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post #1241 of 1914

Sorry that I brought it up guys!  It can be so hard to make the decision to move on.  I have gone back and forth and back and forth.  The thing is, I am losing really well right now.  But, clearly, I am just being selfish because I can tell that my body wants me to stop.  I so thought I could will my way through it.... but my monkey mind is weak and my inner wisdom rules my life!  Awww shucks. 

 

It would be so neat if I had a loss tomorrow.  I would feel really good about getting off to a good start.

 

Where did the theory of 48 hours come from?  I never made that connection- we take hhcg 3x a day and people inject once a day.  Of course it leaves the system quickly.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We will see what the scale says about my fried eggs in the morning.

post #1242 of 1914

Birthgreeter, my thoughts are with you and your family.  Please do be gentle with yourself.

 

Congrats to all of you who are making your goals and moving on.  That has got to be so exciting.  Those pictures are amazing.  I hope to have some to post in a few months!

 

I am on VLCD 20 and down 16.4 lbs which is wonderful for me.  I was planning on going to 21 days, taking a 7 day break for a planned interruption and then finishing out the 40.  However, I am feeling so awesome that I think I'm just going to continue on without the planned interruption until my body tells me it is done.  Every time I resist temptation it gets easier and easier!

post #1243 of 1914

Quick question:  If it's ok to put homeopathic drops in water to dose, why is it not ok to take the drops alone if you have just had a sip of water (or, why can't you have a sip of water shortly after)?

post #1244 of 1914
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Originally Posted by blessedwithboys View Post

Quick question:  If it's ok to put homeopathic drops in water to dose, why is it not ok to take the drops alone if you have just had a sip of water (or, why can't you have a sip of water shortly after)?


who says you can't?  Go for it!   Water is really never an issue.

post #1245 of 1914

Hope that everything with your brother goes peacefully Birthgreeter.

 

I'm at 128 so only 3lbs to my goal. The only before picture I have is a naked shot of me giving birth and I was 220lbs. I'll try to edit perhaps for a comparison shot.

post #1246 of 1914
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Originally Posted by Kwan*Yin View Post The only before picture I have is a naked shot of me giving birth and I was 220lbs. I'll try to edit perhaps for a comparison shot.


biglaugh.gif

 

Um, yeah, that might be a plan. Well, the fat pic of me, that I posted last page, actually had my mom and my then 4(?)yo ds in it, and I edited them out. And took out a lot of the background. So yeah, you can probably just get your face. The losses will definitely show, as you can see!

 

Down to 155.2 this morning, Mrs.T, I'm having great losses right now too, and I could probably stay on P2 a couple weeks longer, but I am not willing to be on P2 at ALL, at M's, and not on P3 either, though I could, because MA has these things called bulkie rolls that they only have there, and I have to have one when I'm up there!! redface.gif

 

So Saturday is going to be my LDW, and then 2 more days of VLCDs, and then Wednesday (next) starts P3. I will be on my first day of P4 when I go to M's, on March 10th. I'm not going to go nuts with P3 or P4-- I think I might have gained back those 4lb so rapidly on the last P3 because I just jumped right in there and added everything back into my diet in one day lol.gif The cheeses, the fat, all that. I'm going to take it slower this time. If I can! Funny, last time I craved a ton of cheese and butter just before I transitioned. This time I want meat, and lots of it-- chicken with the skin, turkey, pork sausage (have to make it myself b/c of the dextrose in pre-made kinds irked.gif), chicken wings!!! With hot sauce, yum! Blue cheese dressing...mmm... salads with O&V and feta...baby back ribs, corned beef. LOL I guess I'm ready after all.

post #1247 of 1914

I started a thread for phase 3 so those doing phase 2 don't have to read the recipes and things if they don't want to :)

post #1248 of 1914

Thank you everyone for your comments.  

 

The other day, I was so ill ---not with a virus or anything, but from the stress that I could hardly eat.  (as I already told you) yesterday I stopped at a store while out doing appointments -a little Amish store, just to see what they had.  They had some organic dark chocolate.  A small bar.  I bought 3.  Intending to save them for phase 4.   But decided to eat one on the way home, thinking my stomach that I had only put one egg in, and one apple and it was now about 4 pm-as I could not handle anything else-actually calmed down!  It must be true about chocolate!  

 

I am better today- but my brother is not.  He will be lucky to make it 2 weeks, as the doctors at the hospital say that the cancer is everywhere even in the bone.  The doctors he had been seeing were lying to him.  very frustrating-I just do not understand why they feel a need to lie to a patient!

 

So I might not be on here much, but I will be continuing with phase 2-although may go off a little now and then, but I will try. At least for another week, I will take it a day at a time.....

 

I will be back though-love the support here!

thanks!

post #1249 of 1914

((((((Birthgreeter))))))

 

 

Lovely photos everyone!  I hope you are all doing well in your current phase!

post #1250 of 1914

Here is my lurking update:

 

 My baby is no longer nursing. I just couldn't fight any longer for a supply. I don't have enough tissue for a full supply and while I have driven myself near mad trying everything in the past, and I could have done more this time, my husband flat out asked me not to, he asked me to take care of myself. I am trying to accept it.

 

 My cycle came back last month and I was expecting it here again 3 days ago. I am waiting for it as the day it comes is the day I will order real HCG drops, 2 day shipping. I can load the first 2 days while waiting, load two more days (The book pounds and inches has a week of loading!) and then go from there. Is this ok?

 

 I am however so sick of waiting for my cycle to start. I want to just up and order and get going. The book however sounds like it is against starting right before a period and as the drops I am getting are not homeopathic I think I should stick with the book?

post #1251 of 1914

I think it is best to wait and do loading right at the end of your period.  I know the feeling of being impatient, but to get through the diet mentally, it is really helpful to not have your cycle starting in the 1st two weeks when you can retain water and throw off your loss.  I have done it both ways and my round where I had a full 3 weeks before my period began was my best one.  hth

post #1252 of 1914


 Danali, from everything I am reading with real HCG, not the homeopathic, the drops must be held for at least 5 minutes and 10 is best because once you swallow it, it is destroyed in the acid of your belly! Hold it as long as you can is my thinking!

 

 

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Originally Posted by Denali View Post

 


Only 10 seconds? My sister-in-law (who introduced me to this protocol) said something about 10-15 minutes or so...that's why I thought I would have problems. Maybe it's because she is not doing the homeopathic hcg but the one prescribed by a doctor and that's why she has to hold it longer?

post #1253 of 1914

Starting the (homeopathic) HCG causes me to get AF.  Nice, huh?  I typically have no AF or just once every few months, so I can't really complain, but it sucks to always start out a round with AF.

post #1254 of 1914

Just a few days ago I posted about how wonderfully I was feeling, how I was going to keep going on this Round as long as possible, blah, blah, blah.  I'm not feeling awesome anymore at all.  I've been so hungry the last two days that I can barely stand it.  I've been just trying to sleep a lot and ignore it because I have been constantly starving.  I'm on VLCD23, down a little over 18 lbs, and have had no issues with actual hunger before this.  I even tried adding in another serving of protein but I'm still hungry after that.  And it definitely isn't a thing with not having any more abnormal fat.  I have at least 20 lbs of abnormal fat left, if not more.

 

I'm not sure if it is possible for hHCG to stop working or what but I am going a bit nutso.  So I am going to transition into P3 as soon as I can.  I'm just not sure if I can make it the full 48 hours.  Here's hoping for the best.

post #1255 of 1914

I see I'm not the only one struggling.  I did awesome through my whole first bottle of Evoke, went to P3, had a huge gain, ordered another bottle and went back on after a 2 week break.  Now I'm straight up unable to continue on with VLCD.  And I know it's not bc I broke protocol and went longer on P2.  I know of one mama who posted about going something like 60+ consecitive days.  It's the drops.  As soon as I opened the bottle I could tell it smelled different and sure enough it tasted different, too.  It just hasn't been working.  Something was changed in this batch.  It's much more strongly alcoholic. and my psychological cravings for non-protocol foods are just impossible to ignore.  On the first bottle, for the first 40 days or so, I had no trouble telling myself it was worth it.

 

Sigh...I think I may stay on ultra-low-carb while I order a bottle of D140.

 

FWIW, my loss was 38 lbs but I have stabilized at a loss of 34.  If I had stayed perfectly on protocol since VLCD1, I would be down closer to 80 lbs.  I started out needing to lose at least 100 lbs, but probably closer to 136-ish.  I feel like I still have so far to go that it's not worth trying, but I know that is SO not true.  I just need to find a way to re-focus.

post #1256 of 1914
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ornery View PostI've been so hungry the last two days that I can barely stand it.  I've been just trying to sleep a lot and ignore it because I have been constantly starving.  I'm on VLCD23, down a little over 18 lbs, and have had no issues with actual hunger before this.  I even tried adding in another serving of protein but I'm still hungry after that.  And it definitely isn't a thing with not having any more abnormal fat.  I have at least 20 lbs of abnormal fat left, if not more.

 

I'm not sure if it is possible for hHCG to stop working or what but I am going a bit nutso.  So I am going to transition into P3 as soon as I can.  I'm just not sure if I can make it the full 48 hours.  Here's hoping for the best.


It sounds like you are ready to transition. That's what happened to me on my first Round. I think mine was about 30 days, though. But my last week, IIRC, I was feeling much like you. Plus my skin gets so dry on P2!! I could not WAIT to use homemade soaps with olive oil, use lotion and coconut oil on my skin! It's not as bad this time (I'm on Round2). I am transitioning in the next couple days to P3. This time I feel I could stay on P2 longer, but I am traveling on March 10th and need to be a little less restricted on my travels. You can do this. It's only 48 hours winky.gif "I can do anything for 12 hours that would appall me if I knew I had to keep it up for a lifetime" (Al-anon).

 



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Originally Posted by blessedwithboys View PostI see I'm not the only one struggling.  I did awesome through my whole first bottle of Evoke, went to P3, had a huge gain, ordered another bottle and went back on after a 2 week break.  Now I'm straight up unable to continue on with VLCD.  And I know it's not bc I broke protocol and went longer on P2.  I know of one mama who posted about going something like 60+ consecitive days.  It's the drops.  As soon as I opened the bottle I could tell it smelled different and sure enough it tasted different, too.  It just hasn't been working.  Something was changed in this batch.  It's much more strongly alcoholic. and my psychological cravings for non-protocol foods are just impossible to ignore.  On the first bottle, for the first 40 days or so, I had no trouble telling myself it was worth it.

 

Sigh...I think I may stay on ultra-low-carb while I order a bottle of D140.

 

FWIW, my loss was 38 lbs but I have stabilized at a loss of 34.  If I had stayed perfectly on protocol since VLCD1, I would be down closer to 80 lbs.  I started out needing to lose at least 100 lbs, but probably closer to 136-ish.  I feel like I still have so far to go that it's not worth trying, but I know that is SO not true.  I just need to find a way to re-focus.


It's worth it. You know it is! 38lbs is nothing to shake a stick at! Maybe new drops will help, or maybe lowering by a couple drops how many you take in a serving? That worked for Mary3mama. It didn't work so well for me. Maybe get advice from Panserbjorne or Mary3mama; they're the homeopathic experts smile.gif But hang in there. Far as I know this is it the only thing that works! No matter how many rounds it takes. I was hoping for only two, but I will have to do three, maybe four, to get all the weight off.

I am at 153.4 this morning!!! joy.gif I am officially 50lb down from my highest weight ever. 30lb of which is from hcg. Yay!! I want to get to 125. Twenty-five pounds sounds so doable in one round, but who knows. I'm not above doing two if my body resists, or if I get tired of it before the weight's all gone. I have heard that the less one has to lose, the closer one gets to goal, the harder it is to get off. That's alright. I've been waiting all this time; I can wait more.

 

I gained 4lbs promptly back when I transitioned to P3 last time, and I had a wretched time stabilizing. I hope not to do that this time.

post #1257 of 1914
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Originally Posted by blessedwithboys View Post

  As soon as I opened the bottle I could tell it smelled different and sure enough it tasted different, too.  It just hasn't been working.  Something was changed in this batch.  It's much more strongly alcoholic. and my psychological cravings for non-protocol foods are just impossible to ignore.  On the first bottle, for the first 40 days or so, I had no trouble telling myself it was worth it.



I'm so glad you shared this.  I recently ordered a new bottle (in the middle of a round) and I immediately noticed the difference.  I even said as much to some friends.  It smelled and tasted different.  The drops has a slight numbing effect and a horrible after taste, neither of which I noticed with prior bottles.  AND... I had a horrible time for the rest of my round.  I wasn't losing as much and having terrible cravings.  I was hungry and fatigued.  I stopped the round, even, because I felt like my body was just telling me it needed a break.  Today is my last day of VLCD.  I plan on regrouping on phase 3 for a little over a week and then starting a new round.  Very interesting about the drops... I'll have to really pay attention to the patterns of my losses and how I feel compared to my last two rounds. 

 

post #1258 of 1914

There is no regulations on these drops and from what I am reading there is nothing saying they contain what they say they do unless they have enough HCG in them to actually test!

 

 Have you read this?

 

 http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2011/01/26/20110126fda-warnings-about-diet-drugs.html#ixzz1DTrYFl00

 

Retail stores and wholesalers that sell homeopathic HCG products already are changing their product mix.

Discontinued sales

Hi-Health discontinued selling homeopathic HCG within the past two months. The retailer sells another weight-loss aid for the HCG diet that does not include any trace amounts of the hormone, just herbs and amino acids, said Jay Chopra, the chain's vice president of merchandising.

 

This is one of the reasons why I am going with my first round being real HCG drops, not homeopathic. Not even the homeopathic community wants to take this on because they are not approved under them either, it is not really homeopathic as is.

 

 If you have product that is not working, contact the maker, demand a refund. They need to know! If they don't refund, file a BBB report against them!


post #1259 of 1914

another reason to stick with a well known and reputable manufacturer.  They DO have standards and remain in strict compliance.  Some of these are no-name companies and that does concern me.

post #1260 of 1914

Okay so I just want to make sure I am doing this right!!!  I am on day 1 of loading.  When loading you eat pretty much anything you want is that right?  I am planning to load for 2 days and then start the restricted food plan.  I started taking the drops today as well.  For those of you that have been doing this for awhile how long does it take to really start dropping pounds?  Do you find that you are hungry?  You have to stop taking the drops during "that time of the month" right?!  Are you hungry during that time?  Anything else I should know?  Any tips would be appreciated!!!

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