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post #21 of 49
Love and Light to you, mama. I hope you use those contacts and find someone who can legally assist you.
post #22 of 49
Just want to say how sorry I am. This happened to my ex-husband as a 4 year old. His father took him to England also. His mother waited a long time to go over there to fight for him and in the long run she ended up not getting custody and only got him for one month every summer. At the time the English courts really looked down on the fact that she didn't come over right away. I hope you won't wait too long. I think the media has been able to shed more light on these kinds of cases over the years and maybe a media outlet could help you. I really hope you get your son back soon.
post #23 of 49
Hi Momma!
I a so sorry. This is te worst someone can do to you!
I am European and living in Europe and also am a lawyer. Although I am not sure, I would try and contact the European Union and Interpol and see what they can do. We have a pretty strict law regading residency. He might have registered somewhere. If he is English it can be assumed that he stayed in an English speaking country. Have you ever tried to contact the Authorities here?
I wish you all the best!
post #24 of 49
I am so sorry. I can't imagine what you must be going through. I agree with PP's that say not to keep silent. Talking about it will help you cope, and it could also play a part in helping you resolve the issue. You never know what other people's experiences are, and someone with important information or connections can't help you if they don't know about it. Please don't keep it bottled up inside, mama.
post #25 of 49
I was just thinking about the dad who was fighting for years to get his son back from another country and finally did. Does anyone know who I mean? I'm sorry if the details aren't correct...I think something happened like he divorced the mother of his son and then the mother died having another baby and the stepdad took the son to another country. It got a lot of media attention. I know it's a different situation, but as someone already said, the media attention helped.
post #26 of 49
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post #27 of 49
s mamma, I couldn't read and not post... I have no idea where you'd even start with trying to get your son back, but I wish you all the best. I can not even imagine being forcefully seperated from my boys. s
post #28 of 49
I am so, so sorry.

Have you tried this?

http://travel.state.gov/abduction/so...ions_3848.html

If you haven't already, please contact the US State Department (above). They should be able to open a case and advise you.

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was just thinking about the dad who was fighting for years to get his son back from another country and finally did. Does anyone know who I mean?
I remember that. The child was from Brazil, I think?
post #29 of 49
post #30 of 49
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Thank you all for the replies and links..we(my famiily) are trying to do everything we can do, finances are very limited but the last time my son called me he said he was at his grandmothers visiting, so at least I know where he WAS. I have several friends in that town( i lived in the UK) and they have not seen my son around. I have also contacted social services in several cities. I am trying. This is something you see on Lifetime TV,not my life. I just try to have faith that God will answer our prayers and bring my son home to me.

There is a lot you can do without costing you any money. Have you contacted the state department and opened a case? Have you called the FBI? Call social services in England is going to do you no good if you have no kidnapping case filed. With all do respect, I would not be just sitting back waiting for God to bring my son back, I would be doing everything in my power to make it happen.
post #31 of 49
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There is a lot you can do without costing you any money. Have you contacted the state department and opened a case? Have you called the FBI? Call social services in England is going to do you no good if you have no kidnapping case filed. With all do respect, I would not be just sitting back waiting for God to bring my son back, I would be doing everything in my power to make it happen.
This. What your ex did was illegal. The EU and the US have agreements for this kind of thing. The longer you wait to actually file a police report, the harder it will be.

A MDC mom (American, living in the EU) took her kids back to the US without their dad's consent. He filed a police report immediately, and she had to return to the country in the EU immediately, was arrested at the airport, and lost primary custody of her sons. So, really, you can act on this *now* via the State Dep't, etc. God helps those who help themselves!
post #32 of 49
I am so sorry. I will pray.

Can you have his grandparents' house monitored by the local police? I do not know the particulars but I imagine your son will show up at that location at some point.
post #33 of 49
Sorry Mama 2
post #34 of 49
I am in the UK and have done a fair bit of legal work.

This was not really my area, but I am 90% sure that what your ex has done is illegal. I am assuming you had custody? In the UK, iirc, if you are divorced odds are pretty good you'd need to go to court to take that child out of the UK-even if you had a residence order and so forth. I don't know exactly how the law works if you are bringing a US citizen into the country illegally, but iirc there is a law that makes it pretty easy to extraditate a UK citizen to the US if they've broken a US law.

It should surely be easy enough for interpol or whoever to find out if and when your son entered the country, and then if he is living normally here, presumably he is in school, registered with a doctor, and so forth, and there will be a record of him. Unless your ex is keeping him hidden, which is probably worthy of police time in and of itself.

With the greatest respect, I really agree that the longer you leave this one, the harder it will be. The police are messing you about, surely. Your son should be easy enough to trace in the UK, if he is in the UK, or failing that, as another poster said, he is going to be in a English speaking country which narrows it down. Make them do their job! YOU should not be having to contact social services-social services won't really deal with this sort of thing, IME, unless there is abuse involved or a kidnapping file open somewhere. But anyway, unless the father is known to them-ie they are concerned about the children in the family-they won't know where your son is. Also, they are overworked and underfunded (I worked in shelters, advice centres, and so on, I know about this)
post #35 of 49
Please fight for him. I will pray for you all.
post #36 of 49
I am so sorry that you are going through this. I hope that you are able to use some of the resources that pp's have mentioned with success. I can't imagine going through this.

I also think that it would be good for you to find someone to talk to, if you haven't already. A clergy member that you trust or a counselor. You don't have to discuss it with people at work, but that is a lot to keep bottled up.

Hang in there mama
post #37 of 49
Mama, thinking of you and your son right now and will continue to do so.
post #38 of 49
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Originally Posted by Dr.Worm View Post
I was just thinking about the dad who was fighting for years to get his son back from another country and finally did. Does anyone know who I mean? I'm sorry if the details aren't correct...I think something happened like he divorced the mother of his son and then the mother died having another baby and the stepdad took the son to another country. It got a lot of media attention. I know it's a different situation, but as someone already said, the media attention helped.
I remember that, but did not hear a conclusion. I am actually a bit sorry to hear the bio dad got custody, that poor child and all the turmoil in his life.

OP- I am so sorry, what a difficult thing to endure. Can you not get teh childs phone number and do a reverse look-up? Find the address and bring your child back home with you? Which Iam sure you have already thought of, seeing as this is your child
post #39 of 49
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post #40 of 49
What are the police saying? Even if he has joint custody I presume that does not mean he can take the child for 6 months? I'm sorry but something is just not making sense here. I hope you can find some answers soon.

eta: I also don't understand why you are keeping it a secret from people?
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