Which Diseases Disappeared On Their Own?

[Xenogenesis]

I'm so knackered me-thinks my brain has gone nite-nites without me.



I'm curious which communicable diseases have run their course without a vaccine campaign and are no longer considered a problem?

Scarlet Fever?

Bubonic Plague?

[Mothra]

I know that scarlet fever is still out there and I'm pretty sure that bubonic plague is, too. Scarlet fever is rather benign in most cases, though.

I can't think of any.

[AllyRae]

I'm pretty sure that most erradicatd diseases are eradicated because of vax's. And scarlet fever still exists...I got it 3 years ago during an outbreak on my campus...

[Tracy]

and of course the opposite question...which diseases are running rampant since the rise in vaccinations...
autism, add/add-hd/allergies/aspargers/asthma..... all that aluminum and other creepy additives.

[charmarty]

excallent point Tracy

[suschi]

TB has been on a steady decline in the US since 1992 without the aid of a vaccine. In spite of this, a vaccine is in the works for release in the US. Just as the need for the pertussis vaccine is being worked right now, you will see the same marketing push for a TB vaccine.

Then 30 years from now, we will see the TB vaccine getting credit for the decline of the disease.

C

[MammaV]

Don't foget that pertussis, measles and chickenpox are still quite common in appropriately vaccinated individuals. Not to mention "new" dseases which seem exactly the same as "erradicated" vpd's...it's a little fishy...

[Xenogenesis]

Great Point, Tracy.

Just how many auto-immune disorders are now known?

Is it a Ko-inky-dink they came on the scene at the same time as massive vaccine campaigns?

I was interested in scarlet fever and The Plague because I was under the impression that these two never had a vaccine developed for them. Or if there ever was one, it was not used because of death, etc. resulting from them.

There might be others.

[Xenogenesis]

I guess the title of my thread might have been "which diseases have declined drastically on their own w/o a massive campaign". That's what intrigues me about the two I mentioned. And Thanks suschi for that information about TB. Too bad to hear about the vaccine in the makings. Countries that have known about TB and controlling it for years have been using "kefir" since how many years ago to heal their patients. I heard this is where the hospital-model originated. From the kefir/tb healing houses. I think Dom (Thanks Dom!) has something about that on his kefir site too.

Peace & Be Well.

[Jazmommie]

I remember seeing graphs of measles,mumps,rubella,& polio showing the drastic decline in all of them since late 1890s to early 1900's-
in Neil Z Millers book (VACCINES -ARE THEY REALLY SAFE & EFFECTIVE)there are some good ones.
All decreasing before vaxes were even invented.

[Jazmommie]

ACTUALLY RUBELLA INCREASED AFTER THE VAX WAS INTRODUCED IN 1969.

ALSO INCLUDES PERTUSIS-DECREASED BEFORE VAX CAME OUT.

[luvmytwo]

Not to change the subject....

this thread got me thinking of Polio. My mother respects my decision to not vaccinate; but is still skeptical. Polio is what she always brings up since she grew up in that era with the dreaded "iron lung". She swears that the vaccine is what has eradicated it from the hemisphere.

I haven't read anywhere how polio has slowly died away if not for vaccine. Anyone have any info. on this?

[annalily]

Here's some:
http://www.*********/vaccine/polio1.html

And from vaclib: http://www.vaclib.org/intro/present/index4.htm

[MsMary]

IIRC and somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't scarlett fever basically just strep throat with a rash?

[Nemmer]

That's what I've read, too, MsMary.

[Xenogenesis]

I Had Strep Throat With a Rash.

The good doc gave me a steroidal cream for the rash.

Gotta luv that good ol' magic prescription pad.

[Smilemomma]

My dh had a vaccine for Black Plague before he went to Desert Storm I. He also was vaccinated for Sand Fly Fever, whatever the h**l THAT is, as well as a plethora of others.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Originally posted by Last Minute
I was interested in scarlet fever and The Plague because I was under the impression that these two never had a vaccine developed for them. Or if there ever was one, it was not used because of death, etc. resulting from them.

Just finished reading a fascinating Russian thesis which suggests that some of the epidemics of the plague were diphtheria.

So, can we even trust historical diagnosis anyway?

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Oh, and said thesis analyses the data worldwide, and talks about the huge decrease of diphtheria, before the vaccine attributable to better living conditions and hygiene.

But still thinks the vaccine is the best thing since sliced bread.

And says that diphtheria couldn't spread in the Western World from Russia because of better living conditions, diet and hygiene.... (editted to add... and of course, the good childhood immunisation programs)

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[Xenogenesis]

I'm gonna go throw up now . . .