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Need thoughts on this schedule please! ~~New schedule post 14~~

post #1 of 22
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So, obviously I am going to try to keep ex from having any unsupervised visitation with Owen, but since he's asking in court I'm sure he'll get *something*. So here is my first draft proposal. I have a few days to tweak it before I can talk to my lawyer about it.

ETA- I actually think I'm going to change it so that step one is from 8am-2pm on Friday and Saturday and 8am-noon on Sunday. Then step 1 below will actually become step 2 and so on down the line. I don't think that's fair to Owen to put him in a situation where he's in a virtual strangers care for 12 full hours in a row after not being in his care alone for years (and when he was in his care alone it was never for more than 3 hours at a time).

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To ensure Owen’s safety, Matthew must prove he can provide Owen a safe house and car, free of smoke and pet dander before any visits can occur in his home or transportation can occur in his car.

Step 1- Stephanie will bring Owen to Michigan a minimum of 4 times per year for one weekend each (arriving Thursday night and leaving Sunday afternoon). These dates will be determined according to Owen’s school schedule so that he misses as little school as possible. Matthew will have parenting time on these weekends from 8am-8pm on Friday and Saturday and from 8am-noon on Sunday. In addition to this, Stephanie will inform Matthew of all breaks from school (spring, summer, fall, holiday) and Matthew will make an effort to visit Owen in Kentucky on any/all of these breaks if Owen is not in Michigan at those times. To continue the relationship between visits, Matthew will call Owen at minimum 3 days per week, on a set schedule (same day/time every week, unless otherwise agreed upon by both parties) as determined by Matthew. Owen’s school hours are between 7:45am-3:35 pm. Matthew is also encouraged to send Owen letters or cards and Stephanie will ensure that if Owen chooses to send anything to Matthew then she will facilitate that. Step 1 will last one year, starting from the date of the first visit.

If at any time Matthew fails to exercise his parenting time or fails to call at a scheduled time (without first discussing a change in time with Stephanie) he will start the one year countdown over again, to ensure the routine and consistency Owen needs to thrive.

When Matthew has successfully completed step 1 and has proven that his home and car are smoke free, as well as having an adequate sleeping area for Owen, and provided Owen has not regressed or showing signs that he is not transitioning well, he will move onto step 2.

Step 2- Stephanie will bring Owen to Michigan a minimum of 4 times per year for one weekend each (arriving Thursday night and leaving Sunday afternoon). These dates will be determined according to Owen’s school schedule so that he misses as little school as possible. Matthew will have parenting time on these weekends from 8am Friday to 8am Saturday, 2pm-8pm Saturday and 8am-noon Sunday. Matthew will ensure that Owen is available at 8pm Friday for Stephanie to call and talk to him. In addition to this, Stephanie will inform Matthew of all breaks from school (spring, summer, fall, holiday) and Matthew will make an effort to visit Owen in Kentucky on any/all of these breaks if Owen is not in Michigan at those times. To continue the relationship between visits, Matthew will call Owen at minimum 3 days per week, on a set schedule (same day/time every week, unless otherwise agreed upon by both parties) as determined by Matthew. Owen’s school hours are between 7:45am-3:35 pm. Matthew is also encouraged to send Owen letters or cards and Stephanie will ensure that if Owen chooses to send anything to Matthew then she will facilitate that. Step 2 will last one year, starting from the date of the first visit.

If at any time Matthew fails to exercise his parenting time or fails to call at a scheduled time (without first discussing a change in time with Stephanie) he will start the one year countdown over again, to ensure the routine and consistency Owen needs to thrive.

When Matthew has successfully completed one full year at step 2, and as long as Owen is not regressing or showing signs that he is not handling this transition, Matthew will move onto step 3.

Step 3- Stephanie will bring Owen to Michigan a minimum of 4 times per year for one weekend each (arriving Thursday night and leaving Sunday afternoon). These dates will be determined according to Owen’s school schedule so that he misses as little school as possible. Matthew will have parenting time from 8am Friday to 8am Sunday. Matthew will ensure that Owen is available at 8pm on both Saturday and Sunday for Stephanie to call and talk to him. In addition to this, Stephanie will inform Matthew of all breaks from school (spring, summer, fall, holiday) and Matthew will make an effort to visit Owen in Kentucky on any/all of these breaks if Owen is not in Michigan at those times. To continue the relationship between visits, Matthew will call Owen at minimum 3 days per week, on a set schedule (same day/time every week, unless otherwise agreed upon by both parties) as determined by Matthew. Owen’s school hours are between 7:45am-3:35 pm. Matthew is also encouraged to send Owen letters or cards and Stephanie will ensure that if Owen chooses to send anything to Matthew then she will facilitate that. Step 3 will last one year from the date of the first visit.

If at any time Matthew fails to exercise his parenting time or fails to call at a scheduled time (without first discussing a change in time with Stephanie) he will start the one year countdown over again, to ensure the routine and consistency Owen needs to thrive.

When Matthew has successfully completed one full year at step 3 and as long as Owen is not regressing or showing signs he is not handling the transition he will move onto step 4.

Step 4- Matthew will be responsible for picking Owen up from Kentucky and either staying in Kentucky or bringing Owen back to Michigan for his parenting time (whichever Matthew chooses). Matthew will also be responsible for bringing Owen back to Kentucky, unless the parties agree on something different. Matthew’s parenting time will include 4 days (from 8am on the first day until 8 pm on the 4th day) on Owen’s spring break. Also included will be a 4 day visit in June (from 8am on the first day until 8pm on the 4th day), after Owen’s school is dismissed for the summer as well as a 4 day visit in July (from 8am on the first day until 8pm on the 4th day). These visits must be at least 2 weeks apart. In addition Matthew will have parenting time for 4 days during Owen’s winter vacation (from 8am on the first day until 8pm on the 4th day). On odd years Matthew will have the option of this occurring during Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. On even years Stephanie will have parenting time during Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. Matthew will ensure that Owen is available by phone every night at 8pm so Stephanie can call and talk to him. Stephanie will inform Matthew of Owen’s spring break, summer break and winter break dates by January 1st. Matthew will inform Stephanie of the dates he wishes to exercise his parenting time for that year by February 1st. To continue the relationship between visits, Matthew will call Owen at minimum 3 days per week, on a set schedule (same day/time every week, unless otherwise agreed upon by both parties) as determined by. Owen’s school hours are between 7:45am-3:35 pm. Matthew is also encouraged to send Owen letters or cards and Stephanie will ensure that if Owen chooses to send anything to Matthew then she will facilitate that. Step 4 will last one year from the date of the first visit.

If at any time Matthew fails to exercise his parenting time or fails to call at a scheduled time (without first discussing a change in time with Stephanie) he will start the one year countdown over again, to ensure the routine and consistency Owen needs to thrive.

When Matthew has successfully completed step 4, and as long as Owen is not regressing or showing signs that he is not handling this transition, Matthew will move onto step 5.

Step 5- Matthew will be responsible for picking Owen up from Kentucky and either staying in Kentucky or bringing Owen back to Michigan for his parenting time (whichever Matthew chooses). Matthew will also be responsible for bringing Owen back to Kentucky, unless the parties agree on something different. Matthew’s parenting time will include 7 days during Owen’s spring break, 7 days during June (after Owen’s school has dismissed), 7 days during July and 7 days on winter break. The visits in June and July must be at least 2 weeks apart. Each of these visits will occur from 8am on the first day until 8pm on the 7th day. On odd years Matthew will have the option of his parenting time occurring during Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. On even years Stephanie will have parenting time during Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. Matthew will ensure that Owen is available by phone at 8pm every night so that Stephanie can call and talk to him. Stephanie will inform Matthew of Owen’s spring, summer and winter breaks by January 1st. Matthew will inform Stephanie of the dates he would like to exercise his parenting time by February 1st. To continue the relationship between visits, Matthew will call Owen at minimum 3 days per week, on a set schedule (same day/time every week, unless otherwise agreed upon by both parties) as determined by. Owen’s school hours are between 7:45am-3:35 pm. Matthew is also encouraged to send Owen letters or cards and Stephanie will ensure that if Owen chooses to send anything to Matthew then she will facilitate that. Step 5 will last one year from the date of the first visit.

If at any time Matthew fails to exercise his parenting time or fails to call at a scheduled time (without first discussing a change in time with Stephanie) he will start the one year countdown over again, to ensure the routine and consistency Owen needs to thrive.

When Matthew has successfully completed step 5, and as long as Owen is not regressing or showing signs that he is not handling this transition, Matthew will move onto step 6.

Step 6- Matthew will be responsible for picking Owen up from Kentucky and either staying in Kentucky or bringing Owen back to Michigan for his parenting time (whichever Matthew chooses). Matthew will also be responsible for bringing Owen back to Kentucky, unless the parties agree on something different. Matthew’s parenting time will include 7 days during Owen’s spring break, 14 days in June, 14 days in July and 7 days during Owen’s holiday break. The visits in June and July must be at least 2 weeks apart. The parenting time during Owen’s holiday break may occur on Christmas Eve and Christmas day on odd years. On even years Stephanie will have parenting time on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. Each of these visits will occur from 8am on the first day until 8pm on the last day. Matthew will ensure that Owen is available by phone at 8pm every night so that Stephanie can call and talk to him. Stephanie will inform Matthew of Owen’s spring, summer and winter breaks by January 1st. Matthew will inform Stephanie of the dates he would like to exercise his parenting time by February 1st. To continue the relationship between visits, Matthew will call Owen at minimum 3 days per week, on a set schedule (same day/time every week, unless otherwise agreed upon by both parties) as determined by. Owen’s school hours are between 7:45am-3:35 pm. Matthew is also encouraged to send Owen letters or cards and Stephanie will ensure that if Owen chooses to send anything to Matthew then she will facilitate that.
post #2 of 22
Honestly, that sounds great. I am not sure what the judge will say about overnights. The precedent set allows for NO overnights, no unsupervised, so it is hard to say. It sounds like a nice way to ease Owen into spending more time with his dad.

Can you look up court cases with autistic children and see what they did for overnights?
post #3 of 22
He hasn't even adhered to the original agreement. You can show he never took more then a few hours a year even though you offered way more. Why would a judge offer more time? You offered more time. He never used it. Show that and you are fine.
post #4 of 22
I think saying if he doesn't make his scheduled phone calls that he will have to go back to step one that it just wouldn't fly in court. Life happens, people miss phone calls. Whether your child is special needs or not the consistency is important for all children. Maybe rephrase it to if he does not maintain consistent phone calls and visits then the original plan remain in effect until he is capable of doing so. Also why no overnights? I know your son is special needs but can you prove it would be of great dentriment for him to not have overnights with his father? My daughter is special needs and any transition is very difficult for her and us. But with her father living far away overnights is important for her to create a bond with her dad and we just all have to deal with the transitions. She has fun with her dad and loves the visits. Even through the misery and tantrums that can last for weeks after the visits. I have to deal with the transitions not her dad but with the distance overnights is just one way she can get to know her dad better. It is inconvenient to me and my other kids but still i think it is more important for her to get that time. I think even if you offer overnights he will never do it. Or maybe try it once and give up. I think you know that too.
post #5 of 22
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\Also why no overnights? I know your son is special needs but can you prove it would be of great dentriment for him to not have overnights with his father?
The no overnights (or longer visits) don't have much to do with my son's special needs. It has to do with the fact my son has Respiratory Airway Disease (may or may not be asthma but for now the dr's are calling it RAD). He cannot be around smoke at all. Ex still smokes, despite being told by a judge 6 years ago that ds can't be in a house that is being smoked in (even if he doesn't smoke when ds is there, that crap is still in the house and covering furniture, clothes, walls, etc). Multiple doctors in 2 different states have backed us up on this one. Ex has had 6 years to quit smoking. He's chosen not to and wants to put my childs LIFE at risk because of his selfish behavior? No.

The reason for no long or overnight visits is because I want my child alive when I get him back.

~~The rest of this is not directed at you, Avani~~

Since I had a night to sleep on it and think this over.... I don't think I'm going to offer this visitation schedule. I think it's bull that ex completely disregards my son's health and welfare and thinks he can demand this crap. Nope, not gonna happen. He's disappeared for over a year at a time (there was a period of 2 years where the only contact he had was one 30 minute visit at my dad's house because he came over to talk to me and just happened to see ds). He doesn't contact ds between visits, ever. He often skips visits altogether and when he does see him it's only for 2-3 hours at a time.

No. He doesn't deserve long/overnight visits. If he actually gave a d*mn about this child he would be in his life CONSISTENTLY and making an effort to keep in contact with him.

I won't say anything more until after this is all over but we'll say I'm done with this crap and I'm pulling out the big guns now. The gloves have come off and I'm done playing nice.
post #6 of 22
Good luck Steph. I haven't posted much on your threads, but you seem to be doing everything right on your end. That he's asking for more, when he doesn't use what's offered is ridiculous. It reminds me of when my dd is eating something she likes, and brings the bowl back half full, asking for more before she finishes what she has.
post #7 of 22
OK, I have no experience with this, but it seems to me that you're offering way too much. If you lived in the same city you wouldn't be pulling him out of school on Thursday to allow dad to spend the day with him.

I'd say, assume that you're working towards 24 hour visits (two on Sat. to two on Sunday) and start with 4 hours each day. (2 to 6 on Sat, 10 to 2 on Sun.). Then you can gradually add to that until he's got Owen right up until bedtime, and he comes home to you with his teeth brush and his jammies on.

I also think you need to specify what visitation in your town looks like. I think he should mirror the visitation to you -- e.g. he comes and stays in a hotel, and takes Owen for 2 4 hour visits, and that it happens X number of times a year. Maybe you could make it so that you do alternating visits, ad you aren't on the hook for the next one until he's come to you once. The way you have it now leaves it really open to him showing up and demanding that Owen be available whenever he wants him.

On the other hand, I don't think "one strike and you're out" is fair. Things do happen, and missing a phone call because of a last minute emergency can happen to anyone. I'd say that if you travel there and he doesn't exercise at least 6 of his 8 hours of time, that's a strike, or not making 80 or 90% of the phone calls, but I don't think you can ask for perfection, especially if you are going to want to be able to ask for some flexibility.
post #8 of 22
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OK, I have no experience with this, but it seems to me that you're offering way too much. If you lived in the same city you wouldn't be pulling him out of school on Thursday to allow dad to spend the day with him.
You're right- that original one was offering him WAY too much. As I stated a few posts up, I no longer will be offering that schedule. I'm going to have to think on this more to decide what I'm going to do.

I will say though, that ds won't miss school for these visits. The visits will occur on weekends where he has Friday off school (spring break, summer break, winter break).

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I also think you need to specify what visitation in your town looks like. I think he should mirror the visitation to you -- e.g. he comes and stays in a hotel, and takes Owen for 2 4 hour visits, and that it happens X number of times a year. Maybe you could make it so that you do alternating visits, ad you aren't on the hook for the next one until he's come to you once.
Okay, I really like this idea. I'll run it past my lawyer and see what she says (I may technically be responsible for transportation because I did move ds out of the state so I'm not sure if we can require him to visit ds here).

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On the other hand, I don't think "one strike and you're out" is fair. Things do happen, and missing a phone call because of a last minute emergency can happen to anyone. I'd say that if you travel there and he doesn't exercise at least 6 of his 8 hours of time, that's a strike, or not making 80 or 90% of the phone calls, but I don't think you can ask for perfection, especially if you are going to want to be able to ask for some flexibility.
I think the "one strike you're out" is fair, but only because I've been dealing with this crap for too long. If it was a normal person and they missed a phone call- no biggie. Crap happens and I understand that. HOWEVER, this is not a normal person we're dealing with. This is a person who seems to think he can go months (or over a year at one point) with NO contact with the child and then suddenly demand the child is spending weeks with him. A normal parent who actually gave a darn about the child would be working with the child and the other parent to build up time while at the same time keeping in contact with the child between visits.

In the court papers I just got it states that I only "allowed" ex to see ds for 3 hours on the visit in March and that I hadn't let him see ds since November of last year.

Now the truth is that I brought ds to Michigan in March and ex could have spent 8am-8pm on Friday and Saturday and 8am-noon on Sunday with ds. He spent 3 hours with him on Friday and said he would call me Saturday between 10am and noon. He didn't and refused to answer the phone when I called. He chose to not see him Saturday or Sunday. The truth is also that before that he hadn't seen (or contacted in any way) ds since October 2009. At that visit he had the same time guidelines he could have used, but saw ds for 3 hours on Friday and not at all on Saturday or Sunday. The truth is that I brought ds back to Michigan for Thanksgiving AND Christmas 2009 and ex refused to see ds at all, on any of those dates (some of his family did see ds on the Christmas visit, even though ex didn't).

This is not a person that cares about this child. This is a person who has been terribly misguided (no doubt by his wife) and thinks if he can get ds for long periods of time then it will reduce his child support.
post #9 of 22
Ok, so a life threatening condition. Yeah, all the above is reasonable. However given his past you have offered him more then enough and he never cared. So i really don't see how a judge is going to change anything. Really it is all about the control issues and hassle of court hearings other then that i don't see how the judge would give that man anything different. However, given my own experience, you just never know. Good luck.
post #10 of 22
So do you have the phone records to show how he never called during that time or refused your calls? If so that would be great evidence. Otherwise just the fact that your ex smokes and this could effect the life of your child should be enough to show why you wouldn't want him spending much time with the father. He is careless with his kids life.
post #11 of 22
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I think the "one strike you're out" is fair, but only because I've been dealing with this crap for too long. If it was a normal person and they missed a phone call- no biggie. Crap happens and I understand that. HOWEVER, this is not a normal person we're dealing with. This is a person who seems to think he can go months (or over a year at one point) with NO contact with the child and then suddenly demand the child is spending weeks with him. A normal parent who actually gave a darn about the child would be working with the child and the other parent to build up time while at the same time keeping in contact with the child between visits.
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Yes, but if you write 100% the judge is still going to see it as a sign that you're being unfair. But if you write it as 90%, then you look reasonable, and one of two things will happen.

1) He'll fail anyway -- he's at, what 10% now? So setting it at 90% vs. 100% isn't exactly making it easy for him.

or

2) He'll actually do it 90% of the time, which is a sign that he is trying really hard, and that frankly he deserves a break.

Also, I wonder about shorter increments of change. So, maybe start at 2 3 hour visits, and add a hour until bedtime (say 2 6 hour visits) every fourth visit. The start moving up the start time on Sat. until he has him 8 to 8. Visits in his territory don't happen unless he's come to you, and unless he's made at least X phone calls since the last time.
post #12 of 22
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1) He'll fail anyway -- he's at, what 10% now? So setting it at 90% vs. 100% isn't exactly making it easy for him.
As far as phone calls? He's at 0%. He's never called ds, ever, in almost 7 years.

90% seems like a good compromise
post #13 of 22
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As far as phone calls? He's at 0%. He's never called ds, ever, in almost 7 years.

90% seems like a good compromise
Yeah, see, then you look generous, and it's not like you're taking a huge risk that he'll be able to do it.
post #14 of 22
Thread Starter 
New Proposed Parenting Plan

As per the schedule Stephanie and Matthew already have, Stephanie will bring Owen to Michigan on the weekends of October *** 2010 and December *** 2010. Matthew will have parenting time on each of those Fridays and Saturdays from 10am-2pm and on each of the Sundays from 8am-noon. Parenting time will occur in a public area free of smoke. Transportation will not occur in any car that has been smoked in, or has smoke residue from clothing. If Matthew cannot obtain such a vehicle then Stephanie will drop off and pick up Owen in the *** or *** area.

Further, Matthew will visit Owen in Lexington, Kentucky on a weekend of his choosing in November 2010 and either January or February 2011. If Owen is in school on the Friday Matthew visits then he will have parenting time from 4pm-8pm on Friday, 10am-2pm on Saturday and 8am-noon on Sunday. If Owen is not in school on the Friday Matthew visits then he will have parenting time from 10am-2pm on Friday and Saturday and 8am-noon on Sunday. All visits will occur in a public area free from smoke. Transportation will not occur in any car that has been smoked in, or has smoke residue from clothing. If Matthew cannot obtain such a vehicle then Stephanie will drop off and pick up Owen in the Lexington, Kentucky area. Matthew will contact Stephanie by September 1st, 2010 with the dates he will visit Owen in Kentucky in November and January/February.

In addition to this, Matthew will call Owen at minimum three days per week on a set schedule (same day/time every week, unless otherwise agreed upon by both parties) as determined by Matthew. Owen’s school hours are between 7:45am-2:35 pm. Matthew is also encouraged to send Owen letters or cards and Stephanie will ensure that if Owen chooses to send anything to Matthew then she will facilitate that.

Matthew must complete every visit and make 90% of the phone calls before additional parenting time will occur. Four weekend visits (two in Michigan and two in Kentucky) must be completed, in addition to 90% of the phone calls, before moving onto the next step in increasing parenting time.

Stephanie will bring Owen to Michigan four weekends in the year 2011 (on Owen’s spring break, in June, in July and over the holiday break). These dates will be determined and communicated with Matthew by January 1st, 2011. Stephanie will also communicate with Matthew on the dates of Owen’s spring break, summer break and holiday break, as well as any other long weekends from school, by January 1st, 2011. Matthew will visit Owen in Michigan between the visits in Michigan (in January or February, between Owen’s spring break and June, in late June or early July and in either September or October). Matthew will determine and communicate these dates to Stephanie by January 15th, 2011. When 4 weekends have been completed (two in Michigan and two in Kentucky) parenting time will increase to 6 hours on Fridays and Saturdays (10am-4pm) and 4 hours on Sunday (8am-noon).

When four weekends have been completed with 6 hour visits on Friday and Saturday and 4 hour visits on Sunday (2 in Michigan and 2 in Kentucky), as well as 90% of the phone calls made, parenting time will increase to include Friday and Saturday parenting time from 10am-6pm and Sunday from 8am-noon.

When four weekends have been completed with 8 hour visits on Friday and Saturday and 4 hour visits on Sunday (2 in Michigan and 2 in Kentucky), as well as 90% of the phone calls made, parenting time will increase to include Friday and Saturday parenting time from 8am-6pm and Sunday from 8am-noon.

When four weekends have been completed with 10 hour visits on Friday and Saturday and 4 hour visits on Sunday (2 in Michigan and 2 in Kentucky), as well as 90% of the phone calls made, parenting time will increase to include Friday and Saturday parenting time from 8am-8pm and Sunday from 8am-noon.

When four weekends have been completed with 12 hours on Friday and Saturday and 4 hour visits on Sunday (2 in Michigan and 2 in Kentucky), as well as 90% of the phone calls made, parenting time will be re-evaluated. At this time it will be necessary for Matthew to show that he can provide Owen a smoke free and pet free environment, as well as an adequate sleeping area. When that has been accomplished parenting time will include 8am Friday to noon Saturday and 8am-noon on Sunday. Matthew will ensure that Owen is available at 8pm Friday for Stephanie to call and talk to Owen.

When four weekends have been completed with Friday overnights and 4 hours on Sunday (2 in Michigan and 2 in Kentucky), as well as 90% of the phone calls made, parenting time will increase to include 8am Friday to 8pm Saturday and 8am-noon Sunday. Matthew will ensure that Owen is available at 8pm Friday for Stephanie to call and talk to Owen.

When four weekend visits have been completed with Friday overnight to Saturday night and 4 hours on Sunday (2 in Michigan and 2 in Kentucky), as well as 90% of the phone calls made, parenting time will increase to include 8am Friday to noon Sunday. Matthew will ensure that Owen is available at 8pm Friday and 8pm Saturday for Stephanie to call and talk to Owen.

***If at any point Matthew does not complete the visit or does not complete 90% of the phone calls then the count will start over and he will be required to complete four more visits at whatever stage he is at. ***

When Matthew has completed 4 visits (2 in Kentucky and 2 in Michigan) from 8am Friday to noon Sunday, as well as 90% of the phone calls then Stephanie and Matthew will work together to determine how to proceed with additional parenting time.
post #15 of 22
I was a little horrified by your first proposal...glad to see you chucked it. If you can prove that he's lying why offer any changes? There is still lots of room for more visitation in the current agreement- if he takes advantage of it. As far as the marriage thing...you might want to lay out some numbers for him. I think it sucks that you haven't been able to get married but if you did would be able to get the care Owen needs? I don't think you can bank on getting much of any medical reimbursement. Maybe he has it but ime it's really hard to collect. Sorry he slammed such a ridiculous piece of c$ap on you.
post #16 of 22
I think this looks better, but I'm still not sure you should offer Fridays, unless you think that 3 days will help Owen form relationships. Otherwise, I'd say 2 days, Saturday and Sunday -- I think that's pretty standard for weekend visitation. If you drive up on Thursday it will give you a day to spend with your family (am I right that they're in the same area?) and if something comes up where you want to take a mini vacation on one of your long weekends, you have the option of a "regular" weekend instead.

Also, I might set more specific boudaries about the phone calls -- a mutually agreeable time between (time 1/2 hour after Owen gets home to let him decompress a little) and (a hour before bed so his evening isn't disrupted). That way, he can't offer ridiculous times and then say "I offered lots of times, she wasn't cooperating."

By the way, congratulations on the marriage!
post #17 of 22
Steph I actually don't like these suggestions. I would stick to the one you initially gave to the court years ago (possibly adjusted for O's age)......

Honestly calls can only confuse O more when your ex does not do them, I would have to see O be in an on again off again situation with your ex. That will create confusion with O and Jason possibly and confusion for O just in general. Make it morew difficult when his dad is the flake he is......

Why are you not fighting for sole legal and physical with only 4,6,8, etc. visits per year when it's convient for you in your ex's state with unlimited daytime visitation in O's home home state with so much notice (i.e. 10 days notice in writing), etc.

I really like the idea of the gloves coming off..... Steph please think about how to avoid this threat from taking place again in the future. I know your heart is and always has been in the best of place but I think really now is as good a time as any to get both yourself and your son from under this man's thumb.

(all said from a bitter solo mama dealing with the drama from a man like O's dad so if I am too frank know that is where the tone difference is coming from today)
post #18 of 22
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No. He doesn't deserve long/overnight visits. If he actually gave a d*mn about this child he would be in his life CONSISTENTLY and making an effort to keep in contact with him.

I won't say anything more until after this is all over but we'll say I'm done with this crap and I'm pulling out the big guns now. The gloves have come off and I'm done playing nice.[/QUOTE]

You go girl! I hope you get a reasonable judge. Sadly, I have seen unbelievable crap like Avani's situation in my own friends' lives.
post #19 of 22
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Steph I actually don't like these suggestions. I would stick to the one you initially gave to the court years ago (possibly adjusted for O's age)......

Honestly calls can only confuse O more when your ex does not do them, I would have to see O be in an on again off again situation with your ex. That will create confusion with O and Jason possibly and confusion for O just in general. Make it morew difficult when his dad is the flake he is......

Why are you not fighting for sole legal and physical with only 4,6,8, etc. visits per year when it's convient for you in your ex's state with unlimited daytime visitation in O's home home state with so much notice (i.e. 10 days notice in writing), etc.

I really like the idea of the gloves coming off..... Steph please think about how to avoid this threat from taking place again in the future. I know your heart is and always has been in the best of place but I think really now is as good a time as any to get both yourself and your son from under this man's thumb.

(all said from a bitter solo mama dealing with the drama from a man like O's dad so if I am too frank know that is where the tone difference is coming from today)
I like LoveOhm's ideas here!
post #20 of 22
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I think this looks better, but I'm still not sure you should offer Fridays, unless you think that 3 days will help Owen form relationships. Otherwise, I'd say 2 days, Saturday and Sunday -- I think that's pretty standard for weekend visitation.
Obviously I will discuss all this with my lawyer, but for the past 3 years we have been offering Fri/Sat/Sun (sunday only until noon because we have to drive back to Kentucky). I can't see a judge agreeing to *less* time than we had been offering, ya know?

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Originally Posted by LoveOhm View Post
Steph I actually don't like these suggestions. I would stick to the one you initially gave to the court years ago (possibly adjusted for O's age)......

Honestly calls can only confuse O more when your ex does not do them, I would have to see O be in an on again off again situation with your ex. That will create confusion with O and Jason possibly and confusion for O just in general. Make it morew difficult when his dad is the flake he is......

Why are you not fighting for sole legal and physical with only 4,6,8, etc. visits per year when it's convient for you in your ex's state with unlimited daytime visitation in O's home home state with so much notice (i.e. 10 days notice in writing), etc.

I really like the idea of the gloves coming off..... Steph please think about how to avoid this threat from taking place again in the future. I know your heart is and always has been in the best of place but I think really now is as good a time as any to get both yourself and your son from under this man's thumb.

(all said from a bitter solo mama dealing with the drama from a man like O's dad so if I am too frank know that is where the tone difference is coming from today)
Thanks! Again, I'm not going to say too much here about our plan until all is said and done but know I am listening to all suggestion
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