I Drugged My Kid... - Page 2

[FrugalGranolaMom]

Originally Posted by selkat

She will literally roll around, sit up, jabber, climb all over me, etc, etc

This is ds, he fights sleep like it's the worst thing ever and it has gotten even worse now that he is so close to walking. I am getting some Calm Forte tomorrow! Hope it works for us.

[babynatasha]

Thanks to the the OP! I am taking my daughter to the doctor tomorrow because of her inability to sleep at night (I had a minor breakdown last week and I think they are more worried about me than her!) I was going to ask them about what they could recommend to me for a sleep aid for her. I will ask them about the Calm Forte. When on the phone with my doctor last week, they made me feel so bad about her sleep issues. I also felt that they were *blaming* me for them. (She is getting the attention she wants from you, you are the one perpetuating her sleeplessness ect...) I really don't think it the case though and it is nice to read of other people with children who sleep badly. Thanks to you all! You give me hope

[LCBMAX]

Originally Posted by babynatasha

I am taking my daughter to the doctor tomorrow because of her inability to sleep at night ...

When on the phone with my doctor last week, they made me feel so bad about her sleep issues. I also felt that they were *blaming* me for them. (She is getting the attention she wants from you, you are the one perpetuating her sleeplessness ect...)

eeep. don't be discouraged again if the visit tomorrow doesn't make you feel better than the phone call did! different doctor, maybe?
good luck sleepy mama!

[daisymommy]

Originally Posted by One_Girl

in America they are unregulated and are sometimes mixed with very dangerous things for kids to have like aspirin.

As a current homeopathic student, I can tell you that is NOT true. They are FDA regulated, and true homeopathic remedies (not herbal remedies like you were talking about)--do not contain additives or asprin.

I would look at the kids Calms Forte, because too high of a dose can cause the opposite effect, and have her awake all night. I would also look into possible allergies (food, environment) that may be causing the wakefullness.

But also, (((HUGS))). My kids don't sleep through the night until they are one yr., so I feel some of your pain.

[One_Girl]

Originally Posted by daisymommy

As a current homeopathic student, I can tell you that is NOT true. They are FDA regulated, and true homeopathic remedies (not herbal remedies like you were talking about)--do not contain additives or asprin.

I would look at the kids Calms Forte, because too high of a dose can cause the opposite effect, and have her awake all night. I would also look into possible allergies (food, environment) that may be causing the wakefullness.

But also, (((HUGS))). My kids don't sleep through the night until they are one yr., so I feel some of your pain.

I just looked it up and it is true that the FDA requires certain labeling. They don't test the medicine for safety or effectiveness though and that would still be a concern to me. Even medicine that has been tested by the FDA sometimes turns out to be unsafe, I would be very reluctant to give my dd medicine that isn't tested for safety even if it is something that can be found in nature. I don't think it is a good idea to give a child anything that hasn't been shown to be safe in children because I have heard that children's bodies process medicine in very different ways than adults do. Some medicines that were thought to be safe for children and teens because they were safe for adults have now been banned in children and teens because they are really not safe. Even though these ingredients seem like mild ones they may not be safe for children.

Also, Avena Sativa is one of the ingredients and when I googled it it came up as something that triggers hormones related to sex drive and seems to be a stimulant. Even if I didn't have my other hang ups on medicine I would want to know more about this and the effect on early puberty before going through with giving it to my child.

[penstamon]

Originally Posted by One_Girl

Also, Avena Sativa is one of the ingredients and when I googled it it came up as something that triggers hormones related to sex drive and seems to be a stimulant. Even if I didn't have my other hang ups on medicine I would want to know more about this and the effect on early puberty before going through with giving it to my child.

Avena sativa is the latin name for common oats. I'm sure most moms agree that oats are a safe part of a healthy diet for their kids. Homeopathic remedies are often structured on the premise of the "law of similars" or "like treats like" as in a teeny bit if stimulant would help to treat an over-stimulated condition.

That being said, I have never noticed homeopathics work for us. We have used kids calms forte on DS with no result and I have used the adult calms forte with no result. I think it is excellent that some of you have experienced good results with them as I think they are quite safe. Our friends called the poison control center after her dd ate a bottle of homeopathics and they said there was nothing to worry about.

[One_Girl]

Originally Posted by penstamon

Avena sativa is the latin name for common oats. I'm sure most moms agree that oats are a safe part of a healthy diet for their kids. Homeopathic remedies are often structured on the premise of the "law of similars" or "like treats like" as in a teeny bit if stimulant would help to treat an over-stimulated condition.

That being said, I have never noticed homeopathics work for us. We have used kids calms forte on DS with no result and I have used the adult calms forte with no result. I think it is excellent that some of you have experienced good results with them as I think they are quite safe. Our friends called the poison control center after her dd ate a bottle of homeopathics and they said there was nothing to worry about.

Here is one of the websites that talk about the side effects of it.
http://www.smartbodyz.com/Avena-Sati...-Sex-Drive.htm

http://www.wholesale-andro.com/avena-sativa.html

If you google it and side effects it pulls up a bunch of pages that talk about this. I am not sure if rolled oats do the same thing. I will have to look into that and cut them out of our diet if they do because I am not fine with that.

[mommaklo]

I worked in a health food store for 3 yrs and had a lady come back in and tell us we were trying to poison her because someone had mentioned arnica for a condition she was experiencing. She bought homeopathic arnica and came back in mad. The difference is, yes, while arnica itself is a poisonous plant, homeopathic arnica is safe. Homeopathics are diluted or removed "medicine." The companies that make it use vibrations to remove what Ive heard referred to as "the energy" from the plant. You would not be consuming ANY of the ingredients on the list in their active form, including avena santiva or wild oats, because what end up in the pills is just the energy or the essence of the plant. This energy then "passes its information" to your systems that are out of balance to correct them. I would say contact hylands or visit their website if this doesnt make sense (Im not the greatest at explaining it) and know that homoepathics are the SAFEST form of medicine available. They can be combined with pharmaceutical drugs, and given to babies and pregant women. I took calms forte while pregant after asking the hylands national informational speaker who visited my company last fall if she thought it was ok. She said "I cant say its ok for use by pregnant women legally, but I can say I took it while I was pregnant."

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