Paleo and Primal Living...in August! - Page 2

[lil_earthmomma]

Originally Posted by rhianna813

Hi All,

I occasionally post and read a lot on the TF forum. This week I am experimenting with eating no grain, no sugar and less fruit (to help with the no sugar hahaha). And eating more veggies with each meal, plus healthy fats and protein, including more nuts. I have my DH on board for 4 -5 day trial. But he went and purchased a bunch of cereal anyway. DS is not included…. He is the pickiest eater and it’s been a slow process in general changing his habits. So far he is vegetarian, like I used to be.

Breakfast was crustless quiche with eggs, milk, spinach and garlic (from garden) and a bit of cheese
Lunch will be grassfed beef with taco seasoning (homemade) and garden green salad with salsa and sour cream
Dinner will be roasted chicken and garlic sautéed zucchini also from the garden

The biggest challenge is financial. Our food budget is small and very paycheck to paycheck. We both know veggies cost more than bread, pasta and cereal. But summer is a good time to save on veggies so we’re giving it a try. I do have DH on board to expand our garden. We are making 4 new raised beds this fall for next year. He ate his first garden fresh beets this year and went crazy over them!

I am very inspired by TF books and also Mark’s Daily Apple website. I do not have his book tho.

I am also making an exercise goal to get in a daily walk, for starters.

I will check in on this tread and thanks for any support!

Rhianna

Welcome!

I'm on a very limited budget too! Yes bread/rice/beans are cheap, but here are some cheap alternatives.

Bone broth! Make your own. This nourishing broth will help you make soups, stews, sauces and gravies and stretch your veggies and meat!

Get creative with the cheaper cuts of meat! Ground meat, cheap roasts etc all just need a little love to become delicious nourishing meals.

"Don't let perfect be the enemy of good." Mark Sisson.

[Punchy Kaby]

Chocolate questions?

What brands are soy free, I'm talking dark chocolate bars, ready to eat.

Anyone know about bromine content in chocolate? I've done some searching and what I gleen is that it's the soy in chocolate that gives it it's bromine content. Not sure if this is correct.

Welcome to the new people! I'm still very new to this way of eating myself.

[newcastlemama]

Checking in!

I found out I was pregnant a few days ago! I thought I was just felt nauseous detoxing from camping food (I never really had a pp af since I had my 2.5 yo so I did not get the clue of missing my peroid or anything. I chatted with my midwife on the phone and she thinks I am between 5-7 weeks pregnant.

Anyway, I am still eating healthy but the only thing that sounded good this morning was an almond waffle. I am planning on strength trainng at the gym this afternoon.

[rhianna813]

Originally Posted by lil_earthmomma

Welcome!

I'm on a very limited budget too! Yes bread/rice/beans are cheap, but here are some cheap alternatives.

Bone broth! Make your own. This nourishing broth will help you make soups, stews, sauces and gravies and stretch your veggies and meat!

Get creative with the cheaper cuts of meat! Ground meat, cheap roasts etc all just need a little love to become delicious nourishing meals.

"Don't let perfect be the enemy of good." Mark Sisson.

I have chicken stock in my freezer that I make in my crock pot. It's not getting a ton use right now because it's summer and I make less soups.

Ahhh the other part of my struggle - cooking meat. I was vegetarian for a long time. About 18 years. And meal plannin, buying and cooking meat is so new to me. Been doing it for a over a year now and it's slow going. So far I think I am buying the cheaper cuts and turning them into boot strap leather for dinner. Yum

Any weblinks for learning meat buying and cooking would be awesome!

Rhianna

[princesstutu]

Hi, again, everyone! I was up half the night researching food. Haven't spent this much time reading about food since I went TF a few years back and was doing the WAP stuff. My eating habits have really gotten off track over the last 2 years and I'm so thankful for threads like this right now. I have gut issues and I've got to get better. I had stopped eating fermented foods due to food sensitivities, but last night I bought some dairy-free yogurt starter. That was so expensive! But my health and the health of my kids is totally worth it! (Right? Convince me!)

Looking into a goat share, now. And, still reading about paleo and primal diets. That Mike Apple site is extensive! I have to take breaks. Can someone remind me what he says about lignans? Why are they bad (if I'm remembering correctly)? I want to add more flax to my diet, I think, but I thought he said something about lignans not being good and flax seeds are high in lignans.

My mind feels overloaded!

[sellendie]

Hey everyone! I am excited about this month. I just bought Tacfit Commando and DH and I started yesterday. Looking forward to this weeks meal plan - Sausage and tomato frittata, zucchini lasagna, Thai Beef Larb with cabbage, Sweet vidalia brats with kraut, salmon with greek veggies.

[Feb2003]

Originally Posted by newcastlemama

I found out I was pregnant a few days ago!

SO exciting!!! May you be blessed with a healthy pregnancy, birth, and baby!!

[lil_earthmomma]

Originally Posted by rhianna813

I have chicken stock in my freezer that I make in my crock pot. It's not getting a ton use right now because it's summer and I make less soups.

Ahhh the other part of my struggle - cooking meat. I was vegetarian for a long time. About 18 years. And meal plannin, buying and cooking meat is so new to me. Been doing it for a over a year now and it's slow going. So far I think I am buying the cheaper cuts and turning them into boot strap leather for dinner. Yum

Any weblinks for learning meat buying and cooking would be awesome!

Rhianna

Aw, that sounds rough. I was in a similar boat, I never ate meat until I met my husband. Luckily my husband is great in the kitchen and taught me so much! I personally love my meat rare, I find it so much more palettable that way.

I'll come back a little later with some tips!

[sapphire_chan]

Originally Posted by rhianna813

I have chicken stock in my freezer that I make in my crock pot. It's not getting a ton use right now because it's summer and I make less soups.

Ahhh the other part of my struggle - cooking meat. I was vegetarian for a long time. About 18 years. And meal plannin, buying and cooking meat is so new to me. Been doing it for a over a year now and it's slow going. So far I think I am buying the cheaper cuts and turning them into boot strap leather for dinner. Yum

Any weblinks for learning meat buying and cooking would be awesome!

Rhianna

I have huge hunks of chicken thigh marinating in the fridge because I couldn't figure out how to cut them up into the 1" pieces the recipe called for.

Apparently, marinading helps with dry and tough meat. I learned that today from a recipe off MDA.

[rhianna813]

Here’s a “there’s hope” story I’ll share about cooking with meat. My MIL purchased a local pig and gave part of it to her kids for Yule last year. It showed up as ground sausage, chops and roast like things. 2 weeks ago I was watching a cooking show on PBS and they were making carnitas which is Mexican pulled pork. They mentioned Pork Shoulder Roast and I was like Whoa! I think that is in my freezer. I jumped up to check and behold it was. So I watched the episode and then found the recipe online. It was a quite time intensive recipe that involved marinated, slow roasting and broiling. But it was GOOD!

I am also looking into something called Skirt Steak which seems to be moderating low priced and marinaded, then cooked quickly.

When fall hits again I am going to work on my beef stew. I really want to get it right and not have chewy meat.

Rhianna

[sapphire_chan]

Apparently, I'm just not meant to eat anything but salami or other super ground meats. See, I don't like many forms of melted cheese because of the strings that result as you eat them. And meat, unless it's waaay expensive is apparently fundamentally made up of those strings.

Mind you, the sauce for the butter chicken in a silky sauce was in fact awesome (dh cut the chicken for me). But eeeergh the stringy meat bits, shudder.

[sapphire_chan]

Originally Posted by princesstutu

Can someone remind me what he says about lignans? Why are they bad (if I'm remembering correctly)? I want to add more flax to my diet, I think, but I thought he said something about lignans not being good and flax seeds are high in lignans.

lignans, a type of phytochemical that is thought to prevent the formation of cancerous tumors.

His recommendation for women on flax is to use moderation.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/flax-...e-cancer-risk/

To summarize: flax is bad for men, flax only has ALA, but women have more estrogen and are better at converting ALA to DHA/EPA.

Save the flax for an occasional snack, and eat fish instead.

[FairyRae]

Originally Posted by lil_earthmomma

The big difference between paleo and primal is fat. Primal diet is definitely all about the healthy fats, while paleo still belongs in the realm of low fat.

I just wanted to jump in. Cordain's version of paleo is low fat, but I don't think paleo, in general, is low fat. (And I think Cordain's version is not 'real' paleo.) There are a lot of high-fat paleo folks/groups out there. Caveman forum is a great resource--not nearly as active as MDA, but has many knowledgeable and helpful members. (Pretty hardcore and strict though as well--just a warning! )

I see the major differences between paleo and primal being that folks doing paleo are typically dairy free, and primal allows dairy. Cordain's paleo is not really paleo IMO, although his work has been huge for folks in this realm. But advocating canola oil and saying diet coke is ok is just *not* paleo IMO. (And I don't care what anyone chooses to eat or drink, but seriously, paleolithic folks were NOT popping open cans of soda and pressing canola oil out of rapeseeds!)

[sapphire_chan]

If you aren't doing low-carb and are craving a fizzy soda, I really recommend the Izze sodas. Or taking some fruit juices and adding sparkling water yourself.

[FairyRae]

Originally Posted by Punchy Kaby

Chocolate questions?

What brands are soy free, I'm talking dark chocolate bars, ready to eat.

I'm pretty sure Lindt 85% is.

Please share if you find out more about the bromine. Sheesh!


Newcastlemama--congrats!!

I have gut issues and I've got to get better.

Princesstutu, we've got gut issues over here as well, and I've done TONS of research on gut healing. Over and over and over again, a primal/paleoesque diet has been recommended as a cureall for many of these issues. (GAPS, SCD, healing naturally by bee, etc...) And going gluten, dairy, corn, soy etc free changed my life and ds's. Adding good fats, meats and tf food prep led to lots of healing, and cutting grains down (or out in my case) has helped even more. This is the place to be for healing!! Also be sure to check in the allergies forum--VAST amounts of info there, a lot of it about gut healing.

A couple threads, not totally primal, but focused on gut healing:

Healing the Gut Tribe ~ CHEAT SHEET
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=434071

Where to start? Help 101:
http://www.mothering.com/discussions....php?t=1096747

[princesstutu]

Originally Posted by sapphire_chan

To summarize: flax is bad for men, flax only has ALA, but women have more estrogen and are better at converting ALA to DHA/EPA.

Save the flax for an occasional snack, and eat fish instead.

Ah! Thank you!

Originally Posted by FairyRae

Princesstutu, we've got gut issues over here as well, and I've done TONS of research on gut healing. Over and over and over again, a primal/paleoesque diet has been recommended as a cureall for many of these issues. (GAPS, SCD, healing naturally by bee, etc...) And going gluten, dairy, corn, soy etc free changed my life and ds's. Adding good fats, meats and tf food prep led to lots of healing, and cutting grains down (or out in my case) has helped even more. This is the place to be for healing!! Also be sure to check in the allergies forum--VAST amounts of info there, a lot of it about gut healing.

A couple threads, not totally primal, but focused on gut healing:

Healing the Gut Tribe ~ CHEAT SHEET
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=434071

Where to start? Help 101:
http://www.mothering.com/discussions....php?t=1096747

Thank you! I'm determined to lick this issue. I can see how my diet throughout my life has led to this point and I see how sickly my mother is and I'm determined not to get like that. No diabetes, high blood pressure, or high cholesterol for me. I really just don't have time or patience for that.

[lil_earthmomma]

Originally Posted by FairyRae

I just wanted to jump in. Cordain's version of paleo is low fat, but I don't think paleo, in general, is low fat. (And I think Cordain's version is not 'real' paleo.) There are a lot of high-fat paleo folks/groups out there. Caveman forum is a great resource--not nearly as active as MDA, but has many knowledgeable and helpful members. (Pretty hardcore and strict though as well--just a warning! )

I see the major differences between paleo and primal being that folks doing paleo are typically dairy free, and primal allows dairy. Cordain's paleo is not really paleo IMO, although his work has been huge for folks in this realm. But advocating canola oil and saying diet coke is ok is just *not* paleo IMO. (And I don't care what anyone chooses to eat or drink, but seriously, paleolithic folks were NOT popping open cans of soda and pressing canola oil out of rapeseeds!)

Sorry didn't mean to offend or start anything, I should have prefaced with in my limited research I have found...

[provocativa]

i thought the bromine in chocolate was theobromine, which is one of the calming chemicals in chocolate. sally fallon gripes about it some, but really, you can just have some high iodine kelp powder to balance out the bromine- we're not eating commercially produced breads full of brominating agents!

[FairyRae]

Originally Posted by lil_earthmomma

Sorry didn't mean to offend or start anything, I should have prefaced with in my limited research I have found...

Never never could you offend me LEM! I just get annoyed about Cordain being the spokesperson for paleo when I just don't think a lot of his info is really paleo. Sorry if I sounded angry--I'm passionate about this.

So not offended!

[sapphire_chan]

Originally Posted by FairyRae

Never never could you offend me LEM! I just get annoyed about Cordain being the spokesperson for paleo when I just don't think a lot of his info is really paleo. Sorry if I sounded angry--I'm passionate about this.

So not offended!

Mark Sisson points out in his article about primal/paleo that Cordain et al have come around to a more paleo point of view.

Really though, the version espoused in The Primal Blueprint would be a fabulous jumping off point for a carbo-holic.

, speaking of which, the veggie chips with all the canola are just soooo good and I can't afford a vacuum food dehydrator (and don't have the space). Anyone know of a source of no oil/good oil crunchy veggie chips? I'm not talking about the yucky ones that are basically made of ground up potatoes that were once planted next to vegetables, I mean the sliced up carrots, yams, squash (the squash is the BEST), and taro all dehydrated and crispy with crispy green bean friends.