Now he's peeing through everything!!

[cristeen]

I posted last week when he peed through his pf, but just figured it was a pf thing, since we hadn't had the problem with any of his fitteds. Then yesterday we went to Fry's... we were getting ready to go so i changed him and not 20 minutes later while being checked out, I was standing in a puddle with a soaked shirt and pants. I figured that since he was wearing a new fitted it just wasn't prepped enough... but he just woke up from a nap, DH picked him up and next thing you know, he's standing in a puddle. This time it was in an older fitted that we've been using for months.

What on earth do I do? Even when I put him in a PUL cover, it's soaked when I change him... but most of our stash is wool - is it now unusable? I have a lot of money invested in it... how can I resolve this??

[confustication]

Your wool is only going to be as good as the absorbency underneath it. I found that when my kids saturated through- it was time to go to the next size up with prefolds, and or add in a doubler.

[JTA Mom]

So he's only peeing through his fitteds? How is he when in a PUL cover & the new prefolds?

I'd add doublers. That's what I had to do with ds eventually. He'd hold his pee and pee all the cups of liquid he's had all morning out in one go. Sounds like your ds is doing the same.

I used a premium prefold and a pad folded flat. It was a bit bulkier but it could hold those super pees. In the fitted, I'd pad fold a flat and go for it. If you don't have flats, just pad fold a receiving blanket. They work the same, pretty much.

It is frustrating when they pee through everything. Ds can outpee a sposie too, so it's just something I've had to change around for, no matter what. At least with CDs you can increase absorbency.

Ami

[Katie T]

What detergent are you using? If you put water on one does it soak in right away? Are the diapers soaked and heavy? If all that seems fine I agree he might just need doublers!

[cristeen]

Originally Posted by confustication

Your wool is only going to be as good as the absorbency underneath it. I found that when my kids saturated through- it was time to go to the next size up with prefolds, and or add in a doubler.

Yeah, that's the problem... this is the next size up in PFs. We upsized specifically because he was soaking them.

Dream-eze were the only thing that could hold him, and now they're not holding him any more. How frustrating.

[MamieCole]

I'm assuming that the entire dipe is saturated?

Have you tried hemp doublers? Hemp is super absorbent.

[mumkimum]

Ditto on hemp doublers - particularly hemp fleece, they're the best.

I don't think there are any problems with your wool, you could try doing a heavier lanolizing treatment - may or may not help.

(does sound like he's probably holding his pee though - if you're up to it you could work in some casual EC when you do changes and it might help avoid issues like this too).

[cristeen]

Originally Posted by JTA Mom

So he's only peeing through his fitteds? How is he when in a PUL cover & the new prefolds?

Like I said, I posted the other day when he peed through his PF (coverless). With a PUL cover (Imse Vimse), the cover is quite wet when I take it off. It holds it all in, but then the cover has to be dried. I only have the 1 day-time PUL cover, and I'm only using it 1x/day right now (for his first thing in the morning pee - the one I know is going to be heavy).

Originally Posted by MamieCole

I'm assuming that the entire dipe is saturated?

No - he's peeing right through the diaper. With the Dream-Eze, that's 8 layers of OCF, and it was like so much paper. The dipe just had a wet spot on the front and I was soaked.

Originally Posted by mumkimum

I don't think there are any problems with your wool, you could try doing a heavier lanolizing treatment - may or may not help.

No - my wool has been soaked a lot lately, so I've been lanolizing pretty regularly thinking I just sucked at taking care of it... but now I'm thinking it wasn't me - it was his heavy soaking. I'm not blaming the wool - just wondering if I'm going to be able to use it anymore if he can just pee through it like paper.

Originally Posted by mumkimum

(does sound like he's probably holding his pee though - if you're up to it you could work in some casual EC when you do changes and it might help avoid issues like this too).

Any ideas on how to do this with an LO that screams when you get his bare butt near a potty? (he loves playing with it and flipping it upside down so long as he has a dipe on.)

To give you some idea - I put him in his night-time dipe tonight, and then he refused to sleep so he was up another half hour, and I wound up having to change him because he pooed. In 30 minutes or so he peed enough that the outside of his HH was wet - that's a tri-folded Bummis PF, a tri-folded UtN PF, and a folded in half (into his wet zone) Babykicks Hemparoo doubler, plus the 2 layers of hemp in the pocket. That's what... 16 layers of birdseye, 6 layers of OC knit, 3 layers of OCT, and 10 layers of hemp fleece. In 30 minutes. The kid can pee. I just have to figure out how to contain it without adding a ton of bulk to my tiny little guy, because sposies aren't an option.

[lunita1]

Gosh that sounds frustrating! When you said that the prefolds were already sized up, does that mean that they're big enough for you to need to fold some down in the front?

The only slight suggestion I have is to try a cover with exposed PUL (mother-ease, thirsties, bummis super bright, etc.). The imse vimse is PUL sandwiched between cotton, right? (I have an imse vimse, but it was from when my ELEVEN year old was close to potty training. I haven't looked to see if they've changed a lot since then.) Covered PUL seems comfier, but it gets wet and absorbs pee, so it smells after just one use & has to dry. An exposed PUL cover won't get soaked and won't get smelly after he soaks a diaper, so you can reuse it more and it won't wick as easily if you can't change him as soon as the pee shower happens. Also, instead of absorbing the pee that goes straight through, the pee will puddle on the plasticky PUL and get reabsorbed by the diaper instead of by your covers.

[lunita1]

Wait, I just remembered you said in the other thread that he was crawling, and that you're using red-edged GMD prefolds, right? FWIW, I find them only a little big on my average size 3.5 month old. He's wearing one right now, and can get it pretty darn wet pretty quickly. For a heavy wetter who's probably 6+ months older than him, I'd consider those to be properly sized, not sized up for extra absorbency. I'd try either premium (blue-edge -- maybe seconds from little lions) or the brown edged ones from GMD. Back when there weren't so many sizes of prefolds, my girls moved up to the blue-edged premium prefolds at about 4 months old. Those would give you lots more layers up front because you'd have to fold them down for a good fit.

[JTA Mom]

Originally Posted by cristeen

Like I said, I posted the other day when he peed through his PF (coverless). With a PUL cover (Imse Vimse), the cover is quite wet when I take it off. It holds it all in, but then the cover has to be dried. I only have the 1 day-time PUL cover, and I'm only using it 1x/day right now (for his first thing in the morning pee - the one I know is going to be heavy).

No - my wool has been soaked a lot lately, so I've been lanolizing pretty regularly thinking I just sucked at taking care of it... but now I'm thinking it wasn't me - it was his heavy soaking. I'm not blaming the wool - just wondering if I'm going to be able to use it anymore if he can just pee through it like paper.

To give you some idea - I put him in his night-time dipe tonight, and then he refused to sleep so he was up another half hour, and I wound up having to change him because he pooed. In 30 minutes or so he peed enough that the outside of his HH was wet - that's a tri-folded Bummis PF, a tri-folded UtN PF, and a folded in half (into his wet zone) Babykicks Hemparoo doubler, plus the 2 layers of hemp in the pocket. That's what... 16 layers of birdseye, 6 layers of OC knit, 3 layers of OCT, and 10 layers of hemp fleece. In 30 minutes. The kid can pee. I just have to figure out how to contain it without adding a ton of bulk to my tiny little guy, because sposies aren't an option.

Wow, and I thought ds was a heavy pee-r.

I think the wool isn't going to cut it. Unless it's one of those thick wraps that is heavily lanolized, but at that point, it's like a PUL cover anyways.

I don't really like GMD diapers that much. Ds can outpee their prefolds too. The only thing that held him were the old fashioned premium (blue edged) prefolds, folded down in the back, with a pad folded flat (at least 10 more layers of cotton) down the middle soaker zone. And I used PUL covers. Motherease Air flow fit my scrawny legged munchkin.

My ds sounds about the size of your ds at that age. He's still skinny and kinda long, with skinny thighs. At nearly 3 his waist barely fits into into a 2T, forget a 2. He needs suspenders!

Is he drinking lots of bottles/cups?

The reason I'm asking is that my ds can drink a lot. Fast. I try to space out the liquids a bit. Waiting even 30 minutes after a bottle or two would get ds to pee enough so his diaper could actually hold it. Ds could drink down 3 10oz bottles/cups of liquid in an hour too. He's like me in that regard--I need lots of liquid to feel hydrated and good.

As far as sposies--I went there. Didn't change the amount of leaking. If that many layers aren't holding him in, then a sposie wouldn't help anyways. I've gone from a completely dry sposie to super soaked and wet pants in 10 minutes.

Maybe spacing out the liquids with frequent changes and a bigger prefold, folded down in the back, will help? Gosh, it's frustrating.

Ami

[JTA Mom]

just thought....

do you not do any manmade fibers? a couple microfiber cloths from costco pad folded on outside of fitted/prefold might help, plus they wash easier than the inserts.

ami

[cristeen]

Originally Posted by lunita1

Wait, I just remembered you said in the other thread that he was crawling, and that you're using red-edged GMD prefolds, right?

Yeah, we have the red edge, which even so are too long for him. I don't get a full fold-down in the front, but I do have to fold it down some.

Originally Posted by JTA Mom

Is he drinking lots of bottles/cups?

He only gets maybe 4 oz at a sitting. And usually at least 90 minutes between.

Originally Posted by JTA Mom

do you not do any manmade fibers? a couple microfiber cloths from costco pad folded on outside of fitted/prefold might help, plus they wash easier than the inserts.

I prefer not to, but at this rate we may have to.

So, today he's peed through twice so far. Once on DH and once on me. I put him in a pocket fitted stuffed with a quad-folded doubler (8 layers OC/Hemp), plus another doubler folded in half (6 layers OC/Hemp), plus the 2 layers of the dipe (OCV). I changed him right before we went to the store and as we were coming out of the store and I took him out of the sling, I realized my shirt and pants were soaked.

It's not every pee, and it's not even every day. But it's often enough to be extremely frustrating. He didn't do it even once yesterday - but then we were in over 100 degree heat and we all wound up dehydrated by the time we got home.

I am planning to get rid of my 6 brand-new DE if things don't improve with a few more washings though. It's not always in that dipe, but it's much more likely to happen in that dipe.

[chely7425]

My boys go thru phases where they leak all the time... nothing seems to cause it and it doesn't seem to last. Like others have said, micro fiber has been a bit of a lifesaver for us during these times. I found my kids were just peeing so FAST that the natural fibers had a hard time soaking it all up. I have found a pocket or fitted with 1 hemp insert and 2 micro fiber works well.