New Study Shows Vaccines Cause Brain Changes Found in Autism

[greenmom17]

http://www.ageofautism.com/


Thought I'd share for those who may be interested!

[chaoticzenmom]

interesting. I wonder what will come of it.

[not_telling]

Just to clarify for myself...(I'm not well versed in vax history )

Are they saying that in the 1990's all three vaxes (HiB, DTaP and MMR) contained thimerosol?

Were the monkeys given vaxes in addition to these three?

[nia82]

MMR never had thimerosal as far as I know. But all the other ones did. HepB, DTaP, etc....

[Sileree]

Prior to the '90s only DTP had mercury in it. The oral polio and MMR did not have mercury in it as they were live vaccines. Kids got three or four doses of DTP. These three were the only vaccines routinely given.

Then in 1990 or 1991 they added three doses of Hep B and three or four doses of Hib, of which most had mercury in them.

[ASusan]

The entire current issue of that journal - Acta Neurobiologiae Experimentalis -
is devoted to Autism research. Click on the link and look to the right of the page for all the articles, including one on the role(s) of heavy metals:

We argue that scientific research does not support rejecting the link between the neurodevelopmental disorder of autism and toxic exposures.

and mercury, specifically:

The weight of scientific evidence supports Hg as a causal factor in subjects diagnosed with an ASD.

Two other articles address mercury specifically.

and one looks at the role of acetaminophen:

(No good quote from the abstract, and I haven't had time to read the entire article. I've read other work by the author, however, and some of it is compelling.)

[not_telling]

I did get a chance to look through some of the articles. There is one that does support the "mainstream" conclusion that there is NO link between mercury and autism. The article from the Editor makes a point of noting that there's still disagreement on this issue.

I only skimmed the acetominephin (sic) one...looks like it's not a study per se...more just citing reasons why this could be a plausible theory.

[Lisa1970]

Originally Posted by nia82

MMR never had thimerosal as far as I know. But all the other ones did. HepB, DTaP, etc....

Flu shot has it in it. My son was fine and wonderful. He got the flu shot one day, his first ever. Within a very short time, he started to just scream and scream. Then he would go over and sweep with his arms while screaming everything off shelves.

I am frustrated. I definitely feel it is the flu shot because of the timeline of how things happened. He is almost 9 now.

[SweetSurrender]

Originally Posted by Lisa1970

Flu shot has it in it. My son was fine and wonderful. He got the flu shot one day, his first ever. Within a very short time, he started to just scream and scream. Then he would go over and sweep with his arms while screaming everything off shelves.

I am frustrated. I definitely feel it is the flu shot because of the timeline of how things happened. He is almost 9 now.

So sorry to hear that Lisa. That's really awful... how old was he when he got that shot?

[newmum35]

had some trouble finding which article you were referring to since it is now the 20th but here it is in case anyone needs:


http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/07/n...in-autism.html

[Angela512]

I think the issue is that people are claiming that thimerasol causes autism. But, if you look at mercury poisoning...the symptoms of mercury poisoning mirror autistic tendencies.

The children who have no "issues" after being vaxed with the thimerasol vaxes could have a better "cleaning" system in their bodies. The ones who are affected, have a less efficient cleaning system...and if their bodies are not effectively cleaning the mercury out...and they get more shots, it builds up. Thimerasol is a neurotoxin. If affects the nervous system. The fact that there is no test to say, "yes" or "no" for susceptibility to vaccines and they just do the "It's all safe...no problems...shoot 'em up...wait and see..." approach is what bothers me the most.

I do not belive that children who have "autistic tendencies" after being vaxed are autisic or that vaxes cause autism. But, I do believe that those children are suffering from mercury poisoning and should be treated for such.

I think if people would stop saying "Vaxes cause Autism" and start saying, "Vaxes are causing heavy metal poisoning", it would be a little harder to dispute.

Just MHO.

[heathergirl67]

Originally Posted by Angela512

I think the issue is that people are claiming that thimerasol causes autism. But, if you look at mercury poisoning...the symptoms of mercury poisoning mirror autistic tendencies.

The children who have no "issues" after being vaxed with the thimerasol vaxes could have a better "cleaning" system in their bodies. The ones who are affected, have a less efficient cleaning system...and if their bodies are not effectively cleaning the mercury out...and they get more shots, it builds up. Thimerasol is a neurotoxin. If affects the nervous system. The fact that there is no test to say, "yes" or "no" for susceptibility to vaccines and they just do the "It's all safe...no problems...shoot 'em up...wait and see..." approach is what bothers me the most.

I do not belive that children who have "autistic tendencies" after being vaxed are autisic or that vaxes cause autism. But, I do believe that those children are suffering from mercury poisoning and should be treated for such.

I think if people would stop saying "Vaxes cause Autism" and start saying, "Vaxes are causing heavy metal poisoning", it would be a little harder to dispute.

Just MHO.

Do you have links?

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by heathergirl67

Do you have links?

http://www.heart-disease-bypass-surg...rticles/44.htm

The characteristics of autism and mercury poisoning, derived from a review of medical literature, have been found, upon comparison, to be strikingly similar. The characteristics of both disorders are summarized in the following table and fully elucidated in the body of this document. The parallels between the two diseases are so close that it would be unreasonable to assume that the similarities occur by chance.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract

This is just 2 links of many..you can google as with all other things that are in debate...you'll kind an arguement for both sides

[heathergirl67]

Originally Posted by Marnica

http://www.heart-disease-bypass-surg...rticles/44.htm


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract

This is just 2 links of many..you can google as with all other things that are in debate...you'll kind an arguement for both sides

I know, it would be pretty easy for me to google and find opinion articles, like the ones you linked, but I haven't yet found studies that prove that vaccines cause heavy metal poisoning, like the previous poster stated. I was asking for links to the studies that show that.

[Lisa1970]

Originally Posted by SweetSurrender

So sorry to hear that Lisa. That's really awful... how old was he when he got that shot?

He was 2.

[Jugs]

Originally Posted by Angela512

I think the issue is that people are claiming that thimerasol causes autism. But, if you look at mercury poisoning...the symptoms of mercury poisoning mirror autistic tendencies.

The children who have no "issues" after being vaxed with the thimerasol vaxes could have a better "cleaning" system in their bodies. The ones who are affected, have a less efficient cleaning system...and if their bodies are not effectively cleaning the mercury out...and they get more shots, it builds up. Thimerasol is a neurotoxin. If affects the nervous system. The fact that there is no test to say, "yes" or "no" for susceptibility to vaccines and they just do the "It's all safe...no problems...shoot 'em up...wait and see..." approach is what bothers me the most.

I do not belive that children who have "autistic tendencies" after being vaxed are autisic or that vaxes cause autism. But, I do believe that those children are suffering from mercury poisoning and should be treated for such.

I think if people would stop saying "Vaxes cause Autism" and start saying, "Vaxes are causing heavy metal poisoning", it would be a little harder to dispute.

Just MHO.

I think its as simple as autism having more than one potential cause/trigger, and differing responses to treatment.

[ma2two]

I don't think any studies are necessary to know that when you inject into the body 25 mcg or more of mercury, a heavy metal, it poisons the body with heavy metal. "Heavy metal poisoning." It's kind of common sense, don't you think, heathergirl67?

Just like if we decided it was a good idea to inject lead into babies. I don't think a study would be necessary to show that it would cause lead poisoning. But why don't we just start doing that, and consider it okay until someone does a study showing it's not okay? Better yet, let's do it for an additional decade or more after a study shows it's harmful.

[heathergirl67]

Originally Posted by ma2two

I don't think any studies are necessary to know that when you inject into the body 25 mcg or more of mercury, a heavy metal, it poisons the body with heavy metal. "Heavy metal poisoning." It's kind of common sense, don't you think, heathergirl67?

No. Just as I don't think that it's common sense to assume that we're all poisoned from heavy metals by our daily exposures to them. Are there any studies to support this claim?

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by heathergirl67

I know, it would be pretty easy for me to google and find opinion articles, like the ones you linked, but I haven't yet found studies that prove that vaccines cause heavy metal poisoning, like the previous poster stated. I was asking for links to the studies that show that.

of course....my mistake.

[caned & able]

Pinks Disease



minamata disease

frankly, the knowledge that mercury is dangerous and toxic has been around for generations. why are we injecting it directly into the blood stream?

There is no known deficiency of mercury in the human body.