Please advise asap. time pressed. need info and advise.

[BellaClaudia]

Does anybody know what is the situtation regarding vaccs and
private school in us on preschool / K level? are they reqired? is there a way around?

also.. what is a general "attitude" of the private / church schools towards
parents of a child who would consider vaccinations waver if states allowes?
would it be negative or positive or neutral..

if there is a religous extempt, and one fills form is there a wait time and or approval time for this or once form is filled what follows up?



sorry to post here if it is not a right forum, I had no idea where to post this question and I am time pressed for decissions so all info would be appreciated.



thanks.

[MCatLvrMom2A&X]

Religious exemptions go into effect right away there is no wait time in most states. Every state has its own set of rules as far as what you have to file out and how.

Private schools are not required to accept religious exemptions if they do not take any money from the government.

[Angela512]

^ Yes, agreed.

I would go to the school you want to send your child to and ask them directly.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by MCatLvrMom2A&X

Religious exemptions go into effect right away there is no wait time in most states. Every state has its own set of rules as far as what you have to file out and how.

Private schools are not required to accept religious exemptions if they do not take any money from the government.

This is actually not entirely accurate. Some states have private institutions included in the written law, so regardless of whether or not the school gets government funds, if private schools is defined and included in your state's law regarding exemptions, then they have to accept them.

[MCatLvrMom2A&X]

I didnt know that about the written law good to know.

[crunchy_mommy]

You could call up the school(s) you're interested in -- anonymously, so they don't 'flag' you or whatever...

I don't have school-age kids yet but I've always heard it can be harder (depending on the school) to get an exemption with private schools since in many states they aren't required by law to accept exemptions.

You could also post in Finding Your Tribe to see if anyone locally has experience with specific schools or your state's specific laws.

[ma2two]

What state do you live in?

In every state, a complete vaccine record or an exemption is required for daycare, preschool, and kindergarten.

Most states require that private schools accept the exemption. New Jersey is one exception. New Jersey does not require religious schools to accept religious exemptions if they don't want to.

I would NOT ask the school whether they accept exemptions or how they feel about them. The law most likely requires them to accept the exemption. And why does it matter how the registrar feels about it?

Don't give the private school any information about vaccine status until they accept your child. That way they can't deny admission based on vaccine status and pretend it is for something else. Usually a private school doesn't ask for vaccine information until they accept the student. Then you just give them the exemption form or letter, depending on your state law. Don't be wishy-washy, apologetic, asking permission, etc. This is your right under state law.

[Turquesa]

BellaClaudia, look up your state laws here.

[Turquesa]

Slightly off-topic, but for those of you who live in states with religious and no philosophical exemptions, I was thinking we could start a special church....

[xmasbaby7]

Originally Posted by Turquesa

Slightly off-topic, but for those of you who live in states with religious and no philosophical exemptions, I was thinking we could start a special church....

I'm in!

[BellaClaudia]

I am just so confused with the school info that I received.. - christian church school is not accepting a waiver for faith reasons.
so.. now I got my faith system uspide down.. by this and I need
to rething the whole concept..

how a religious school can deny a waiver for religious reason if
the church it represents believes in ten commandments.. yet
when I get my child to be vaccinated it is ME who has to sign
a release form for the doctor and let inoculate my child with
something that actually clearly CAN be harmful as a result.

So where is sens in all of this..
the very religiuos institution I wanted to entrust my child with
to give moral guidance and show the light in the complicated modern
world is denying my basic legal right accepted by public schools
and does not let me believe in what I might believe and what
I thought so far that they believe too?

now I think I am chasing my own tail but at the same time
I have to take a good look again at the school choice
since it seem just not be what it used to be.

I don't think one need to invent a church since by any church's
who believe in ten commandments it somehow is IMHO automatic
assumption that one should have a choice to submitting one to such
a procedure..

since smoking, condoms and alcohol consumption all this stuff is
consider by the church as sinful because it brings harm to the body
how in heaven by any moral theology or anything like that
any church might want require their members to submit to
vacc. since it does carry KNOWN risks.

Help me God. I have never been more morally confused in my life.

[ma2two]

You need to read the exact wording of your state's exemption law. What they are saying may not be following the law.

I don't think you should be morally confused by this. You know what is right for your child. If the school is not following the law, confront them about it (after your child is accepted). If they are within the law, find another school. No school is worth poisoning your child.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by ma2two

you need to read the exact wording of your state's exemption law. What they are saying may not be following the law.

I don't think you should be morally confused by this. You know what is right for your child. If the school is not following the law, confront them about it (after your child is accepted). If they are within the law, find another school. no school is worth poisoning your child.

amen!!!

[poppan]

Organized religion is funny that way. I understand that you're in shock to find out your beliefs are not completely lined up with your religion's, as expressed by the school. That's a whole 'nother discussion and probably not one you want to have with an atheist.

BUT--on the vaccination front--I agree with the PPs. Forget the religious aspect of it--deal with that on your own good time. For now focus on whether what they're doing is legal in your state. If it's legal, move on and find another school. If it's not, challenge them on it. It's really that simple. Shelf the parts that are causing you angst and questioning about your religion--you really can deal with that later.

[BellaClaudia]

Thank you guys for all the support and info.
I will do just that. I will never subject my child to vacc.
especially considering the reason. I don't believe there
can be a right reason to do a wrong thing and certainly
choosing education over the well-being is one of them.

poppan, I apperciate your opinion, we might not share
the same realigion but I defenetely agree on the logic
of the problem and solution.

I will try to follow up and research on legality of their
refusal but being who they are I am pretty sure they
are standing ol legal ground with the earthly powers.

I am sure MY GOD does not approve their position.

I will certainly get back to the moral issue later once I
will deal with legality but still, moral issue stands.
If this certain faith does wrong thing for the right reasons
yet forbids the same to little ones... then this gets
more confusing by the minute on my faith'ometer.

[es1967]

Glad I saw this thread. I signed my son up for preshool and he's to start in two weeks. They just sent me a letter re vaccine history etc. MY sister in law said it was really easy to get the exemption. Hope she is right. So I guess my best bet is to just get the exemption and send it in with the pkg. Its a private school and my DH went to school with the owner. The problem is that DH would want me to get the vaccines if I tell him.

[BellaClaudia]

Dear es1967, that is the whole thing..

It seem that from the legal point there is no problem to get an extemption,
my problem is what happens really at private schools as they make their own rules and this is my consern weather it is even legal if the state law states one thing.. as in allowing such an extemption.

My understanding so far is taht the private school has the right to make their own rules weather it is leagal or not (different thing) but they do non the less..

so my take is.. if the school is generally accepting extempts then they will take your etempt no problem. if the school does not accept as a rule then I would say you might have a problem. I think that regardless of the connections you might have the thing is that the private school might actually be preassured by general idea that parents of other kids wants to make sure that all kids in the school are vacced without exceptions as if any problem arises.. the rest of the parents could sue the school for making some exception.. especially if this would be an exception from their normal policy.. the other parents would eat them alive and of course they would sue them to the bone.. for discriminative procedures..

so I think that your situation will be just as clear as mine at some point .. either they will take your extempt or not.. and I am super curious if they will.

In my case I already know they won't. now the question is..is it moral and legal.. but then again ther is the whole another answer..

take care and good luck

[es1967]

Yes, thats true and I'll have to see what happens. Maybe its even on the paperwork so I'll have to go thru thoroughly. DH opened it and I saw the form and quickly put it away. Why don't they send out this paperwork immediately after accepting your child?? They accepted him over 6 months ago and I rec'd nothing until 6 months later. Now its 2 weeks away. I guess he won't be able to go but My DH will probably insist on getting his vaccines.
Lets hope the director/owner is open to my views. Its s small school and she does seem like the open minded type w kids herself so hopefull will have some knowledge. With my luck she's probably going to be very provaccine and insist on these vaccines.