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post #41 of 46
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faithsstuff, I think it's neat that you're allowing your child more space. We have some friends who have a very free-range approach, and I've noticed that their toddlers became very adept at maneuvering stairs and keeping themselves safe at an early age, whereas my own were accident-prone much longer.

I did read The Continuum Concept when my youngest was around 16 months old and belatedly tried to start applying the concepts. Then, when she was 17 months old we were walking on our back deck, and I was a few feet away when she suddenly leaned over and tumbled off a two-foot-high ledge onto the grass below.

She kept crying and holding her elbow and seemed to be in a lot of pain, so we took her to the ER and found out she'd fractured it! At that point I just accepted that I was too late in applying the idea that if I didn't hover, my babies would actually be safer because they'd use their own instincts and protect themselves.

TCC makes a lot of sense, and I think it works when parents are actually able to do it. I did good with the skin-to-skin but lousy with the whole "let them learn to protect themselves"-thing.

My friends who are very free-range are also non-blamers like you are. They don't freak over the various little bumps and bruises of childhood. It's a little harder if someone is free-range but also freaks out and blames others if her children or younger siblings get hurt.

4evermom -- it's great to see you again! Yes, I've sometimes encountered older kids, and even adults, who seem to think they have authority over anyone younger than them. We had a situation last week with an elderly gentleman who was frustrating my dd by continuing to tell her that something she was doing was unsafe and she needed to stop.

Dd wanted me to go over and talk to him, and maybe I should have but I felt like we were just becoming friends with this elderly man and his wife and I didn't want to hurt his feelings, so I was encouraging her to just speak up (if he got on her again) and tell him, "My mom said it's okay for me to do this." But then the couple and their grandkids left so we didn't have to deal with it.

About the swinging-with-eyes-closed issue, I've determined that it must be a pretty low-risk activity, 'cause dd's been having a ball on the swings for the past three years or so, and this is the first time anyone's had an issue with it.

And it sounds like the main risk of someone walking in front of her swing is when she's just starting up, not after she's got a good rythm going, so any impact that occurred would be very low and probably serve as a helpful wakeup call for the other child.
post #42 of 46
I haven't read all the replies...

I think the best thing to do while swinging and you see a small child coming close is to shout a warning 'watch out I'm swinging', 'be careful of the swings' etc. I know how fast a toddler can run and get near swings before a parent can get to them, so shouting that can alert the parent to take action or get the toddler to pay attention. And if they don't take action, well, at least the child was warned It's not something that I think 'has to be done', but I think its helpful.

In our parks, it's illegal to have dogs off leash at playgrounds. I don't think of it as a big deal if the dog isn't getting in the way and isn't vicious but it's nice to play that card if you have to. My boys are also allergic to dogs so I often say that if someone is letting their dog off leash and he's jumping on kids and getting in their faces.
post #43 of 46
I do not feel your dd was at fault in either cases. Fault of the child tending to the toddler and the dog. A dog should NEVER be off leash unless at a dog park.Little dogs are especially nippy.My kids know never to go up and pet someones dog.If someone doesn't know better to keep the dog away from my kids then I have issue with that.

I remember swinging with eyes closed.Neat feeling. I also tell my kids to be careful if little ones are around them- in play areas.To often they get run down in the play area.Swings on the other hand are an area where little ones are not to be without their caregiver.It is the caregiver who should apologise if they allow their child to get away from them and into harms way.The 12yo made too big of a deal about *getting* an apology.In most cases it is habit/normal to say *sorry* when we hit into someone,but there are times when we don't notice what we have done.
post #44 of 46
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Originally Posted by GuildJenn View Post
What I get from the thread is that people are weird everywhere. Most of the time this doesn't result in collisions, but sometimes it does. When it does, people will all want someone to blame.
I'm getting that too. Who cares? We need to get past this finger pointing all the time. Stuff happens, it always will. We can't prevent all accidents.
post #45 of 46
I think a general rule for us in public playgrounds is to be mindful of people around you.
I remind my 4 year old of that every so often.
Right now we're really working hard on being mindful around swings because sometimes other (and much bigger) kids not only swing really high, they also like jumping off of it. In effect going past the designated swing area.
If my child is the one swinging, I ask him to be mindful of potential passers-by, especially little kids.
So I think in an area that is for public use, everyone should be mindful and considerate about all the other people who are using the facility. Everyone is responsible.
post #46 of 46
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Right now we're really working hard on being mindful around swings because sometimes other (and much bigger) kids not only swing really high, they also like jumping off of it. In effect going past the designated swing area.
As I've already mentioned, my 10yo also loves jumping off swings, and even though she likes to swing with her eyes closed, she does open her eyes before jumping to make sure that no one is in her path.

I've seen some other kids of about my dd's age who also like jumping off the swings. I haven't seen any kids who actually felt ready to do this before about the age of nine, and by this age these kids all seem to be quite careful and safety-minded. I've NEVER seen a child jump off a swing and go hurtling smack into someone else.

I'm not saying it can never happen; it's just not likely.

I think everyone who has participated in this thread believes in being mindful of others and not jeopardizing anyone's safety, and I think we all believe in educating our children about this. I just think that how we apply this belief varies widely from person to person.
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