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post #21 of 32
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Thanks, everyone, for your thoughtful responses. I am still on te fence.

I teach in an elementary school, and I am a special area teacher which means I see 700 kids a week. That is a LOT of germs. So man of them were sick with H1N1 and the regular flu last year. On top of that, Dd will be in grade school, and DS will be in preschool. DH works in a building with thousands of employess and is in various meetings with all kinds of people on a weekly basis. So, I feel like the chances of someone getting sick are fairly high. Neither DH or I were sick last yearm but the kids did get sick. DD worse than DS. I have been reading various reports and studies on the flu and H1n1 vaccines and I still have absolutely no idea what to do. I do know that you are at a higher risk when yiu are pregnant because you are already more susceptible to illness. I do take my vits and extra D, and keep up with the yogurt, but I am just still worried.

I am perfectly sure that i will not get it before 16 weeks. But, after that I am still unsure...
I'd go for the titre test then, and see if you already have antibodies. It would take away some of the guesswork anyway. Good luck! That's a tough situation.
post #22 of 32
I wouldn't get the h1n1 pregnant or not. I wish you luck in making the decision that is best for you and your baby.
post #23 of 32
I was almost on the fence, but hten 2 things made me not get it.
1. my best friend has 3 kids with CF which effects their lungs and their pulo. recommended against it.
2. A friend that works with germs and vac was preg and refused it and refused it for her 4 year old. She is almost by the cdc shot person, she only changes theirs in refusing to start till 4 months and not giving more then 1 shot at an time but goes back 1-2 weeks after the one shot for the other shot too.
post #24 of 32
Thread Starter 
Thank everyone. I totally appreciate the continual input. Dh and i have been discussing it like crazy. It is different for him, now, because I am the one pregnant. But, last year, and all previous years, he was always outspoken about his dislike/distrust of said vacs. Now, it is a different story. For both of us, really. But, I seriously feel like we NEED to be on the same page with this should something happen either way. He is worried about the potential meds i would need to take if I do get sick, I am worried about the chemicals in the vac to begin with. Oh, round and round in circles we go!
post #25 of 32
The H1N1 vaccine was clinically trialed in pregnant women. I have the link somewhere and can pull it up for you if you would like. I got mine over the winter with the kids, so I am not worried (after much study and changing my mind, I went from no never to doing it). But to answer the general question, yes I would get a vaccine during pregnancy if needed and depending on how the trials and studies looked on that vaccine and the risk of the disease at the time.

I have been looking at the different ways that DtaP has been used in pregnant women and there are studies showing that the P portion transferred antibodies to the fetus and protected them at birth. We also get the DTaP vaccine for our kids, and have talked to our doc about getting the first one at 4 weeks so that we got that protection completed before 4 months. With a DtaP 4 weeks before birth and a more european DtaP schedule, I think many babies could potentially be saved from neonatal pertussis. the AAFP just released a statement about the problems in CA with pertussis and authorized the use of DTaP at 4 weeks of age, so I think the US is moving in that direction.

So, long story short, I am keeping an eye on the studies being done concerning DTaP just before birth. But I doubt anything will be completed by January, but it would be a vaccine I would consider during pregnancy to protect my newborn.
post #26 of 32
No, I would not specifically get the H1N1 vaccine because NO flu vaccine is effective (statistically) in lowering the risk for getting the flu. To my mind that = unnescessary because it doesn't work.

I too work with kids and am exposed to a variety of interesting germs. Would it suck to get really sick while pregnant? Absolutely! Do I do what I can to minimize exposure via hand and face washing, yes! But, I just think the H1N1 "thing" was ginned up as artificially dangerous here in the states.

I would consider getting other vaccines if it were appropriate or necessary ie if there was an outbreak or I felt my risk of exposure was particularly high. I would go single dose, no merc, no alminum, and also none of the high allergy things and ONLY if the shot was okayed for infants. The H1N1 shot is NOT okay for an infant. I'm not sure about anyone else, but I'm pretty sure I'm pregnant with a infant baby.


Jenne
post #27 of 32
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I too work with kids and am exposed to a variety of interesting germs. Would it suck to get really sick while pregnant? Absolutely! Do I do what I can to minimize exposure via hand and face washing, yes! But, I just think the H1N1 "thing" was ginned up as artificially dangerous here in the states.

Jenne
I disagree to some degree. I had it (H1N1). I have never been so sick. I had an acquaintance lose her baby while pregnant related to the illness and another acquaintance lose her 2 year old. Neither of them had previously known health issues. I didn't either. It took me months to feel 100% after the week of 102-104 degree temps, lethargy, raging headaches and dehydration. I work with 0-5 year-olds with special needs and a lot of the them are medically fragile so I get why it is such an issue for them but it turns out it can reek havoc on perfectly healthy people as well. I think that it is viewed as a drummed up fear if you don't see the negative outcome first hand.

I had not had the flu shot nor did I provide it for my son. Fortunately I was able to quarantine myself enough for my family not to get sick. I am not sure what I will do now that I am pregnant. I have a hard time with no vax since I think it is a public health issue. I think it is important that there is reform around what is put in the vax but there are several alternatives to standard vax that do not have "as much" crap in them. I don't believe that children should have them (as newborns up to 6 mos or more) and I do not believe that there should be more than one shot given at a time. But there are resurgences of illnesses that were well managed. I think that the idea that the severe symptoms or even death in children and infants that have a childhood illness are only present in those that have a previous health condition gives a false hope that it could never happen to your healthy child but that is not true. Not likely but not true. I have a couple of kids that I treat that have acquired brain injuries related to what started as a simple childhood illnesses. I just think it's unfortunate that a lot of people view vaxing as an all or nothing prospect. I get it though. I would certainly prefer to have my kid vaxed with those that have none of the added crap.

I certainly recognize that I am by far a minority on MDC but for me is comes down to making a decision knowing that I would have to be OK with the outcome if my kid got super sick from something that is preventable vs dealing with the ramifications of vaxing. That's the same with any decision where there is a potential risk.
post #28 of 32
Thread Starter 
Carrie - If you could find the study I would love to read it, thanks! The more info the better.

I am kinda a germ-a-phobe. So, I carry my clean Well around with me everywhere, make the kiddos wash their hands endlessly, and I am certainly cautious with myself, especially considering the young and varied population i work with. But, similar to portlandmama, I saw my daughter get severely sick with H1N1 last year. Letharygy, 104 fever, and she, too, wasnt fully recovered for months, even though her symptoms were gone. Other studnts i know suffered in the same way. I just feel like it is worth considering giving that the 4 of us in our family will be, on a daily basis, exposed to many many people. That said, i still have not made up my mind. I am completely satisfied with how we do our current vax schedule for the littles (one at a time, about 6 mos apart, necessary ones first), it is the flu shot while pregnant, and for the littles actually, that i am still struggling with. I did get DD a flu vax when she was 1 because the doc really pushed for it and she was fine. But, never agaion for her or the DS. Seriously rethinking this position after DDs illness last year. I am so thankful that she is fully recovered and healthy. I cannot imagine what I would do if something happened to one of them because I didnt get them vaxed.

That is not to say that i fault anyone for not doing it, I am one who didnt do it. I am just rethinking this specific vax after personal experience.
post #29 of 32
Back when I was taking immunology I remember my professor, I wonderful man who spent his weekends donating his time at local hospitals, stressing how important it is to get immunized, not just for the health and wellbeing of you and your family but for the sake of others as well. Its called herd immunity (or herd inoculation in the case of immunizations). Its the principle that if most people have an immunity (either form contracting the disease or being inoculated against it) then it protects those who have not yet had the disease from contracting it. Unfortunately there are a VERY large number of children who do not have adequate nutrition or healthcare (especially in the school systems) and not only are you exposed to them but they are exposed to you. When you get a flu shot you lower the chance of those without access to quality healthcare being exposed, be it through direct contact with you or through your shopping cart at the grocery store, cash at the mall, etc. Just a thought, especially if you are working with children from disadvantaged communities. Living near a big city with a large immigrant population it has been heartbreaking hearing stories of children dying from H1N1 having never seen a doctor.
post #30 of 32
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Originally Posted by portlandmama View Post
I certainly recognize that I am by far a minority on MDC but for me is comes down to making a decision knowing that I would have to be OK with the outcome if my kid got super sick from something that is preventable vs dealing with the ramifications of vaxing. That's the same with any decision where there is a potential risk.
This.
post #31 of 32
I wouldn't get it. During flu season (well fall thur spring actually) I take vit c, fish oil & vit d & wash hands well, I kept a bottle of hand sanitizer by the door and we cleaned hands as soon as we stepped inside. My ds had th H1N1 but it was mild, I didn't get it at all, I was taking care of him.
post #32 of 32
I have had H1N1, so has my hubby and both my girls, so Im not getting it. I was offered both the H1N1 and the regular flu vaccine when I was at the clinic the other day and I declined both. I get sick every time I get a flu shot so Im def not doing it while pregnant.

Honestly, we only got H1N1 because an acquaintance from my hubby's work came over while sick and passed it to us. If I had known he was sick I would have said he couldn't come over (he didn't tell any of us) since I avoid having sick people around the girls. We don't do public school, daycares or anything of the like so the opportunity for the girls to catch it (and thus me to catch it) is limited. I just practice good hand washing and a good diet and let my immune system do the rest.
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