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post #161 of 318
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Originally Posted by Smylingeyz View Post
I'M SO CONFUSED!!!

First, here's my chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2ab1c6

Temp dip today, but only about halfway to my normal CL. This afternoon I started spotting, but it was just a tiny bit of brown and didn't pick up at all. I'm wearing a tiny liner to bed, that's how light it is. The reason I'm confused is, I've never started AF like that ever in my life, it's always super heavy right away, and I've never had brown discharge until the spotting at the end of my period. Also, I POAS yesterday, and it was negative again. So it seems like it shouldn't be implantation spotting, but it doesn't seem like my period at all. I was relieved when I thought I was on CD1, but now I just don't know what's going on again... and the more I think about it the more I hope I'm not pg.

That temp drop looks like AF to me. I wouldn't worry - I bet today your flow picks up. I agree that w/a bfn you're in the clear.
post #162 of 318
Yup, Smyling, the drop looks like AF to me, too. I'm sure you have a clearer picture by now!
post #163 of 318
Ok I am finally convinced I am not pg.
My temp was up a bit this morning, but I also started a light AF. Last night I looked up implantation spotting and it said it could be like brown spotting, accompanied by a small temp dip, which totally freaked me out, but it seems more like AF now, even though it's light. My body was seriously playing with my mind this month.
So now I'm trying to figure out what was off in my chart and when I really O'ed. Since I have a 12-13 day LP and it can't really vary, does that mean my first temp rise was on CD18?
post #164 of 318
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Originally Posted by Smylingeyz View Post
Ok I am finally convinced I am not pg.
My temp was up a bit this morning, but I also started a light AF.
Whew!

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Originally Posted by Smylingeyz View Post
Last night I looked up implantation spotting and it said it could be like brown spotting, accompanied by a small temp dip, which totally freaked me out
14-16dpo would be very, very late for implantation spotting and temp dip. It usually happens within a day or two of implantation, which can occur from 5-12dpo. Usually, if implantation happens after 12dpo, the pg isn't viable.

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So now I'm trying to figure out what was off in my chart and when I really O'ed. Since I have a 12-13 day LP and it can't really vary, does that mean my first temp rise was on CD18?
I guess it's possible you didn't O until cd14, your peak day. That would make your lp 14 days, which would be within normal variation if it's usually 12-13 days.

OK, so I have to ask although I'm sure you probably already addressed this. I just can't remember. If you don't want to be pg, why did you dtd on an ewcf day or was that with protection of some sort?
post #165 of 318
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OK, so I have to ask although I'm sure you probably already addressed this. I just can't remember. If you don't want to be pg, why did you dtd on an ewcf day or was that with protection of some sort?
We did w/d. I put it down in case I did get pg I could figure out what happened, but I wish FF let you specify or something. And even though we hate to do that, I feel confident in the way we do w/d that there's not much if any pg risk because we stop WAY before the end.
post #166 of 318
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Originally Posted by Smylingeyz View Post
We did w/d. I put it down in case I did get pg I could figure out what happened, but I wish FF let you specify or something. And even though we hate to do that, I feel confident in the way we do w/d that there's not much if any pg risk because we stop WAY before the end.
W/D is very effective if done properly. I saw that you have Xs for before O and PM for after O so I did wonder after I asked if you used that to designate. It is a pain trying to keep track of that on FF. On Ovusoft you can record protected sex.
post #167 of 318
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Originally Posted by Smylingeyz View Post
Ok I am finally convinced I am not pg.
My temp was up a bit this morning, but I also started a light AF. Last night I looked up implantation spotting and it said it could be like brown spotting, accompanied by a small temp dip, which totally freaked me out, but it seems more like AF now, even though it's light. My body was seriously playing with my mind this month.
So now I'm trying to figure out what was off in my chart and when I really O'ed. Since I have a 12-13 day LP and it can't really vary, does that mean my first temp rise was on CD18?
Well I don't want to say i told you so....but...... LOL
I think cd17 with a fallback rise is even possible as O date, but still say cd14 with a slightly longer LP is more likely.

I am pretty confident with w/d too. DH has never accidently not pulled out. And I mark w/d sex on my chart too and leave the condom ones not marked. (just in case I need to look back as well).
Congrats on AF!
post #168 of 318
So, to make w/d effective, do you just make sure dh w/d way early? Or what? One of my bfs if pg right now from w/d, so I'm just kinda leery.
Congrats on AF, smiley!

AFM: I thought I'd three days ago, but my temp was low again this morning, and I've been having a ton of EWCM today and yesterday, so I guess I haven't o'd yet...the temp rise for two days is kinda weird, though. My only thought is that the night before I had the first temp rise I threw up and felt sick to my stomach, so maybe my body temp was higher because it was trying to fight a bug or something? Ugh. Frustrating. I was so hoping that I had o'd.

DH was also so looking forward to dtd in the next couple of days, too, lol!
post #169 of 318
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Originally Posted by MarineWife View Post
W/D is very effective if done properly. I saw that you have Xs for before O and PM for after O so I did wonder after I asked if you used that to designate. It is a pain trying to keep track of that on FF. On Ovusoft you can record protected sex.
It was just coincidence that it was recorded differently, but that's a really good idea! Is Ovusoft free too? I never looked into that one.
post #170 of 318
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Originally Posted by Smylingeyz View Post
It was just coincidence that it was recorded differently, but that's a really good idea! Is Ovusoft free too? I never looked into that one.
Wasn't my idea. I think it was Mel who first gave me that idea.

Ovusoft is not free but it's not expensive. It's a one time $35 payment for the software. You upload it to your computer so all of the data is stored on computer rather than on the internet. You can still upload and share your charts, though. It's written for getting or avoiding pg so it has a lot of not-pg features that FF does not have.
post #171 of 318
So here's my crazy chart.

Plan B was on the evening of cd8, now I'm not sure what's going on. I was traveling in some really hot places for the last week but the high temps don't really seem to correspond with the nights that I was really feeling hot or anything.

I got some pretty significant bleeding (light to medium, definitely more than spotting) but I just recorded it as spotting because I wanted to see it as one chart, since I know I didn't O. Is there a way to merge charts?
post #172 of 318
Ladies, here is my chart:
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2047a5

Thoughts on why I could have had two high temps and then a drop? Ugh.
post #173 of 318
I think it was probably a fluke, looking at your CF data. Maybe a bit of sickness or something, I think you mentioned feeling ill? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else.
post #174 of 318
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Thoughts on why I could have had two high temps and then a drop? Ugh.
Who knows? Could be any number of reasons! But it's a good example of why you need 3 to confirm.
post #175 of 318
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Who knows? Could be any number of reasons! But it's a good example of why you need 3 to confirm.
Speaking of 3 temps to confirm. . .
Does this look definite?!


My DH just left with little DS to get a tetnus shot -- I'm no vax except when my baby goes knee first into a rusty screw in a neighbor's yard. . . We do what we can
post #176 of 318

Grasping at Straws - X-posted in Whatevering

I'm grasping at straws here but I'm wondering how probable you all think it is that I Oed on cd18 rather than cd13. That would make me only 4w4d at the time of the u/s and closer to the size of the sac the doc measured. I put in that tiny bit of ewcf that I had on cd17 internally. I originally only had it in my notes because it was just a tiny bit and I don't usually check internally. I also switched the O detector to Advanced and it moved my crosshairs to cd18.

Honestly, I don't feel pg at all anymore so I don't really have much hope.

post #177 of 318
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Originally Posted by RaraAvis View Post
Speaking of 3 temps to confirm. . .
Does this look definite?!


My DH just left with little DS to get a tetnus shot -- I'm no vax except when my baby goes knee first into a rusty screw in a neighbor's yard. . . We do what we can
Oh ouch! I hear you on that one! I'd do the same!

MW - The only thing that gives me a hang up is that bfp at 6 dpo w/that change. I mean, its POSSIBLE...
And you did say it was a faint line, like a normal person would say it was neg. When did you get your first definite bfp?
I know none of this is going to make you feel any better. The thing is that w/o that data in the beginning of your cycle (which is why I chart during !!) there's just no way to know. There is no answer. Only best guesses. And right now, no matter what your best guess is, it only explains so much.



Hang in there, mama.
post #178 of 318
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Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes View Post
MW - The only thing that gives me a hang up is that bfp at 6 dpo w/that change. I mean, its POSSIBLE...
And you did say it was a faint line, like a normal person would say it was neg. When did you get your first definite bfp?
That was my first definite BFP, 8/4. I got one on both the IC and FRER, which was more obvious. The IC website says it can detect a pg as early as 6dpo but I do think that's probably very rare. I got my first bfp with ds3 at 7dpo, though, so I do know I get early bfps.
post #179 of 318
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Hmmm...ok. Like I said, POSSIBLE, and since you've gotten early bfps before it's probably more likely. In that case, that O day does look pretty likely.

ETA - and much more in line w/your previous cycle's O days.
post #180 of 318
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Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes View Post
Hmmm...ok. Like I said, POSSIBLE, and since you've gotten early bfps before it's probably more likely. In that case, that O day does look pretty likely.

ETA - and much more in line w/your previous cycle's O days.
That's pretty much what I just said in the other thread. Great minds think alike.

But I did want to add that I would consider it a good thing that the spotting stopped. This feels like such an intrusive question, so I apologize, but with your previous losses, how did the spotting and bleeding compare, was there ever a pause in bleeding and then it starting again?
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