Does this sound like vaccination related proof?

[Lisa1970]

I am wondering if you would take this as a sort of "proof" of vaccination related problems. I know, it is not 100% proof, but I am thinking it is pretty good. I am not asking for any sort of legal reasons, just an opinion.

ALL of my children have been speech delayed, the first 4. Two of these have further problems even, that go in to the autism spectrum disorder level. Not as severe as even aspergers, just PDD-NOS. I read that it is thought that certain vaccinations can cause problems on the spectrum of communication disorders, which include dyslexia to speech delays to autism. I guess that is all on the spectrum of communication disorders. My little sister's children have dyslexia.

My dh and I were born in 1970, meaning, we never got but 2 vaccinations total. I never had anything after 5 yrs old. MMR was not in the US until late 70's. The rest came even later. So if we were going to have a vaccination reaction, we would not have as they were not given here yet. Small pox vaccination had just been discontinued shortly after we were born so we never got that either.

SO, we decided to not give the newest baby much for vaccinations. Actually, he has gotten a couple, but not many. Just 1 per visit. Now I am questioning the wisdom of that. The baby is 10 months old. He has 6 words in his vocabulary!! He is always pointing at things and repeating back sounds we make too! This is amazing for any child of mine.

What do you think? Thanks!!!

[heathergirl67]

I don't know about the vax part, but I strongly suspect what's going on with your kiddos is genetic. Especially because your sister's kids have the same speech delays. And autism has been proven to have a genetic link. Congrats on the new(ish) baby!

[ma2two]

I have to laugh whenever I hear someone say or imply, "It's not the vaccines, it's genetic!" Because of course it can be a genetic increased susceptibility to damage from toxins in the environment, including vaccines.

I think in general, parents of vaccine-free children find them to be more advanced/alert/happy/healthy than the average child. And it makes sense, since their bodies and brains aren't burdened by the vaccines.

I think you're on the right track, and if you are questioning vaccines at all, stop completely until you are sure.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by ma2two

I have to laugh whenever I hear someone say or imply, "It's not the vaccines, it's genetic!" Because of course it can be a genetic increased susceptibility to damage from toxins in the environment, including vaccines.
I think in general, parents of vaccine-free children find them to be more advanced/alert/happy/healthy than the average child. And it makes sense, since their bodies and brains aren't burdened by the vaccines.

I think you're on the right track, and if you are questioning vaccines at all, stop completely until you are sure.

This!

[peainthepod]

Originally Posted by ma2two

I think you're on the right track, and if you are questioning vaccines at all, stop completely until you are sure.

I agree. I don't know if you'll ever have definitive "proof", but if you're seeing a pattern and your gut is telling you to stop, then take a break from vaccinating and do more research until you can come to a decision that you're comfortable with.

Remember that you can always give vaccines at a later date, but once administered, they can never be taken back. Don't let anyone pressure you into a decision, whether you decide to continue vaccinating or not. The people who want you to vaccinate--or not vaccinate--don't have to live with the consequences of that decision, so try not to let anyone bully you either way.

[Angela512]

This is why I will not get my kids vaccinated. My uncle has 3 boys. The first 2 are fully, completely vaccinated. They are "so damaged" that the oldest will never, ever live on his own (sits with a helmet on and bangs his head against the wall type of thing). The 2nd may be able to live with assistance, but cannot go anywhere on his own...would need a live-in aide type of situation. The 3rd has never been vaccinated, ever. He is a healthy, fully functional, no delays, no issues at all, what-so-ever. Do I believe that my older 2 cousins are vaccine damaged? Yes, I do. Can I prove it? Not really.

It has already been proven (Hannah Pauling) that certain unknown/unseen genetic disorders can be "tripped" or "activated" by vaccinations. I truly believe this is what happened to my cousins.

So, knowing all of this...I am not willing to "chance" it and vaccinate my own kids. I see what my aunt and uncle go through (and the boys) and do not want that for my family.

So sorry to hear about your kids and your concern about vaccine damage. My concern is that there are a lot of neurotoxins contained within the vaccines. Most of the disorders you are speaking of are neurologically based. Have you thought of having them examined by a doctor who believes in vaccine damage (DAN doctors) and see if there is a way to possibly help them?

[Lisa1970]

I am going to call one and see what he charges. I clicked on the link someone provided and will be calling tomorrow. Unfortunately, he is not on my insurance. I think I called him before and did not go due to a lack of money.

[Angela512]

There are organizations out there that can help with the finances of a DAN doctor...I just read about it somewhere and do not remember where it was that I read it...

[ma2two]

Originally Posted by Angela512

There are organizations out there that can help with the finances of a DAN doctor...I just read about it somewhere and do not remember where it was that I read it...

Here's one http://www.generationrescue.org/about/grants

[Asiago]

The following is the National Vaccine Injury Program compensation table, it gives very clear descriptions of vaccine adverse reactions:
http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/table.htm

If you read under 'encephalopathy' it may be helpful, as well as the rest of the symptoms on the page. Perhaps you will recognize some of these symptoms (or not) if they had occurred in your children.