. she's been eating about 1 avacodo a day mixed with 1/2 banana and a couple tbs of prunes and a veggie
post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by shapiro-strano View Post
I haven't really done much else besides co-sleeping and offering the breast as often as possible.

She does love her paci and I am wondering if now might be the time to toss that and only offer the boob for comfort sucking?

She also eats some solids now. Today she nursed about every 30min-1hr throughout the day, had one 2oz bottle of pumped milk, and ate 2/3 of a peach pureed with 1 tbsp of rice cereal. Needless to say, she is a hungry monster!

I thought of getting some of that More Milk tincture and starting my mornings with oatmeal to boost my supply some more. Being a one-sided nurser is hard though. I hate the lopsided feeling.
I got the more milk tincture, maybe it was just me but it made my milk smell spoiled. i like the yogi nursing tea
post #8 of 15
Offer more breast. Stay topless and skin to skin with baby as much as possible. Get rid of paci or any bottles. All comfort sucking is best at your breast. Paci undermines breastfeeding relationship IMO. I would halt the solids. http://kellymom.com/nutrition/solids/index.html
Your milk is more nutritionally dense. Any food other than breastmilk is undermining the baby's health IMO. Babies under 6 mo are not developmentally able to digest solids well, they just take up space in their tummies and come out undigested. There is also a big chance early introduction of food leads to allergies later (though I believe most allergies are caused by the ingredients in vaccines, which has led to the peanut allergy epidemic we have now http://peanutallergyepidemic.com/about.html ) dd1 didn't eat solids until 10 mo, and dd2 ate them a bit at 8 mo, then around 14 mo hardly at all, and now is starting to eat them again at 19 mo. Offer the other breast regularly. Mine both refused one breast (first the right, then the left) for a time, but always went back to both. If your baby seems healthy, I wouldn't worry about any charts. The WHO chart is for breastfeeding babies, not FF ones. I do not even plot my babies on any chart. They are very healthy IMO. I think this is the chart you want... http://www.who.int/childgrowth/stand.../en/index.html

but again, I do not let anyone or any chart tell me how my child is doing fwiw
post #9 of 15
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I started feeding her solids because of her high interest and signs of readiness. She sits up, swallows well, can put food into her own mouth, etc. She plays with most of the food, but there are some things she really likes like bananas, avocados, and peaches. I use the rice cereal to thicken up think purees like peaches.

My son was also a big eater and nursed until he was 2.5 years.

Last night she nursed almost non stop. I have to admit it is exhausting for me when she does that. It feels like it is hard for my body to keep up. Oy. Well, I wouldn't give up the sweet nursing snuggles for anything though.
post #10 of 15
Just saw this when searching for something else and thought of you...
http://www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/mom/lopsided.html
post #11 of 15
too much solids for that age, imo. if you want her to be part of the family meal, freeze cubes of breast milk and give it to her in those mesh bag sucker-fedding thingies LOL sorry, dont know what theyre called

every bite of solids now takes away bm instead of adding nutrition. babies this age need bm, though they may seem to want solids. and of course formula, even organic, is just more bm the baby isnt getting.

i can vaguely recall those days of nursing around the clock, and lord! do i NEVEr want to go back to them LOL its a phase, mama, hang in there til it passes
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by blessedwithboys View Post
too much solids for that age, imo. if you want her to be part of the family meal, freeze cubes of breast milk and give it to her in those mesh bag sucker-fedding thingies LOL sorry, dont know what theyre called

every bite of solids now takes away bm instead of adding nutrition. babies this age need bm, though they may seem to want solids. and of course formula, even organic, is just more bm the baby isnt getting.

i can vaguely recall those days of nursing around the clock, and lord! do i NEVEr want to go back to them LOL its a phase, mama, hang in there til it passes
Do you prefer a baby supplementing with solids or formula?
post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
Good question Sharlla!

My ped recommended starting her on some solids if we didn't want to supplement with formula. So, which is a better supplement? She is coming up on 6 months.

I started taking the More Milk Plus supplement this weekend. We'll see if that helps boost supply. I also have been using the guide to battle the one sided nursing that someone linked too. I got her to nurse on the left side three times yesterday! Hopefully I can get her back on that breast a few times a day consistently.

Thanks for all the tips and help ladies!!
post #14 of 15
It might not have to be so many extreme changes ...

My LO was odd in that he gained 4 oz his first 5 days instead of losing weight. This contributed to my not recovering well from birth and I got sick, then he lost weight.

I was surprised he'd lost because I was nursing on demand. People here had lots of complex suggestions for me, and while I appreciated them I didn't need them ...

I just started feeding him more than he demanded. When he decided he was done, I'd burp him, change him, or play with him a minute and then put him back on. I was surprised by how willing he was to eat more.

That was all we needed to turn it around - it bumped up my supply nicely. Now, once a week or so, I try to spend a day or most of a day when I let him suck as much as he'll tolerate and I usually get another boost the next day. As a single mom all the ideals like no pacifier, constant skin-skin, and even making oatmeal are just not realistic with a 6 week old!

When I wanted to start pumping I got a hops tincture from my midwife, her tinctures are especially potent: www.highlandmidwife.com.
post #15 of 15
I remember 5 months as being a very difficult time nursing-wise. Lo would nurse like crazy and still seem unsatisfied. And I think that was the month she didn't gain any weight. I was also confused about solids. I think the foods I was giving her might have upset her stomach and made her want to nurse more. I dunno. It was just in incredibly fussy and uncomfortable time--for both of us.
Hang in there! It will get better!
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