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Babysitter issues (refusing to be paid)

post #1 of 13
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I don't even know if this pertains to this forum or not...I guess I post here out of default.

Since XH doesn't seem to be coming back into our lives, I want to make other arrangements instead of waiting around. Generally, on week-ends, we (my mom, dad, DD and I) hang out, run errands, take DD to the kiddy waterpark nearby and take it easy. Sundays used to be XH's day with DD; I'd started taking dance lessons that day nearby XH's place. It made it easier to go get DD after I was done. Now that he's not involved, I still want to do the one thing I get to do by myself, but it means DD stays with my parents, and these days, she can be a handful. Also, my mother has been showing signs of being at the end of her rope (she works FT at the age of 60 and helps me A LOT with childcare), so I thought that hiring a sitter for a few hours could give everyone a much needed break. When I mentioned this to my mother she was very unhappy with me, saying that DD spends enough time away from home, etc etc...then again, she was suffering from a pulled back muscle and wasn't even able to care for DD properly. Anyhow...

I got in touch with DD's old DCP from when she was a baby. I've always loved how this woman, let's call her M, took care of the children in her care. She got DD to walk and to eat purees and to nap away from home. She's just got that magic touch it seems. During the time DD went to the daycare M worked at, I helped her a great deal with things like immigration issues, landlord-tenant disagreements, etc. I've been in touch with M since she was let go from the daycare. I helped find her two part-time jobs, one of which didn't work out; the other seems ongoing. I don't know what she does for money these days, but from speaking with her, she sounds like she's in dire straits AND really misses working with kids. So, the babysitting seemed like an ideal situation: I need a sitter once every week or two, for 2-4 hrs on Sunday, and she needs extra cash. And she lives close to the dance school I go to...

The visit was overall a success. It didn't take long for DD to M and she really likes her. The departure was tough, but when I came to pick DD up, she was happy as pie and didn't want to go home. When it came time to pay M, she outright refused.

I was a bit confused and insisted, but she kept redirecting me, saying "oh another time", all the while asking if I needed next Sunday or the Sunday after.

I don't really know how to deal with this situation. I would like DD to have a few regular babysitters, and to be somewhat used to the idea of being babysat at someone else's place, but I don't want to take advantage of anyone!

Input?
post #2 of 13
aw, that's sweet. i understand where you're coming from though. if someone were just going to babysit on a random occasion and didn't want to accept payment, i would be okay with that, but if i wanted to rely on someone on a weekly basis, i really would want to pay them too. what if you call her up and just tell her that, if she's available, you really want her to watch dd every sunday but you don't feel right not paying her for her time. if she won't give you a rate, suggest something.

it would be so nice for you & dd if this worked out!
post #3 of 13
I agree with PP. If she still doesn't want to be paid but wants to take DD on regularly maybe you could just give her lots of 'gifts'. Gift certificates, bring around a meal that you 'had too much left over' etc.
post #4 of 13
It sounds like she sees you as a friend now, and it may be that in her culture you don't take money from a friend, no badly you may need it. I would just put the money in an envelope and leave it on her table. I'm not sure where she's from, but it may require you just insisting more than her denying. She probably needs the money, otherwise you could just do gifts. Also, I would tell her straight up you're going to need her to babysit every Sunday, and how happy you are with how well your dd gets along with her and that you have the perfect babysitter.
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hmm, the cultural aspect of this hadn't occurred to me. M is Haitian and a 7th day Adventist. From numerous conversations with her, I understand that she takes her faith very seriously. I also know from working on her resume that for a decade she was heavily involved in what's called "social service" in her hometown, instructing mothers who either had children very young or adopted abandoned children various aspects of childcare and rearing.

I guess I'll need to discuss this honestly with her.
post #6 of 13
I babysit for free for a few people. Honestly to me it doesn't feel like work and I am happy to help. Maybe this lady feels the same way.
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by Bunnyflakes View Post
I babysit for free for a few people. Honestly to me it doesn't feel like work and I am happy to help. Maybe this lady feels the same way.
I do the same thing for friends. I don't think money has any place in a friendship. If I felt taken advantage of I would just say no, and this lady probably will too.
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by Bunnyflakes View Post
I babysit for free for a few people. Honestly to me it doesn't feel like work and I am happy to help. Maybe this lady feels the same way.
That is a great point!
post #9 of 13
yeah, i'd bet that it is a cultural thing. but i can understand your annoyance with it.

i would make it clear that you need a sitter every sunday... and if she doesn't want to get paid after every sitting, then maybe you can give her payment for the whole month at once.

personally i don't like to save it all for "another time," since i have a budget, too, and it's not good to have money earmarked for someone, that's burning a hole in your pocket.
post #10 of 13
I used to babysit for my niece once a week. At first I said I'd do it for free, until my brother insisted. He said that the service I was providing was incredibly important to him, that my time was worthwhile, and he wouldn't be able to continue leaving my niece with me if I refused to let him compensate me fairly.

I took the money, although I sometimes still felt bad about it. In his situation, though, I would feel even worse if someone else babysat my kids for free. Maybe every once in awhile, if it were reciprocated, but not on a regular basis.

Insist. Call the money a token of gratitude, or a gift to thank her. Sometimes just different words help someone to accept the money and be okay with it.
post #11 of 13
i hope you havent had the talk.

i notice from the list you have written you have done a lot for her. would you accept money for that?

please respect her culture. or even just her wishes.

look for other ways of bartering. maybe she may need other help you might be able to give her without you feeling like its help.

i have had the same happen to me. and luckily my friend had paid by check. so i just didnt cash it.
post #12 of 13
Thread Starter 
Nope, I haven't spoken to M yet about the babysitting. I'm still on the fence about what to do...but since we've become closer in the past year (she knows all about XH and very much dislikes him), I figure I'll just bring it up one last time, and if she really feels uncomfortable about the money, I'll drop it. Perhaps she felt weird because I sprang the cash on her without warning.
post #13 of 13
When I was pregnant, I babysat for a girlfriend while she would go to class, so 2 hours once or twice a week. I refused to take money for such a small favor, so often she would call on her way home and say things like "I'm stopping at Subway, do you want anything?" It was her way of showing appreciation - and once I had DD we did the same thing, only in reverse.

Gifts of "leftover/extra" food, items we "picked up at a tag sale", or errands run are all nice things to trade and are not likely to be offensive. It sounds like you've helped her quite a bit, so she might be considering the childcare her repayment to you!
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