Originally Posted by serenbat
NO- you are NOT
to get it if your immune system is weakened - per the CDC (this is also stated by the manufacture on the product insert)www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/should-not-vacc.htmhas a weakened immune system because of
HIV/AIDS or another disease that affects the immune system,
treatment with drugs that affect the immune system, such as steroids,
cancer treatment such as radiation or chemotherapy,
a history of cancer affecting the bone marrow or lymphatic system, such as leukemia or lymphoma.
I feel you are overreading what you are seeing in these package inserts. I feel that many of the things on there are "covering their butts" in the way that they say measles vaccine can spread measles but we have yet to see it, kwim?
1- the vaccine does prevent shingles 50% of the time, we have ample evidence of this. does it prevent in all people? no. could it prevent for a period and then latent pox return-ie shingles? possibly, I suppose we will see in the follow up to the study I posted. But for now it seems preventative for a good many years in 50%-67% of those who get it.
2- people 80+ years many times have a number of issues that lead to a suppressed immune system- when compared to a younger adult especially. We see in the study I posted that the vaccine was given to people who had such issues seen naturally with age and it was tolerated well.
3- I fail to see in your "several" links of evidence where they state that someone who has the chicken pox vaccine in contagious ___ days before the vaccine caused rash breaks out. The first link is broken. The second link is the package insert that transmission to susceptable groups can happen post vaccination in those who develop a rash and that cases of nonrash transmission "have been reported" (but they have never been documented,) you can see this all over google scholar.
It's the same with the measles vaccine insert. It says theoretically you can pass measles after getting it, but it has not actually happened or ever been documented. So I would love to see actual evidence for the words you are using rather than a vague kind general statement.
also, many of your links in this thread are broken.