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How to keep my cool in the face of poopy underwear

post #1 of 15
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So, my son who will be 3 tomorrow recently decided to wear underwear and has been doing great with peeing in the potty. He has very few wet accidents for weeks, but he's only pooped (hope that terminology is comfortable for everyone) a few times. Everyone tells me that one day it will just *click* and he will begin doing it on his own, but in the meantime, I'm changing 1-3 pairs of poopy underwear a day. My husband and I have tried to keep a very casual attitude about it "Oops! Oh well! Hopefully we will make it to the potty next time", which is perhaps why my son is so casual about it too, but it drives me crazy! Whenever he does it, he will just say to me casually "I pooped in my underwear". And for some reason, this laid-back attitude just really gets under my skin. I understand that I should be more understanding, but I'm trying to be honest with you all and just share that this is a real problem area for me. I have to restrain myself from yelling at him, and I hate being that way. Any tips for surviving this time?
post #2 of 15
My son is almost 4.5 and just started wearing underwear regularly. The first few days he pooped about 3 x/day in his underwear- he just didn't feel it. It really helped to leave him naked as much as possible- more awareness of the poop I think.

Good luck!!
post #3 of 15
My son was perfectly aware that he was pooping in his underwear. He just didn't like pooping on the potty. He got more motivated to poop on the potty when I started giving him M&Ms for pooping on the potty. I don't know if the reward system is frowned upon here -- sorry if it is.

He was doing so well and then an older child came over to our house and very obviously pooped in his pants. DS then started pooping in his pants again... argh. Now he's old enough (he's 3 year 3 months) that I can reason with him a little -- it's working but it's pretty gradual.

For sanity, I remind myself that it's really no different than washing a diaper.
post #4 of 15
No pants/ no underwear has help ds a lot, although we have had to clean poop off the stairs. I understand your frustration, we are right there. I feel extra frustrated after we have "good" day and then I feel like "what the hell!" I think being calm and causal will pay off in the long run, but there are times when I can't change another pair of poopy underwear and need to take a few minutes so I don't get upset.

We tried giving poop rewards (these juice fruit snack things and stickers) and he wasn't all that into it.
post #5 of 15
Have you thought about lining his underpants with those flushable liners for cloth diapers? Then you can just life the poop out (provided it's fairly solid) and flush it down.

Just a thought...until it clicks.

Another thought might be a bit hard since he only just about to be three, but perhaps he could be responsible for dumping his poop in the toilet and putting it to soak, then getting clean undies...Three is maybe a bit young to wipe himself, I guess... Just maybe if he has to do some of the work in cleaning it up, you will feel less resentful, and he will feel more incentive to poop in the potty.

Also the Poopsmith song is a fun way to learn the rules about poop.
post #6 of 15
Perhaps give him a diaper to poop in until he feels more comfortable going on the toilet?
post #7 of 15
Can you discern any kind of schedule to the pooping? My ped recommended doing "potty time" first thing in the am, right after lunch, and after dinner--so at least the potty trainer has three guaranteed opportunities to move their bowels in the potty.
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by mom2grrls View Post
Perhaps give him a diaper to poop in until he feels more comfortable going on the toilet?
That's a great idea! I had a friend who did that with her DD--when her DD had to poop she went and changed into a pullup by herself, made her poop then asked her mom to change her pullup.
post #9 of 15
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That's a great idea! I had a friend who did that with her DD--when her DD had to poop she went and changed into a pullup by herself, made her poop then asked her mom to change her pullup.
We do this at our house. Our son is 3.5 and wears underwear through the day. He poops like clockwork about 7pm and always asks for a pullup just before. He refuses to poop in the potty too and cries like crazy if we try to put him there, so we don't force him, we just let him lead. He has a present waiting for him in the bathroom all wrapped [cars] for the first time he does poop. In the meantime, it will happen, I know it will

Now he's still in a pull up at night because we haven't gotten the night thing down yet. I'm not sure what to do about that. Quite a few people around here say "don't give him a anything to drink after 6pm" but honestly this just seems mean to me. I would hate it if I wanted a drink at 8pm and some said "nope, sorry nothing after 6pm."

So I'm looking for advice in this area.
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by TerraNoelle View Post

Now he's still in a pull up at night because we haven't gotten the night thing down yet. I'm not sure what to do about that. Quite a few people around here say "don't give him a anything to drink after 6pm" but honestly this just seems mean to me. I would hate it if I wanted a drink at 8pm and some said "nope, sorry nothing after 6pm."

So I'm looking for advice in this area.
We started by eliminating all caffine and then we gave drinks in SMALL doses (like two gulps maximum) for two hours before bed so that he wouldn't over drink, and made him TRY to go pee before bed (he always managed quite a lot even if he protested and said he didn't have to go) and gave him a 1/4 full glass "for the morning" to put by his bed which makes him feel like he isn't being deprived.

It's worked wonders.

He still hass accidents, but almost always we can trace it back to him not going pee before bed, or having caffine within five hours of bedtime.
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by hakeber View Post
We started by eliminating all caffine and then we gave drinks in SMALL doses (like two gulps maximum) for two hours before bed so that he wouldn't over drink, and made him TRY to go pee before bed (he always managed quite a lot even if he protested and said he didn't have to go) and gave him a 1/4 full glass "for the morning" to put by his bed which makes him feel like he isn't being deprived.

It's worked wonders.

He still hass accidents, but almost always we can trace it back to him not going pee before bed, or having caffeine within five hours of bedtime.
This sounds like a good plan! Thank you! He doesn't get any caffeine so I don't have to worry there, just milk, water, watered down juice or some decaf green tea is his scope of drinks

I'll have to give it go tomorrow!!!
post #12 of 15
Quite a few people around here say "don't give him a anything to drink after 6pm" but honestly this just seems mean to me. I would hate it if I wanted a drink at 8pm and some said "nope, sorry nothing after 6pm." >>>>>

My son is 6 and still sometimes wets the bed. Really cutting off fluids after a certain time doesn't make a difference for him. I agree with you if the kid is thirsty I'm not going to say no(of course I don't give an 8 oz glass of water though). We have him go pee right before laying down and he wears a pullup most nights. I think his issue is he sleeps so soundly(we can move him, change him and he won't wake) and he is more likely to wet overnight when overtired. So give it time, he's young yet
post #13 of 15
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Everyone tells me that one day it will just *click* and he will begin doing it on his own, but in the meantime, I'm changing 1-3 pairs of poopy underwear a day. My husband and I have tried to keep a very casual attitude about it "Oops! Oh well! Hopefully we will make it to the potty next time", which is perhaps why my son is so casual about it too, but it drives me crazy! Whenever he does it, he will just say to me casually "I pooped in my underwear". And for some reason, this laid-back attitude just really gets under my skin.
This was a hot-button, steam coming out of the ears issue for me, especially because we did/do EC with our babies (and I expected results! ha ha). I had a few times of screaming into pillows or into the air (not cool, scares any the rest of the poop out of the kid, not literally, but you know...)

Here are my lessons learned from DS1, bless his heart:
1. really active boys who like to play in water and sand and have excellent powers of concentration are not likely to move from playing for 2 Tbsp. of pee, and if they need to poop, they may not notice/move/tell you until it is 'too late.'
2. Getting mad will not help. at. all. Breathe through it, mama. Foist clean-up off on DH if he's around and it makes DH less crazy than it makes you. This was my strategy when we were having poop accidents more often than I wanted or I was tired/cranky and didn't want to deal with it.
3. Praise efforts, even if they fall short. "Hey, you noticed that you made a poop. Thanks for letting me know." Think of the animal training method where incremental movement towards the target behavior is rewarded, and look at the progress that he is making.
4. Be proactive about pottying. Make it a non-negotiable that we try to potty once an hour or so, before meals, before leaving the house, etc. We tell DS, "Even if you don't feel like you need to pee, let's go sit on the potty anyway. You don't have to pee, but you have to give it a shot. That way, you don't need to think about it again for awhile."
5. Make it fun. Race him to the bathroom, have a race to see who can pull their pants down fastest (winner gets to use the toilet first). Have special potty toys you play with together when he's sitting on the commode. For our DS, fire is an obsession, so it works great to say in a squeaky voice of a potty candle, "Hey M, it's been awhile since I got to burn. Will you come sit on the potty so that mama can light me again?" Sometimes I will ask if he wants to use the big toilet or his toddler potty, and which one I should use.
6. Offer him options and responsibility - do you want reminders to go potty? Get yourself some clean undies and pants out of the basket, and put them on. Let me know if you need help.
7. If he is reward-driven, I would happily resort to bribery/sticker charts/M&Ms - one of those things I thought, "I'll NEVER..." until I had a child, and now I understand. Unfortunately for my pottying agenda, DS doesn't care passionately about anything except fire and nursing.
8. If your family is into scatalogical humor, I had a friend who actually kept a "poop log," complete with drawings and names, of all the poops that went into the toilet for some months. Maybe a record of successes would be a motivator. DS does like to appraise his efforts with comments like, "I made a poopsnake," followed by a lot of giggling. But our household will never mature past fart jokes; you might not be so low-brow.

I can also tell you that you and he WILL come out the other side. We still have to do TONS of reminders, and we're batting about 50/50 with dry days versus accidents, but he is finally pretty consistent about noticing when he needs to poop before the blessed event occurs. His code is, "Will you take care of me?" I am so grateful for this, and I am happy to drop whatever I am doing to hustle into the bathroom and take care of him.
post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by TerraNoelle View Post
Now he's still in a pull up at night because we haven't gotten the night thing down yet. I'm not sure what to do about that. Quite a few people around here say "don't give him a anything to drink after 6pm" but honestly this just seems mean to me. I would hate it if I wanted a drink at 8pm and some said "nope, sorry nothing after 6pm."

So I'm looking for advice in this area.
We have our son pee last thing before bedtime, then rouse him just enough to potty him before we go to sleep, around 11 or midnight. We sit him on a Baby Bjorn little potty that's ridiculously small at this point, but that way he doesn't even get out of bed. He pees in it without ever really waking up, flops back down into the bed, and we put his diaper back on. He's dry about 6 mornings out of 10, and often the wet diaper is still hot, and it's obviously from him peeing when he wakes up. Also, I have noticed a VERY STRONG correlation between when he eats cheese and when he pees at night. Pizza is guaranteed to make a wet diaper in the morning, and probably the next morning after that. Try cutting out dairy or at least cheeses (yogurt does not have this effect) and see if it helps.
post #15 of 15
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Thanks ladies for all your advice! He has begun doing a little better with noticing when he has to poop, which I'm hoping means that we have turned a corner. He is now about 50/50 with pooping on the potty v. his underwear. I liked Kcparker's suggestion about rewarding even the smallest successes ("good job letting me know that you went"). I've heard of the idea of giving them a pull-up when they have to go, and I even used to experience that with a little girl I babysat; however, my son never lets me know when he needs to go -it's always after the fact. I will try offering him that suggestion and see if he asks me next time - at least it saves me cleaning the underwear. Unfortunately, his pooping schedule is all over the place, so for those of you who suggested putting him in a pull-up or on the potty when I know it's coming - that won't really work for us. I also may try the naked idea if I get desparate, but b/c I'm seeing progress for now, I think I'll wait. Thanks again ladies!
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