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Pretend you can't have fish or dairy... how do you get your Vit A?

post #1 of 9
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Let's just assume you can't (or wont ) eat any type of fish and you can't have your raw (or any) milk/dairy items.



What would your next step be?
post #2 of 9
Can you have cod liver oil? Liver has a lot but the taste of liver makes me gag. My mom made us drink cod liver oil growing up so that doesn't bother me as bad.


Carrots, broccoli, sweet potatoes and kale are good sources
post #3 of 9
I have a degree in Alternative Medicine & one of the focuses was on nutrition:

Good sources of Vitamin A (non-dairy/fish)

Carrots, raw
Sweet Potatoes, baked
Kale, boiled
Turnip Greens, cooked
Winter Squash, baked
Collard Greens, boiled
Swiss Chard, boiled
Red Bell Peppers, ray

All of these give you over 100% of the daily value, in descending order of value ...


I'm assuming you won't eat red meats either, because braised Calf's liver is a great source.
post #4 of 9
Nothing, nothing beats liver.

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Liver provides the most concentrated amount of vitamin A of all food sources. It is considered an efficient aid in vitamin A deficiency. The current Recommended Dietary Allowance of vitamin A is 800-1,000 micrograms (mcg) for adults. A 3 1/2-ounce serving of beef liver provides 18,000 mcg of vitamin A.
More on the nutrients in liver.
post #5 of 9
Okay, this is really a compromise, but if it's not a fish allergy, right now I'm taking Carlson's vitamin A supplements that are from fish oil. Ideal? Really not. I have recently started swallowing frozen beef liver chunks, it's really nice for energy levels and not nearly as icky as I expected given my non-love for cooked liver, but I don't think I can get enough that way.

And I am not certain that I convert enough of the beta-carotene in plant sources to meet my needs--that's one of the reasons I really like Price's approach, feels like a belt and suspenders approach to nutrition, to eat red/orange veggies, and leafy greens, AND animal sources for the actual, preformed A.

And FairyRae's point about liver? Dang, but just an ounce a day, which I can almost do with my frozen chunks, is amazingly high in so many nutrients. I'm sure there's plenty in it that we can't measure and quantify, but just looking at the substances we've named and measured, it's impressive.

Our food budget doesn't run to pastured/organic everything, but I try to get good quality eggs to help with this as well. Not a huge source, but we eat a lot of eggs, so getting really tasty, more nutritious ones seems a good move for us.
post #6 of 9
I make my own.
post #7 of 9
So the issue with beta carotene is that many people can't make their own vitamin A out of it. Children, for example, convert betacarotene poorly, and infants not at all. And adults convert betacarotene only if their digestive tract is in great condition, and only if a good amount of fat is eaten with the beta carotene.

Here's a good snippet from the WAPF vitamin A article:
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Under optimal conditions, humans can indeed convert carotenes to vitamin A. This occurs in the upper intestinal tract by the action of bile salts and fat-splitting enzymes. Of the entire family of carotenes, beta-carotene is most easily converted to vitamin A. Early studies indicated an equivalency of 4:1 of beta-carotene to retinol. In other words, four units of beta-carotene were needed to produce one unit of vitamin A. This ratio was later revised to 6:1 and recent research suggests an even higher ratio.5 This means that you have to eat an awful lot of vegetables and fruits to obtain even the daily minimal requirements of vitamin A, assuming optimal conversion.

But the transformation of carotene to retinol is rarely optimal. Diabetics and those with poor thyroid function, a group that could well include at least half the adult US population, cannot make the conversion. Children make the conversion very poorly and infants not at all — they must obtain their precious stores of vitamin A from animal fats — yet the low-fat diet is often recommended for children. Strenuous physical exercise, excessive consumption of alcohol, excessive consumption of iron (especially from "fortified" white flour and breakfast cereal), use of a number of popular drugs, excessive consumption of polyunsaturated fatty acids, zinc deficiency and even cold weather can hinder the conversion of carotenes to vitamin A, as does the lowfat diet.
That's from this article: http://dev.westonaprice.org/abcs-of-...in-a-saga.html

Sooooooo...this is for your son, right? So he's not going to convert beta carotenes very well. Can he learn to take pills, and swallow bits of frozen liver? Can he learn to like pate? Can you hide some liver in a fruit smoothie? (isn't there a thread on that around here?)

My son will take the frozen liver "pills", which I'm glad for. He started being able to take pills when he was four -- maybe it's worth a try with your son? Start with something really, really tiny.
post #8 of 9
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Originally Posted by ambereva View Post
I make my own.
post #9 of 9
Eggs contain vitamin A.
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