Breech worries - Page 3

[aikigypsy]

Mine has been all over the place in the past few weeks, but this morning I think he's head-down. Which would be good, because all this transverse-breech-oblique flipping that's been going on day and night for the past couple of weeks is NOT comfortable! I've been doing some spinning babies exercises, just the inversion and the back arching (I think it's called cat-cow or something like that), because until a couple of weeks ago he was hanging out mostly head up.

[Monkey Keeper]

For anyone who hasn't, I SO recommend massage! I have a friend who is an LMT as well as a doula and homebirth midwife. What a super combination!! She worked on me for quite some time this afternoon and says she's confident that my soft tissue/muscular/chiro issues are a large part of baby's position. Wow, were there some sore, tight spots in my hips!

She also said it's very clear that this boy is head up, back facing my right. One of his legs is extended across my belly to the left (the front leg) while the other leg is bent, foot down toward my cervix. He definitely has one had up near his head that he waves around.

I'm going to work on some inversions because he's nowhere near engaged--when I get into a knees-chest position, his bottom drops right out of my lower abs and I can cup it in my hand.

She also said that I have very little internal scar tissue from my c/s that she can feel, so it's not that that is forcing him head-up.

So BOTTOMS UP!!

[MacKinnon]

Yay Pink Bunch! I hope this works for you! Your babies position sounds very much like mine. ALTHOUGH, I have not been able to figure out position the last two days. I had a girlfriend over today who has been a L&D nurse and is usually awesome at identifying position. She couldn't figure it out either! We're thinking transverse, back up head on the left. This is very positive, since baby has been in the SAME position, very much like what you described PinkBunch, from early on. My chiro worked on me quite a while on Friday and baby has been super active all weekend. I'm uncomfortable, but thrilled, LOL!

Lots of heads down, bottoms up thoughts to everyone!

[Monkey Keeper]

Woot Carrie! Awesome to hear that babe has moved from the persistent breech position! Hopefully baby has decided to make way toward the exit... Have you decided what you will do should you get another couple weeks down the road?

[MacKinnon]

Originally Posted by PinkBunch

Woot Carrie! Awesome to hear that babe has moved from the persistent breech position! Hopefully baby has decided to make way toward the exit... Have you decided what you will do should you get another couple weeks down the road?

Well, baby has been sliding between transverse and breech all day today, I think when she/he slips transverse her head is tucking in, so we are feeling all back and no head. I'm positive that a change in position is a good thing, and I'm not even 34 weeks yet, so I have some time still!

As far as what we will do, our current plan is to meet with their OB back-up for a consult if baby's still breech at my 34 week appt. If I'm a candidate for a version I will probably go ahead and do one, but in the hospital with monitering, especially because of the anterior placenta. If baby doesn't turn head down as we get closer, I'm not entirely sure yet. Baby has been footling breech and the worry of cord prolapse, plus the long drive to the hospital (up to an hour in bad traffic), plus my history of big babies and quick labors, well... I would probably schedule a c-section. UNLESS baby is frank breech, so the cord prolapse is not a concern, and then I'm thinking I'll be more likely to let things go until labor begins, and confirm position at that point, and stay at the birth center. I think...

I'm mostly planning on the baby turning!

[Kelly1101]

*hugs* Hope it all turns out great! (no pun intended)

[mrsjtc]

Can I join the breech/transverse baby club?

My littlest girl is currently transverse, with her head pushing down into my hip. She's close but not head down yet. She is also approx. 5 lb. 8 oz on my ultrasound yesterday and I'm only 32 weeks.

I'm with a new doc this time who's a little more freak-out-ish than my previous doc. Hopefully she takes this news well and doesn't start pushing for more tests. I'm pretty done being poked and prodded. My 3 year old takes care of that for me, she loves my belly!

[MaerynPearl]

Mine STILL hasnt picked a position but Im not worried, shes moving pretty well in there still. Sometimes shes head down face down, sometimes I have no clue WHAT way she is pointing but obviously face up (probably transverse usually, maybe breech)

[Monkey Keeper]

I *think* we're transverse today. And with all the pain in my piriformis muscle, I think that may be due to some big changes in my pelvis/sacrum from the massage and chiro. At least it's all working it seems

I also have my girls talking to Baby Brother, telling him, "Bottom up, little boy!"

[MacKinnon]

We've been transverse for the last few days, heads to the left at the moment, as evidenced by the hiccups. It was to the right earlier today, I had big whopping kicks in my left side that was taking my breath away. I think baby is really trying to get into a more comfortable position. I almost feel badly that I keep messing with him/her, as baby has been moving SOO much more this last week. I had another chiro appt. today, he loosened the ligaments/muscles on my left side, last time it was the right that was tight. Now baby has swung over to the left, same thing happened the last time, he did the right, baby went to the right. Sigh... 34 week appt (and referral to the OB's) is Tuesday.

[Monkey Keeper]

Originally Posted by ilovemyavery

We've been transverse for the last few days, heads to the left at the moment...

Me too! Just saw my OB today, and she was really, really impressed that I knew exactly where to find him I guess the one bonus is that I'm getting pretty good at palpating myself. His head is so far to the left that it's on my side, no kidding. And I think he is either back down or spine-to-spine. I feel feet and hands in front, to the top AND down.

This is a big change from head up, under right ribs with back on right side. But it makes me think there's something keeping him from turning head down. I guess we shall see next Thursday--ultrasound with the MFM who is doing the version next Friday.

[MaerynPearl]

Mae is head down and engaged now! No more transverse!

[Monkey Keeper]

Originally Posted by MaerynPearl

Mae is head down and engaged now! No more transverse!

Lucky duck!

[MacKinnon]

Good job Mae! Now stay that way baby!!

I'm 95% sure we are back to the same stupid breech position. I was in at 32 weeks, breech, chiro adjusted at 32w6d, baby moved all over for a week, mostly transverse, but lots of movement. Adjusted again at 33w6d, baby flipped back up to breech and has mostly stayed put since Friday. I'll be 34w3d tomorrow, and baby has not been tumbling the last few days. Stretching, reaching, but still breech. Ugh... I suspect I'll be making a consulting appt. with the OB on Wednesday (my appt is at 6pm tomorrow).

[mkpgoddess]

Looks like I'm the newest member of this club, and I find out at almost 36 weeks Head is under my ribs, and butt is hanging out just above my pelvis. Looks like I'll be spending a LOT of time on spinningbabies....:sigh:

[MacKinnon]

Originally Posted by PinkBunch

I guess we shall see next Thursday--ultrasound with the MFM who is doing the version next Friday.

How far along will you be when they do your version? My midwife said they really want them settled in head down by 36 weeks, so 35 to 36 weeks. That just seems early to me and I worry about the possibility of an emergency c-section because of the version.

Also, it's a MFM that will do the version? Not an OB? I got the impression that it was the OB I'll be referred to that will do the version. Hmm... More questions to ask assuming baby is is still breech, I'm very sure he/she is.

[MacKinnon]

Breech, breech, breech, blah!! 34w3d, baby is in the same stupid position! Head up and on the right, butt down and off to the left, one obvious foot down low in my pelvis, I think the other one is up. So, it turns out their consulting OB does wait until 37 weeks for a version, so if baby is still breech at my 36w appt, two weeks from today, I'll make the consulting appt. for later that week. Usually an ultrasound is done to determine if I'm a candidate or if there is something precluding that option. Then, if I am a candidate, we'll schedule it for that 37th week.

They confirmed today that if baby is frank breech they will allow me a breech vaginal birth at the birth center, given my "proven pelvis." Of course, baby will have to get that foot out of the way to even consider this as an option. If baby stays footling, I don't have a choice. I have decided that if I have to go to the hospital, I will go with their back-up OB at that hospital. It's further than the ones closer to us, but they have a great relationship with the OB and she is a crunchy out of hospital birthing mama herself, she respects the midwives and they her. She does make a real effort to make a section a good experience, keeping baby with you, etc. I feel better knowing I would have that support, should I end up having to schedule for a footling breech (or choosing to schedule for frank- I have big babies, with BIG heads, and that does worry me).

[Monkey Keeper]

Originally Posted by ilovemyavery

How far along will you be when they do your version? My midwife said they really want them settled in head down by 36 weeks, so 35 to 36 weeks. That just seems early to me and I worry about the possibility of an emergency c-section because of the version.

Also, it's a MFM that will do the version? Not an OB? I got the impression that it was the OB I'll be referred to that will do the version. Hmm... More questions to ask assuming baby is is still breech, I'm very sure he/she is.

Hey...I didn't see this yesterday! Dunno why. I will be 36w4d. Supposedly 36w is splitting the difference--baby isn't so huge as to not want to turn but would be ready for the outside if absolutely necessary.

My OB prefers to have the MFM do her versions because of his experience. I know two of the HB backup OBs here do there own, but they're a lot more seasoned than my OB. They both also deliver frank breeches, and she offered that information--but I don't think I have it in my to transfer care AND go into my first (potentially) unmedicated birth knowing I also will be pushing out a breech baby.

The process sounds similar for me--u/s on Thursday to check it all out: position, cord, etc. Then the procedure is Friday morning (next week).

My guy still is ALL OVER the place. Dare I say I think he might be head down-ish today?? Not sure. He was definitely head up on my right yesterday after being totally, completely transverse earlier in the day.

I did go to a new chiro yesterday, and she was awesome. Her baby (9mo) actually was breech, and she exhausted all the alternatives before a 38w version! But she did get her HB, so she's satisfied. She agrees with everyone else--that he has plenty of room to turn.

Carrie, have you tried accu/moxi? That's my next plan. I actually have a call in to the MD that everyone recommends here, just waiting for a call back.

[MacKinnon]

They both also deliver frank breeches, and she offered that information--but I don't think I have it in my to transfer care AND go into my first (potentially) unmedicated birth knowing I also will be pushing out a breech baby.

I'm very so-so on the delivery of a frank breech babe as well. My midwives deliver at a free standing birth center and I have a history of big babies, and even bigger heads. This baby has been footling breech, so that might not even be an option, but I'm very not sure at this point that I will consider a vaginal breech delivery.

My guy still is ALL OVER the place. Dare I say I think he might be head down-ish today??

Yay! I hope he is! My baby has been breech the last couple days again, after being transverse for a few days. but the head never seems to go more than maybe, 3 o'clock, if my belly button is noon.

She agrees with everyone else--that he has plenty of room to turn.

Here too, on account of the third baby stetchy uterus syndrome, LOL Although I'm getting a litle tired of people saying "Oh, there's plenty of time and space for baby to turn!" Baby seems very not inclined to do so!!

Carrie, have you tried accu/moxi? That's my next plan.

Yep, I will be! Midwives suggested waiting about a week, week and a half, so I'm a little closer to 36 weeks. My plan is to go in late next week at 35 wk and 4 or 5 days. I'll have my 36 wk appt a few days later, and then, if needed, the appt. with the OB later that week at 36wk and 5d or so. Version would be early the next week, I'm guessing, around 37weeks.

[Monkey Keeper]

I think "third baby stretchy uterus syndrome" is what has us in this pickle in the first place!! My OB keeps teasing that if #2 hadn't been so big, this wouldn't be a problem But IF he is head down, which I'm thinking is possible but not likely, it would be the first time he too has moved from 3 o'clock or so. Hrmmm.

I go for my first accu treatment tomorrow afternoon, so I will keep you posted. I'm starting to get really nervous and posted a thread in the main I'm Pregnant forum for experiences. Just the unknown, ya know?

I think that's what bothers me the most. There are so many options at this point! Once I'm past the version, I think it will be clearer, but it's so frustrating trying to figure out what this birth is going to look like--scheduled c/s, wait-for-labor c/s, wait for labor and try to turn him again and maybe c/s, or good ol' vaginal delivery.