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Visitation at FP's House!? (sorry, it's a novel!)

post #1 of 5
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We recently (ish!) moved to a new province, and I'm not even going to get in to the absolute gong show that attempting to "transfer" foster parenting standing is from one province to another (ie: it's not possible!). So, we're going through the application process, again. We're also taking the local training course (also a total gong show with no room for adaptation to suit individual needs, but I digress).
I am/was quite keen to find out what might be different about how things are run here, and my ears certainly perked up when the topic of visitation came up. I'm totally appalled at how it works here. A friend is refering me to a friend of hers who is a current fp here, because I wanted to talk to someone who is living the experience, and I did leave a message with the social worker, but, whoa. I'm hoping this is a case of policy and reality being a bit misaligned.
Apparently, visitation is always, except in extreme cases, carried out at the home of the foster parent. For children under age two, daily visitation is the goal/norm. They talked about one family who had the birth mother come over every morning to dress and feed the child, and then came back again for dinner and to bathe and put the child to bed. This was presented as the absolute ideal situation, and again, the fact that daily, in home visitation is expected was stressed. When the idea of out of home visitation was brought up, it was clearly communicated that this would be "bad", and that you would be a "bad" fp if this was what you insisted upon.
What?!!?
Granted, we only had one placement in our old province (two brothers), but their visitation was social worker supervised, or, in some cases, supervised by the paternal grandmother. We took them about once a month, and the rest of the visits were organized so that the boys were taken from daycare to the visit and then returned to daycare afterwards, where we would pick them up after work according to our normal schedule. I'm an at home parent now, so things will be a bit different. I do believe in visitation. You can bet your booty that I'd be visiting my child every day if she was in care, so I can totally understand wanting to have that sort of set up. However, kids are in care for a reason!
I'm completely NOT comfortable having birth parents both know where we live and showing up on our doorstep every day. I know that foster care involves visitation, and re-orgaizing your schedule a bit to make that work, but I am not at all willing to being home every night by xyz time, having everyone fed and the foster child prepped for a visit.
I can, to a certain degree, imagine dropping a foster child off from 10-12 or 2 or whatever in a safe space on most days of the week. Say, on weekdays. But, seriously, how am I supposed to integrate a child into my family's life if we don't have the freedom to, say, spend an extra hour at the zoo if everyone is happy?
And, I'm just having issues with the idea of safety and boundaries surrounding the idea of having a birth parent IN MY HOME on a daily basis. How are you supposed to enforce family rules if the birth parent is there and undermines you (ie: birth parent saying something like, "No, Johnny, you don't need to eat at the table", when that is the rule at our house) in your "parental" role? We don't believe in seperate rules for seperate kids, as a general rule, and we certainly believe that, while they are with us, foster children are part of our family and will be treated as such. Not that we don't make allowances and accomodations depending on ability/need/challenge levels. Anyway, I just can't get my head around this.
Is this normal? Am I way off base here? Does this sort of set up WORK for anyone on here? We're really keen to foster again, and I don't want to jeopordize that by being too demanding right off the bat, but at the same time, I don't want us to wind up in a situation that is not going to work and be healthy for our family. Surely there's a way to make this work?! Thoughts?
post #2 of 5
That's nuts, IMO. I have never heard of that. Even when a kid is about to be RU here, the visits aren't every day, they are like twice a week, with weekend visits and stuff. Is someone official telling you this, or another FP? I would get it from the official people first. It sounds unbelievable to me.
post #3 of 5
Thread Starter 
This is the official line from the social workers who lead the fp training here. I'm glad someone else thinks this is absurd. I was starting to feel a little crazy.
post #4 of 5
hmmm, I'm from the US, and in my area visits are at most weekly. but I actually think this is an awesome idea.

It certainly would be hard on the family providing the care in a couple of ways that you've outlined; the thing is, foster kids on reunification plans are not the foster family's kids--provided that dangerousness has been assessed and found not an issue, it's not really fair in my thinking to say that real families can't visit their sons and daughters because it disrupts the foster family's routine; the goal of foster care in reunification cases is to restabilize the family...

I'm not a foster parent; I did do foster to adopt (about 8 years ago). I couldn't do foster care the way it is run here, but if the parents were visiting as much as they wanted, so I didn't feel like a baby thief or a part of a system of power that harms as much or more than it helps (by breaking apart families more because they are poor than for any other reason), I might consider it.

I wonder if you would be allowed to limit visits to morning time and after dinner or something--times when you'd already be home, so your schedule wouldn't be disrupted?

One question I do have is around transportation: when I worked in the system, many parents had a hard time getting to visits because they didn't have cars or money for the bus...wonder how it is that in Canada these families can swing this? It seems to me that it would be great if the system could fund/provide transportation for the families so as not to create barriers to stabilization...but I guess that is off topic.

edited to add: I am not accusing foster families of baby theft! I know in most cases fostering is done out of dedication to children's causes...but the children in foster care, and their families, often feel like it is kidnapping, so I was coming from that perspective.
post #5 of 5
That's definitely shared parenting at the far end of the spectrum. I went to several workshops facilitated by a foster parent (and trainer) from somewhere in the Northeast. She had visits (when safe) at her home and showed us some videotapes. It was really wonderful. They weren't every day, though.

I went to my son's grandmother's house (where his birth mother was also living some of the time) many times while the kids (my son and his two sisters) were in care. I would also have been comfortable having them in my home. Neither one was (or is) a danger to children. I wouldn't want to have them (or anyone really) in my home every day but if it was required, I could make it work.

I suspect that in the OP's area, that the high level of contact is a goal but is rarely (if ever) implemented to that degree.
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