Help! Lots of suds in my FL even when using HE detergent?

[Marcy&Dono]

Hi, I recently started cloth diapering my 2yo. We're using gDiapers, with a mix of gCloth inserts and gFlappers from the Nappy Shoppe (mostly help + microfiber).

We also just moved into a new house we're renting which came with a front-loading washer. I've been pretty happy with the washer so far... but am frustrated about finding what kind of soap to use. I seem to be getting LOTS of suds, even when using HE detergents (I'm using both Dropps Baby and All Small & Mighty Free & Clear, both of which I saw were rated highly for use with cloth diapers in charts I found online), and I use only about 1/2 the recommended amt of soap. The thing is, even during the extra rinse I notice a good deal of suds still in the water. I thought HE detergents were supposed to be "low sudsing" so why all the suds still? Are some He detergents more "HE" than others? Or is this just normal? Do I need to run a full second wash cycle w/o soap to fully rinse them out? I think we also have hard water, if that makes a difference...

Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks!!

[alfabetsoup]

Well, the thing about front loaders is that you can SEE the suds while it's washing, and they use less water so it looks like more suds. Does it have an "extra rinse" function? I'm in europe so my FL might be a bit different, but I run a cold "quick wash" (no detergent OR a scoop of oxy) then a hot wash (small amount of detergent) with extra rinse. No build-up issues, no smelliness (especially when I can dry them outside!)

[Katie T]

How much soap are you using? Sometimes you only need 1/4 of what they call for. Depending on how much you are using I would try using a bit less.

I have always had to do several rinses (I do hot washes with no soap as hot water removes detergent much better than cold).