Raw Food Co-Op in Venice raided and shut down :( - Page 2

[Arduinna]

No fear of gangrenous flesh? You're pushing it.

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by Arduinna

No fear of gangrenous flesh? You're pushing it.

No fear, in that it would cause disease in my body. Have you not heard of high meat? I don't think this is available at Rawesome though. Please remember, this is a whole different paradigm of health, if you can't agree with their terms then you wouldn't become a member of Rawesome. However, it is extremely doubtful that Rawesome would be selling meat with gangrene, the meat comes from highly ethical farms (owned by the members). However, do you not feel it is my right to consume whatever food I choose?

[Otto]

Originally Posted by Mirzam

Rawesome members and volunteers were held at gunpoint by Federal and County health officials and police for five hours, actually two individuals identified themselves as FBI and Canadian government agents. Why?

This very salient question is indeed why I forgot that the original post identified one of the local statutes. It's shaping up for me into a weird story.

As for being able to eat whatever one knowingly (or a reasonable approximation thereof) chooses for oneself, sure. I did not, however, note any codicil in the Rawsome oath regarding the nature of the transitivity of this relationship. It's the thin edge of an old wedge, and for someone like myself at a far remove, there seem to be more questions than answers available. (One that comes readily is oversight of slaughter and butchering, and, yes, I'm aware of the lack of USDA mobile abattoirs.)

[marija_jane]

After reading Gumpert's "The Raw Milk Revolution" I'm so fired up about this issue. It really is insane that so much govt. money, time, effort, and energy is being put into preventing people from eating whole, unprocessed foods of our own choosing. There are sooooo many better things they should be focusing on. Its just madening.

[Hedgehog Mtn]

This is the second raid of this type that I've heard of

I'm lucky in that we can grow most of our meat, veggies, raw milk etc but I really feel bad for the families who can't. I can't even imagine what it would be like to worry about a raid like this just for helping other families that choose to live the same way at their own risk.

[Elizabeth2008]

Originally Posted by Otto

As for being able to eat whatever one knowingly (or a reasonable approximation thereof) chooses for oneself, sure. I did not, however, note any codicil in the Rawsome oath regarding the nature of the transitivity of this relationship. It's the thin edge of an old wedge, and for someone like myself at a far remove, there seem to be more questions than answers available. (One that comes readily is oversight of slaughter and butchering, and, yes, I'm aware of the lack of USDA mobile abattoirs.)

Otto - are you aware of how many people have DIED in this country from eating contaminated meat and dairy products - products that are blessed by our USDA and all of its pathetic ability to oversee factory farming, slaughter and food handling? More than have been injured from raw milk, that's for sure. I feel safer consuming eggs, dairy and meat from farmers who take care in its production and provide a healthy and humane existence for their animals. I spent years working in government, and these agencies, particularly USDA are OWNED by Agribusiness. Most of the people working there come from Monsanto and big dairy. They are doing their bidding, pure and simple. That is all this is about. Americans need to demand that government agencies regulate industries, not work for them.

[kl5]

Here is a good article from David Gumpert that more clearly lays out Vonderplanitz's legal strategy. Intriguing for sure and definitely (to my ex-lawyer ears) sounds like it has a more solid grounding in property law.