honey in whole grain bread

[thomatuttle]

so i wanted to give my daughter some whole grain bread to try (she's 9 months) so i gave her a little nugget, then remembered that they're not supposed to have honey before they're 1 even if it's been baked into something. i checked the ingredients on my bread and sure enough there was honey in it. i checked the other whole grain breads i have in the house and they all have it, which is making me think that probably most whole grain breads have honey in them. so what do i do now? do i wait til she's a year to start bread, does anyone know of any whole grain breads without honey? i live in a small town and there aren't many options for good quality breads.

[mamadelbosque]

Honey is fine as long as its not raw... its fine baked in things.

[Knitting Mama]

Here is a good article that talks about how botulism spores can be present even in cooked honey and baked goods made with honey:

http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com/inf...ulismhoney.htm

On the one hand, it seems like botulism is very hard to kill without highly pasteurizing honey. On the other hand, cultures around the world have given honey from early ages with no issues at all. I think that if you lean towards one way or another in the honey debate, you'll probably be able to find research that backs up your stance.

[1blueheron]

bread is not an anaerobic environment

[cristeen]

Originally Posted by mamadelbosque

Honey is fine as long as its not raw... its fine baked in things.

Baking or steaming or even boiling will never get your average food over the boiling point of water (212 F). Botulism isnt killed until somewhere around 260. If botulism is the big concern (and supposedly it is) then baked goods containing honey are not safe. Only items that have been cooked under pressure (ala pressure canning) would reach temps over 212.

[mamadelbosque]

Whatever. If honey were half as big a risk as some people make it out to be people should be dropping like flies from botulism. And yet I for one have never even heard of someone actually coming down w/ said botulism. Let alone have it traced back to honey. Neither of my kids ate solids till well after 7 or so months, and from then on they had everything I did. Its just so not something I for one am the least bit worried about.

[EmTheWife]

Could you make your own bread? It's really pretty simple (flours, warm water, oil, yeast; mix - 10 mins, knead - 3-5 mins, let rise, form 3-5 mins, let rise, bake @375 for 35 mins); active time is only about 20-30 mins, and you can control exactly what's in the bread, even adding whole grains.

[cocoanib]

I wouldn't worry about the little bit she did have. If your'e worried about it for the future, try making some homemade. You can put whatever you like in it and be sure to leave out the honey.