Magnesium Oil?

[FairyRae]

Not sure if you all have discussed this and I missed it, but just wanted to share this info and get all of your thoughts on it! It seems very 'natural' to me, in that swimming in certain sea/ocean water would probably have similar benefits/effects...

Just fyi, I'm cutting/pasting most of this from my superfood/supplements/preconception plan thread (please come over and give me your thoughts ladies! )



Woo hoo--magnesium supp I'm planning to try (on the rec. of another MDC mama--thanks Beth!) is magnesium (chloride) oil. From what I've read, it's even better absorbed/utilized than epsom salts (not sure this is true or not) and can be cheaply made at home. The site I was reading about it on described using it on the skin being similar to what it would be like to swim in mineral rich water (totally traditional IMO! )

Here is some info on it: http://www.silvermedicine.org/magnesium-chloride.html

When faced with the possibility of a magnesium deficiency, most people would simply seek a prescription from a medical doctor, or perhaps simply go to the local vitamin and supplement store to get an internal magnesium supplement, maybe in the form of capsules, tablets, or perhaps even a powder. While supplementing with magnesium citrate may be an option, there are several points that need to be carefully considered.

Magnesium is very poorly adsorbed through the digestive tract
Some extreme cases of magnesium deficiency completely resist oral supplementation
Even when serum levels may show normal levels of mangesium, this is not a guarantee that magnesium is actually available at a cellular level, where it is needed the most
Even when successful, oral supplementation can take up to six months to correct the imbalance, and even then, there is no guarantee that the magnesium is availble where it is needed most (due to severe body disfunction caused by the deficiency)
Luckily, there is a safe, effective, and affordable way to deliver magnesium into the body... One is which as natural and has been used by humankind since before recorded history: Magnesmium chloride.

Using magnesium chloride transdermally results in the rapid cellular-uptake of magnesium through the skin. By bypassing the digestive system all together, one does not need to focus on the many digestive problems that may hinder the biovailability of magnesium.

Magnesium oil is made by rehydrating magnesium chloride crystals; just enough water is added to create a very light oil-like substance. In actually, there are no oils present in magnesium chloride oil.

A small amount of magnesium chloride may then be massaged or rubbed into any area an individual feels needs treatment.

The most affordable way to acquire transdermal magnesium chloride is to purchase food grade Nigari flakes. Simply fill a plastic "drip" bottle with magnesium flakes, and hydrate with high quality water (or colloidal silver). Keep the bottle filled with magnesium flakes, and refill the water inbetween uses. There is no need to actually work the flakes into a pure oil unless planning to resell... Maximum saturation will eventually be achieved, although it may take a few weeks for complete saturation.

Individuals can elect to buy "Magnesium Oil" or "Transdermal Magnesium Oil" from retailers. However, there are definately quality concerns and there is a great deal of unsubstantiated hype associated with different brands.

More on the transdermal mag chloride stuff:
http://magnesiumforlife.com/transder...h-transdermal/

http://www.worldwidehealthcenter.net/articles-358.html
Interesting:

According to Daniel Reid the Epsom salts some people take as a magnesium supplement contains magnesium sulfate, which is rapidly excreted through the kidneys and therefore difficult to assimilate. This would explain in part why the effects from Epsom salt baths do not last. Whole sea salt contains magnesium chloride and magnesium bromide, which are easily assimilated and metabolized in the human body.

The bottom line is that transdermal magnesium therapy speeds up the process of nutrient repletion in much the same was as intravenous methods. Like intravenous, transdermal application of magnesium can deliver higher doses of this key mineral to the cells. Bypassing digestion allowing for deeper tissue saturation.

How to make magnesium chloride oil: http://www.ehow.com/how_5637686_make...oride-oil.html

Another tutorial (this one seems to be more theraputic/potent): http://www.ehow.com/how_5918363_make...-oil-pain.html

It mentions:

Purchase nigari flakes at an Asian food market or online. Nigari flakes are magnesium chloride derived from sea salt and are usually used for making tofu. A one-pound container typically costs less than $2.

Here is an online resource for nigari flakes (under $2 a lb!): http://www.naturalimport.com/inc/sdetail/6922

http://magnesiumforlife.com/transder...magnesium-oil/

With magnesium oil, the concentrate can simply be applied to the skin or poured into bath water, and in an instant we have a powerful medical treatment. Intensive transdermal and oral magnesium therapy can be safely applied day in and day out for consistent health benefits. Magnesium oil is nothing short of a miracle to a person deficient in magnesium. So clear and observable are the effects that there is no mistake, no mysticism, no false claim made.

Daniel Reid, author of Tao of Detox says, “Using magnesium oil is the quickest and most convenient way to transmit magnesium chloride into the cells and tissues through the skin. 2-3 sprays under each armpit function as a highly effective deodorant, while at the same time transporting magnesium swiftly through the thin skin into the glands, lymph channels, and bloodstream, for distribution throughout the body. Spray it onto the back of the hand or the top of the feet any time of day or night for continuous magnesium absorption. Regardless of where you apply the spray on the body, once it penetrates the surface of the skin, the body transports it to whichever tissues need magnesium most.”

I've also read some folks saying it burns the first few times they tried it--so if you try it, go slowly! I'll certainly lyk what happens if/when we try it!

[FairyRae]

Ok, I just visited JaneS's WAHMarket, and found all sorts of good stuff (go Jane!), but specifically Jane's opinion on magnesium oil, which I thought would fit in well w/ this thread...

And she also has this to say a/b magnesium oil:

Ancient Minerals Magnesium Oil

This is another product I cannot live without... and the Ancient Minerals Oil form of magnesium is the best absorbed, doesn't alter gut function (doesn't give you the runs!) and is third party tested to be pure.

Magnesium is one of the lowest minerals in the standard American diet. It's hard to get a lot of this nutrient... and the benefits of magnesium supplementation are great. (Or should I say the deficiency of magnesium causes many health problems.) For digestion, the heart, the brain, the teeth and bones. Magnesium supports the function of hundreds of enzymes in the body.

Personally it helps me completely relax and handle stress on a day to day basis. I honestly cannot believe the difference in my personality and mood during what is clearly the most difficult time in my life (going thru divorce). I also use it on my son and am trying to get his stores stocked up since he probably inherited his deficiency from my depleted body. He is even more of a happy guy and sleeps so well when using this!

For more info see Dr. Carolyn Dean's book The Magnesium Miracle and Marc Sircus OMD's Transdermal Magnesium Therapy.

I'm probably goint to X-post this in H&H--I'd never really heard of this b/4 and am so excited to try it!

[JaneS]

I also got my RBC magnesium levels tested and I'm finally in the normal range ... I was very low twice before. The only thing different is the mag. oil and also I've been alternating with epsoms salts b/c I also need the sulfur (to process salicylates).

I stopped mag. by mouth. It was interfering with my intestines regardless of low little I took and spread thoughout the day. Obviously I was not absorbing it. I did recently start with magnesium chloride by mouth that that is okay at lower doses: Nutricology. And 200 mg. of magnesium glycinate is sometimes okay but sometimes gives me loose stool. That was after testing.

[JaneS]

RBC is red blood cell testing, more accurate than standard blood testing for minerals which is known to be pretty useless.

[tanyalynn]

We bought some mag oil for DH a while back and didn't stick with it. For us, the amount of skin you need to get the dosage of mag was significant and inconvenient, in terms of how long it takes to dry, and DH tolerates oral supps just fine, and back when we did that regularly, his BP went down, so he was absorbing the magnesium and putting it to good use. And price-wise, I think our oral supps are cheaper per dose (I admit we didn't stick with the mag oil long enough to calibrate the dosage of mag oil to oral mag supp, since I'm not sure they'd be 1:1).

[lissybeth74]

We have the Ancient Minerals mag oil. I remember reading that you only needed it on the skin for 15 minutes or so for it to have an effect, iirc. I've been spraying on then wiping off after a while... I didn't particulary like the all day 'oil' feel. Maybe I was wrong to do this though... ?

[FairyRae]

Wow--thanks for the input mamas! We'll see how I like using it. I ordered nigeri flakes and plan to make my own to use. I didn't realize it might take a long time to absorb/soak in...good to know. I *plan* on putting it on right b/4 bed--maybe this will help me not notice/be annoyed by it?

I personally do not like taking oral mag--it makes me feel sooooooooo tired, even in small doses. Never makes me have loose stools, but I just don't feel optimal taking it. (I've mostly tried mag citrate, from natural calm or other supps.) DH feels crappy taking it orally as well, and I think he may be severely mag deficient--he's got lots of anxiety issues, trouble sleeping, all sorts of stuff going on.

How much do you all use/put on? I thought like an oz. would be sufficient, from my reading. (I'm planning on making a pretty concentrated type, by filling a bottle w/ nigeri flakes then saturating w/ water.)

Just wanted to add, I have sulfation pathway issues, and WuWei posted a/b the benefits of epson salts in my crosspost in H&H, so doing mag sulfate cream or epsom salt baths will be important for me to continue as well.

[lastrid]

I just got my nigari flakes in the mail. I'm about to go and take a bath with my sons right now....