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she doesn't want me to be pregnant at the same time as her

post #1 of 25
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a friend of mine said to me, "I don't want anyone else to be pregnant when I am pregnant." and I can't seriously figure it out why.

Here is the short backstory. I have 2 kids. Her sil has 6. She is having a hard time getting pregnant with PCOS. She is having lapband surgery soon and has plans to get pregnant a time after that. My dh and I may start trying for our third next fall.... which coincedentally is the same time she would start trying. My dh saying we can have a 3rd is new and I was telling her about it... and she said, "So we would be pregnant at the same time if everything works out. I don't want anyone else to be pregnant when I am pregnant." She is afraid her sil may end up pregnant at that time again too.

I can't figure it out though. I am supposed to put a hold on my own family because she doesn't want to share something? I think she wants to be the center of attention after all this time of watching everyone else have kids and not being able too.... but how can she tell me she doesnt want me to be pregnant then because she might be?

I think what she is really saying is she doesnt want me to have any more kids because I have enough and she doesnt have any.

She also makes remarks quite frequently how she will never want more than one because anymore than that and you have at least one child not getting enough attention. I sort of take that personally... although I try to see that's just her point of view for her own family and it doesnt mean she is judging me or anyone else who has or wants more than one kid.

ANyway, just looking for someone to maybe help me see into her thinking here. I always wanted other people to be pregnant with me because its a hard thing to go through and it makes it easier if you have someone going through it at the same time too.
post #2 of 25
grrr, does she have to be your friend?

That said, people change after having a child, I'd probably be quite embarrassed to hear some things I said pre-child.

The best part about my pregnancy was that I had other prego gals to experience it with.

ADDED: oh and I would not put my ttc plans on hold if I were you, that is just selfish of her to ask you.
post #3 of 25
I would gently let her know that she is entitled to her own feelings, but other people's pregnancies are their business, not hers.
post #4 of 25
could she have been joking, or just had a moment of verbal diaherria? I mean, I can understand how she must feel to an extent, but a true friend would still be happy for you, right?
post #5 of 25
I think she feels like she's stood by and seen everyone else get all this special attention and now she feels like it's "her turn" and the whole world just needs to drop everything and focus on her. I'd tell her that if she doesn't want anyone in her life to be pregnant while she's pregnant, it sounds like she has the following two options:

1) She can postpone trying until after you, SIL, and all her other contemporaries have gone through menopause. Of course then there's the possibility that she'll be past childbearing age, too ... also there's the possibilty that some of you will be becoming grandmas and she'll have to share the spotlight with your daughters and daughters in law.

2) She can ditch her current set of friends and relatives and, I was going to say make new ones who are already post-menopause, but then I realized that these friends would also be likely to be becoming grandmas so that doesn't really work either ... I suppose she CAN just ditch her whole support system so that it'll be just her and her dh ... then she can be the only one pregnant since he can't get pregnant ...

But, chances are, once the baby's there she'll want other mom-friends ... you could always be compassionate and tell her that if she decides to ditch you because you're pregnant and she wants to be the only one, you'll "leave the light on" just in case she later realizes that your friendship is more important than her compulsion to time everything.
post #6 of 25
After all her surgery and PCOS troubles it may be years before she gets pregnant. You are supposed to wait? Come on give me a break!
post #7 of 25
I honestly think I'd give her a pass on this one. She can't help how she feels, and I think it's sort of understandable that she would feel that way. But as long as she's not actually *asking* you to wait to get pregnant, I think I'd just chalk it up as maybe not being the most appropriate thing to have said, but rather just her saying how she feels.
post #8 of 25
This is an example of the truism: We don't have to say everything that we think.

I can understand her having a lurking feeling of wanting to be the center of attention when she finally gets pregnant. That's natural.

But it's also a bit selfish, so it's one of those things that you think, but don't say outloud... and you work to overcome that feeling.

As to the "more than one child and someone gets neglected" crap, I'd gently call her out on that. Say something like, "Are you saying that my Jimmy and Susie are neglected? Because they seem pretty happy to be alive."

Good luck to you and your friend!
post #9 of 25
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Originally Posted by rhiOrion View Post
I honestly think I'd give her a pass on this one. She can't help how she feels, and I think it's sort of understandable that she would feel that way. But as long as she's not actually *asking* you to wait to get pregnant, I think I'd just chalk it up as maybe not being the most appropriate thing to have said, but rather just her saying how she feels.
This is a good point. She just expressed a feeling she was having and probably doesn't really "expect" everyone else to stop making love just because it's "her turn."
post #10 of 25
right. she'll have to convince about a million women around the world evey day if she wants to be the only one pregnant. poor thing. i feel sorry for her. she sounds extremely emotionally immature. laundrycrisis hit the nail on the head. for all of us, we only get a say in what WE do, you don't get a vote in when other people decide to procreate, or do anything else. so like it or not, when we cant have what we want, we have to keep trekking on. i think it's going to be devastating to her though, if you get pg easily in the fall, her sil does, and she has her surgery and starts trying, and has obstacles. it doesnt sound like she's got a whole lot of emotional reserves or sense of perspective or empathy to deal with that.
post #11 of 25
Infertility changes people. And quite frankly ime unless you've been on that road you cannot understand - you can empathize but it's not the same.

So she said what she was thinking - she's obviously well aware she cannot control the situation or she would have already done so. Honestly I'd overlook it - & like a pp said it is quite likely her infertility struggle will not end quickly as planned.

As for the one child thing - I see this as a defensive thing. When getting pregnant at all seems unlikely it sometimes means we have to readjust our expectations. This just sounds like someone who has had to justify in her own mind why one child is ok.

It may seem she's being selfish but quite honestly I think she needs some sensitivity. Infertility is the most life changing & bittering experience I have gone through.
post #12 of 25
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Originally Posted by rhiOrion View Post
I honestly think I'd give her a pass on this one. She can't help how she feels, and I think it's sort of understandable that she would feel that way. But as long as she's not actually *asking* you to wait to get pregnant, I think I'd just chalk it up as maybe not being the most appropriate thing to have said, but rather just her saying how she feels.
post #13 of 25
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When getting pregnant at all seems unlikely it sometimes means we have to readjust our expectations. This just sounds like someone who has had to justify in her own mind why one child is ok.
I totally understand that. But she said that more than one child = neglect to a mother of two/three. Not cool.
post #14 of 25
She may be afraid that if she's pregnant at the same time as someone else, and she loses it, that the other person's baby will be a constant reminder to her. She may also want the pleasure of being pregnant on her own, after seeing so many people get that pleasure before her. Infertility is one of the most painful things i have ever experienced. I have also lost a pregnancy and has my SIL give birth just days after my due date. VERY painful. That may be where she's coming from.

That being said... She's allowed to feel what she needs to feel, and you are allowed to plan your family when you want it. You can make your own choices, but she probably needs to be able to voice her feelings.
post #15 of 25
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Originally Posted by VillageMom6 View Post
This is an example of the truism: We don't have to say everything that we think.
If only people would honor this when "consoling" someone going through m/c and/or infertility by saying "just relax" or "things happen for a reason." It goes both ways. Please don't take that the wrong way, I just think that infertility is one of the most silent and misunderstood sufferings, and this woman deserves some empathy.
post #16 of 25
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If only people would honor this when "consoling" someone going through m/c and/or infertility by saying "just relax" or "things happen for a reason." It goes both ways. Please don't take that the wrong way, I just think that infertility is one of the most silent and misunderstood sufferings, and this woman deserves some empathy.
I totally agree... I've lost a child, too. People sometimes said things that were, well, less than helpful.

But they were coming from a place of wanting to bring consolation. I find that easier than this friend expressing her more selfish thoughts. Believe me, I don't blame her for having those thoughts.

It's just that nothing good can come from saying outloud that she wants to be the only one pregnant and that having more than one child is neglectful.
post #17 of 25
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Originally Posted by Tear78 View Post
She may be afraid that if she's pregnant at the same time as someone else, and she loses it, that the other person's baby will be a constant reminder to her. She may also want the pleasure of being pregnant on her own, after seeing so many people get that pleasure before her. Infertility is one of the most painful things i have ever experienced. I have also lost a pregnancy and has my SIL give birth just days after my due date. VERY painful. That may be where she's coming from.

That being said... She's allowed to feel what she needs to feel, and you are allowed to plan your family when you want it. You can make your own choices, but she probably needs to be able to voice her feelings.
I agree with this fully, having lost a baby... then having my nephew be born on my exact due date for that baby... it was hard.

I do not see her as wanting to be selfish and be pregnant alone, but rather not wanting to lose the baby and have someone elses child be a constant reminder of it. It was one of my biggest fears this pregnancy when my husbands cousin announced she was due 2 weeks after me. Terrified it would happen again...
post #18 of 25
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Originally Posted by VillageMom6 View Post
I totally agree... I've lost a child, too. People sometimes said things that were, well, less than helpful.
I'm sorry for your loss. I still think that this woman deserves a break. The OP should feel free to make her own choices in life, and quite honestly this may put a strain on their relationship, but the pain that woman is feeling deserves empathy and a listening ear. Infertility breeds ugly, deep, dark feelings and thoughts, and they're valid, and she probably needs someone to talk to. My best friend got pregnant while we're still TTC. She decided not the keep the baby. It could have killed our friendship, but we talked about it, and shared our feelings, and listened to each other, and it was HARD, but we made it. However hard feelings may be for others, talking about it and trying to understand helps. Which, btw, OP, kudos for posting and trying to understand her point of view. I hope she is willing to hear yours, too.
post #19 of 25
Thread Starter 
OP here. Thanks everyone for your replies. It is a lot of food for thought. I know she is grieving at her inability to concieve right now. I pray often that it will happen for her soon. I do not know HOW to support her through this. I just don't know what to say. I listen, but what response can I give? I don't understand what its like to be her, especially to constantly be around me.... I was supposed to be infertile with her, but I had surgery that fixed my uterine problems and left her to be infertile alone. I grieve for her, but I am truly at a loss as how to support her through this.

We will continue to TCC when our time comes, I just hope and pray she can do it at that time too.... so if she cant be the only one who IS pregnant, at least she won't be the only one NOT pregnant... again.
post #20 of 25
Nottheonlyone - honestly there is very little you can say that will help her. With my infertility I eventually had to retreat (as in move out of the country) 'cause it all just hurt too much all the time. Nothing anyone said helped but much of what people did was helpful. Don't bring it up unless she does. Give her the opportunity to gracefully back out of child centered events & baby showers. Let her vent when she needs to (I guarantee her dark, ugly feelings hurt her more than anyone) & try hard not to judge.

Here's an interesting blog post: http://www.blogher.com/10-things-not...fertile-friend
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