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post #1 of 9
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Just looking for feedback from anyone who may have used any of the MBTP programs.

I've purchase a single unit before (we plan to use it this year) on Little House. With my older DS we're pretty well set with what we're using for curriculum anyway. I'm tempted by their new 10-12 curriculum but it's SO expensive, even if we just get the online version and the science kits, getting our own books from the library, it's still over $400.

But now I'm looking at the 5-7 curriculum for DD. She's only 3.5, but quite gifted, she meets the prerequisites of knowing all letters and sounds, starting to read C-V-C words, and understanding numbers to 20. And looking through the samples, there are some activities similar to some things we've done already, with some Teachers Book Bag units for instance.

We're a very Waldorf and CM-inspired family and I'm totally on board with delayed academics, but this girl ASKS for worksheets. She was very upset the other day when she couldn't find her 'green book for drawing numbers in', and I couldn't figure out what she meant, until I realized it was the green binder in which I had placed all the printed out worksheets from some e-books I'd got from currclick... Lots of finish-the-pattern, colour-by-numbers, tracing pictures, circle-the-number-of-objects, that kind of thing.

She spent a good hour just doing worksheets from the binder of her choosing, and today did some more as well, completely on her own initiative (I didn't know she was doing them until she came to show me her finished sheets!)

She also loves the hands-on projects, when DS was doing a science project involving sprouting some seeds, she had to do it too.

ANYWAY, long story short, I think she'd really enjoy this program. BUT, #1 it's expensive, #2 do we REALLY need any curriculum at all, even if she would enjoy it, and #3... one of the sample lessons, on animal habitats, has a caption and illustration for "A penguin waddles in the arctic".

Uh.... okay. A very CONFUSED penguin waddles in the arctic!!! If this basic error made its way in, are there other problems with the program as well? Is it a way overpriced terrible hunk of garbage? Or is it great, with just this single little (little? only half the globe little...) mistake??
post #2 of 9
I used part of the 5-7 Environment Concept when my big girl was a little under 3.5. We went through the Habitat portion before I sold it. It was ok, over priced. I didn't find the material to be overly challenging. I made it more in depth by adding in my own projects for her. She did do very well with it.

I think MBTP is a "love it or not" sort of curriculum. I didn't particularly care for it and have no plans to buy it again.

ETA: I don't remember the penguin part!!
post #3 of 9
ugh. i had typed a more personal response but my cat just deleted it all. so i'll just say, yes! i agree with kgianforti!
post #4 of 9
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Thanks! Especially kgianforti, good to hear the experience from someone with a similar-aged kid.

Now if only I can find something similar that's not overpriced. I do love literature-based, and I know of some good unit studies which have lots of projects, but DD does enjoy the worksheets too. One of the appeals of MBTP to me was that it had both.

I also liked that it seemed level-appropriate for her. Most preschool curriculum out there is allllllllllllllll about learning to recognize letters, stuff that she's far past... but kindergarten curriculum is conceptually too advanced, or requires too much writing. The 5-7 MBTP had good options for the child to just write a few letters here are there, lots of parental dictation instead of the kid writing, etc. Which of course I realize I could adapt from any program, but I'm lazy (lol) and it's easier when it's already set up like that.

And of course I also realize we don't need any curriculum at all! I went WAY overboard with curriculum for DS, forcing it on him when he was young and not into it at all, so I was totally planning to completely unschool/Waldorf/Montessori/child-led with her until at LEAST age 7. Then she starts begging for worksheets and crying when she can't find her book. *sigh*
post #5 of 9
I have also been thinking about this program. I have a just-turned-5 year old DD who is on grade level as far as recognizing letters and knowing their sounds but is slightly advanced in math and is well into addition and subtraction. She still struggled with writing and I'm trying to avoid a curriculum with a heavy writing component for now. I have been looking in depth at MBTP for her, as well as for my gifted 6 year old DS. I love that the program is literature based and that will thrill my DS!

Anyway, I think my final decision is that I am going to use the MBTP curriculum for my 6yo DS (still deciding between 6-8 or 7-9) but for my DD I am going to try the curriculum from Lesson Pathways (http://www.lessonpathways.com). I was hesitant about a free site and worried that the lesson plans wouldn't be comprehensive enough but I've gone through the curriculum page by page and I think it will be a great fit for her. It has LOTS of crafts and hands-on activities, which she loves, and lots of opportunities to build self-confidence. She is a serious perfectionist and won't even TRY something if she thinks she might get it wrong so this approach will be perfect for her. I'm going to skip their math section, though, and use Saxon math. I used their placement test and she placed well into 1st grade math. She adores math worksheets and lots of repetition so that she is very comfortable with the material and has lots of chances to "succeed" before she moves to the next concept.

I'd love to hear about others' experiences with MBTP!
post #6 of 9
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Originally Posted by bethanyclaire View Post

Anyway, I think my final decision is that I am going to use the MBTP curriculum for my 6yo DS (still deciding between 6-8 or 7-9)!
What worked well for me in regards to picking a level was basing it on my big girl's cognitive age verses her chronological age. They also have a list of pre-requisites to use as guidance.

Tankgirl - I considered MBTP as our science. So after it didn't work out for us, I went ahead and bought Sonlight Science K. A complete hit!! It's also a multi-media program including books, activity sheets, DVD and experiments. It is also a full year of curriculum. It's also for the 5-7 age range and it's fast moving (but you can stop and go more in depth). It's designed to touch on a lot of topics as kids begin to explore science.
post #7 of 9
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I think I'm now leaning towards RS4K (from Pandia) for science... I like the read-aloud story format... just not certain if it's still "too old" for her yet. And it doesn't have the social studies components like MBTP.

Oh well, I just bought the entire set of last year's Teachers Book Bags for all age groups, I think I'll just focus on those and that (along with RS Math which she's already doing) is enough "school" for her for now!!!
post #8 of 9
I was extremely underwhelmed by MBTP. It really did seem like glorified worksheets. The best part about it was the literature recommended (which had to be bought separately).
post #9 of 9
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Originally Posted by bethanyclaire View Post
I have also been thinking about this program. I have a just-turned-5 year old DD who is on grade level as far as recognizing letters and knowing their sounds but is slightly advanced in math and is well into addition and subtraction. She still struggled with writing and I'm trying to avoid a curriculum with a heavy writing component for now. I have been looking in depth at MBTP for her, as well as for my gifted 6 year old DS. I love that the program is literature based and that will thrill my DS!

Anyway, I think my final decision is that I am going to use the MBTP curriculum for my 6yo DS (still deciding between 6-8 or 7-9) but for my DD I am going to try the curriculum from Lesson Pathways (http://www.lessonpathways.com). I was hesitant about a free site and worried that the lesson plans wouldn't be comprehensive enough but I've gone through the curriculum page by page and I think it will be a great fit for her. It has LOTS of crafts and hands-on activities, which she loves, and lots of opportunities to build self-confidence. She is a serious perfectionist and won't even TRY something if she thinks she might get it wrong so this approach will be perfect for her. I'm going to skip their math section, though, and use Saxon math. I used their placement test and she placed well into 1st grade math. She adores math worksheets and lots of repetition so that she is very comfortable with the material and has lots of chances to "succeed" before she moves to the next concept.

I'd love to hear about others' experiences with MBTP!
Thank you for this recommendation!

I just cannot stomach putting out so much for the MBtP curriculum.
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