Are allergies tied to vaccines?

[monkeybum]

I've read in a few places recently that there is a theory that the increase in allergies is tied to the increase in vaccines, and in particular, the increase in peanut allergies is due to the presence of peanut oil in the Hib vaccine, and that peanut allergies skyrocketed right around the time the Hib vaccine was added to the routine vax schedule.

Has anyone heard about this? It kind of makes sense - the theory is that you are stimulating an unnatural immune response by vaccinating with so many viruses at once, and your body then creates an "out of whack" immune response to certain ingredients in the vaccine.

It's kind of like you're messing with the immune system and then injecting trace amounts of peanut oil in to the blood stream?

There is a doctor somewhere in the U.S. who treats vaccinated and unvaccinated children. In his many years of practice he has treated over 35,000 unvaccinated children and doesn't have any cases of allergies, asthma, ADD or autism in his unvaccinated population, but plenty in his vaccinated population. He is not saying the two are related, (could be other factors that makes this the case) but he is saying it certainly merits further study.

I think the National Vaccine Information Centre is fundraising to do a study of this nature.

Just wondered - and I haven't researched it thoroughly, but I wondered - how many people/children on here have anaphylactic allergies (actual reactions have confirmed this not just testing) and have never been vaccinated?

[KimPM]

DS is unvaccinated and has had different reactions to many foods. He may also be on the spectrum. I don't think you can pin all this on vaccinating.

[delightedbutterfly]

I do have a feeling that the early vaccines my first child had CONTRIBUTED to her allergies. However it is different than the theory you posted.

I do not believe her allergies were caused by the vaccines however.

My feeling (and I have seen/read supporting evidence) is that the 2, 4, and 6 month vaccines she recieved were too much too soon and therefore overwhelmed her gut. And did some damage so that she was not able to properly handle the proteins and reacted to the food. None of her allergies have proved to be anaphylactic as of yet and she has managed to "outgrow" (or what I believe her gut has been able to heal and mature and now accept and process the culprit proteins) most of her allergies. She is down to one and a half allergies and I believe that when we challenge them next year she will be strong enough to handle the proteins.

We quit vaxing at 6months and I am on the fence about what to do. We will most likely be selective and continue to delay with any vaxes from here on out.

Our younger DD has not had any vaxes and despite also have eczema has been able to tolerate the allergenic foods our first DD reacted to at an earlier age. However we did keep her on a slow introduction, fairly allergy free diet for a fair period of time.

So yes I think vaccines contribute to allergies by weakening the gut. But I don't believe that vaccines CAUSE allergies.
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[BirthKathy]

My son is 14 months old and has never been vaccinated.

He has tested positive for many allergies, and has reacted to many foods with hives, eczema, and facial swelling. No breathing problems ever.

I have often thought that it would have been easy to blame his issues on vaccines, because his symptoms started at 4 months, and got worse from there.

[FireWithin]

I've seen too many kids here on this crunchy board with many allergies who have not been vaxed.

That said, I think they can really mess up an already weak system. So I do think they are a piece to the puzzle, but not the entire thing.

[mamafish9]

Originally Posted by monkeybum

There is a doctor somewhere in the U.S. who treats vaccinated and unvaccinated children. In his many years of practice he has treated over 35,000 unvaccinated children and doesn't have any cases of allergies, asthma, ADD or autism in his unvaccinated population, but plenty in his vaccinated population. He is not saying the two are related, (could be other factors that makes this the case) but he is saying it certainly merits further study.

I've heard this before - but there's absolutely no statistical way that could possibly be true. Large data studies find plenty of ADD/autism/allergies in non-vaxed populations, in fact, most studies show very little impact of vaccines on these issues. Not saying the studies are right, just that you will find these issues if you see 1000's of unvaxed kids.

My son has autism and food reactions, and he is 3rd generation non-vaccinated. My sisters both have children with peanut allergy - again, 3rd generation non-vaccinated.

I believe vaccines, along with metals, viruses, infections, toxic chemicals, etc can all tip a fragile system over the edge, resulting in lots of different issues. Some kids, like my son, are a lot more fragile than others. But anyone who thinks unvaxed kids have no diseases or issues hasn't looked very hard

[lnitti]

my dd2 is allergic to peanuts, tree nuts, soy, dairy. She has had no vaccines.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by mamafish9

I've heard this before - but there's absolutely no statistical way that could possibly be true. Large data studies find plenty of ADD/autism/allergies in non-vaxed populations, in fact, most studies show very little impact of vaccines on these issues. Not saying the studies are right, just that you will find these issues if you see 1000's of unvaxed kids.

My son has autism and food reactions, and he is 3rd generation non-vaccinated. My sisters both have children with peanut allergy - again, 3rd generation non-vaccinated.

I believe vaccines, along with metals, viruses, infections, toxic chemicals, etc can all tip a fragile system over the edge, resulting in lots of different issues. Some kids, like my son, are a lot more fragile than others. But anyone who thinks unvaxed kids have no diseases or issues hasn't looked very hard

I agree with this....Which is precisely WHY I choose NOT to vaccinate my DS. I believe his system is already fragile. He is at a higher risk of adverse reactions. I believe they play a role but are not the soel cause

[triscuitsmom]

Originally Posted by mamafish9

I believe vaccines, along with metals, viruses, infections, toxic chemicals, etc can all tip a fragile system over the edge, resulting in lots of different issues. Some kids, like my son, are a lot more fragile than others. But anyone who thinks unvaxed kids have no diseases or issues hasn't looked very hard

I agree.

Neither of my kids have ever had even one vaccine. My older has significant food issues, possible SPD and asthma. The younger one had significant respiratory issues during his first year (persistent apnea of unknown cause), has one serious drug allergy at least, and allergies or intolerances to foods as well. While I don't think that making their systems work harder by vaccinating would be good for them it isn't the main reason I don't vaccinate. Nor did I ever for one second think that by not vaccinating I would get a kid that was definitely going to not be on the spectrum or have asthma or allergies. In fact, given the family history, I considered all three of those things to be likelier for my kids then for the average kid.

[WC_hapamama]

My food allergic kids are vaccinated (albeit selectively), but their allergies manifested themselves BEFORE their first set of vaccinations.

Granted, we have a family history of allergies, asthma and eczema on both sides that goes back 4 generations, so for us heredity is more of an issue than environmental toxins.

[keegans_mommy]

I have 2 kids who've never been vax'd and both have at least 2 food allergies.

[NicoleLee]

My daughter is not vaccinated and showed severe eczema at 5 months or so. She continues to have severe eczema and allergies at age 2. I do believe most of it is her immune system not working properly. We have seen a naturopath that has helped and we are now seeing a chinese herbalist.
The book Healing Today's Childhood Epidemics: Allergies, Asthma, Autism, and ADHD by Dr. Kenneth Bock is the Dr who sees all children with these problems and has even healed children with Autism. The book is a great read. He too firmly believes vaccinations may not be the cause of the 4 A's, but certainly one of factors. His website is www.rhinebeckhealth.com

[dannic]

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I believe vaccines, along with metals, viruses, infections, toxic chemicals, etc can all tip a fragile system over the edge, resulting in lots of different issues. Some kids, like my son, are a lot more fragile than others. [/QUOT

My dd has intolerances and when we were figuring it all out so much of it was autistic in nature that I thanked God that we had not vaxed her. Some children will be more susceptible. I do believe that vax can contribute, but in our case (gratefully) it was not part of the equation.

[lastrid]

[QUOTE=dannic;15632615]

Originally Posted by mamafish9

I believe vaccines, along with metals, viruses, infections, toxic chemicals, etc can all tip a fragile system over the edge, resulting in lots of different issues. Some kids, like my son, are a lot more fragile than others. [/QUOT

My dd has intolerances and when we were figuring it all out so much of it was autistic in nature that I thanked God that we had not vaxed her. Some children will be more susceptible. I do believe that vax can contribute, but in our case (gratefully) it was not part of the equation.

I totally agree with this. I can't imagine how badly affected my son would be if we had vaccinated him. I believe that God led me to the info to not vax him in the first place.

[Drummer's Wife]

My 3rd child, who has never been vaccinated, has allergies (including peanuts), eczema, and possibly asthma. My older two who were vaccinated have no allergies. My 4th has never received a vaccine, and so far he doesn't seem to be allergic to anything. So, IME, I don't see vaccines as causing allergies; however, I do agree with the theory that children who are prone to allergies, asthma, etc., are more likely to be sensitive and possibly react to the ingredients in vaccines. I am grateful my allergic child never had to test that theory.

[JaneS]

Non-vaccinated anaphylactic reaction to sesame (& gets contact hives from peanut) DS here.

I think it's GMO soy that is causing the increase in peanut and other serious allergies as explained in Robyn O'Brien's book, "The Unhealthy Truth".