Nursing Mamas TTC August - Page 2

[CrunchyKatie]

Happy August, mommas!

I don't know if this would be the best place for this, so I thought I'd ask. I'm reading a book right now, The Politics of Breastfeeding: When Breasts Are Bad For Business by Gabrielle Palmer. There is some good stuff in here about breastfeeding and fertility that I thought I'd share if anybody was interested. What do you think?

Hope we see some +'s this month!

[hilary549]

Katie, i for one would like to know what it says about breastfeeding and fertility...
i am soooo hoping i ovulated today! i thought it was two days ago but no, more ewcm and no temp raise. but today, some twinges. today would be day 14...

[konayossie]

Originally Posted by CrunchyKatie

Happy August, mommas!

The Politics of Breastfeeding: When Breasts Are Bad For Business by Gabrielle Palmer.

I just read this! Well, all but the last couple chaps--my interlibrary loan ran out. Pretty interesting stuff, though I don't remember much that would help people TTC? I thought most of the fertility info was just about bfing as a natural birth control? Maybe I missed something skipping the last chaps!

[jessafina]

Add me to the list! Probably under Trying to catch the first egg. DS is a few weeks shy of 1 and I have no period yet. He's a hard core nurser, especially at night. Would night weaning help bring my period back? At the very last it would help bring my sanity back. DS has very little interest in solid food and nurses all night long.
I always wanted my children 18 months apart. We've missed that boat, but I'm hoping to keep them under two years.
We're in the game with no goalie and hoping that we get lucky!

[Daisy420]

Welcome jessafina ! For those of us that bf up to a year and beyond, its all but impossible to space children under 2 yrs apart! Nature's way of making sure we're ready (emotionally and physically,) and most docs will say 3 year spacing is better from a medical standpoint. There are some lucky "exceptions" though lol. TTC during bfing has brought us 2 that are 28 mos apart and 2 that are 23 mos apart; however, I have always had some supply issues and pretty much supplement per my ped starting between 6-9 months.

AFM~9 DPO!!!! Either my O day is wrong again , or my excitement is waranted and I'll have a longer lp or a bfp!!!!!

[CrunchyKatie]

Originally Posted by konayossie

I just read this! Well, all but the last couple chaps--my interlibrary loan ran out. Pretty interesting stuff, though I don't remember much that would help people TTC? I thought most of the fertility info was just about bfing as a natural birth control? Maybe I missed something skipping the last chaps!

I've got this copy on interlibrary loan as well, I've still got one renewal left, though. Hahaha. It's a very interesting book so far...

There is not too much that would help, just a few bits of info I know I was kind of excited to read about. I've always wondered why each woman is so different in terms of fertility return post partum... if it had anything to do with frequency of sucking, duration, time of day, etc. I know everybody's system responds differently to the same level of hormones, but let's see... I will get what I can out of it to share:

"As long as the baby is suckling at least six times a day, amounting to 65 minutes total, and including some night feeding, a woman is unlikely to release a ripe egg from her ovary (ovulate). Most women do not ovulate until after they have resumed menstruation. However, about 10% might do so prior to their first period. This is more likely to happen the longer lactation lasts, so that women who breastfeed for several years are the ones who are most likely to have pre-menstrual ovulation."

That's one quote, I know there was some more stuff that may be relevant, though. I'm not sure where she got those numbers from, but there they are nonetheless! That one is kind of a bummer for me, as my 15 month old is still suckling for at least 100 minutes in 24/hrs and still no ppaf.

[SoCaliMommy]

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jessafina~ Welcome to the group. I put you under waiting to catch first pp egg. hope your stay is short.

Daisy420~ for you.

[hilary549]

Jessafina, definitely nightweaning would help return your period, but just my opinion, maybe give it a couple more months and see if your LO's food interest increases? my 18 month old was similar at 1 yr, not too into food, but now eats a lot more. (though he still nurses, but only a couple times during the night.) it is soo difficult to want to conceive but be prevented by the very charming little person who makes conception so appealing in the first place! but as Daisy420 says, the under 2 years thing is tricky with breastfeeding. oh well you will figure out the right balance for yourself!

[Daisy420]

Well, tested last night with a FRER and boooooo! I will be leaving for the weekend tomorrow morning, and kinda wanted an excuse not to pack any feminine products . I know I'm testing way early ! My temp dropped today, and I'm a lil bummed....implantation dip?? hehehe; always wishfulthinking!

[jennabella]

I'm still waiting to be ready. Right now I haven't yet had a new cycle since the July miscarriage.

Wishing everyone lots of luck this month.

[tropacana]

Well, good news.... I got a BFP!!!! I took a digital and a FRER at 10 dpo. So excited and in shock.. this was my first period (at 21 months) post partum and I conceived.. I still dont believe it! Just for those that are feeling discouraged about their opks, temps, ewcm... I had little to no Ewcm... i had a pretty dark opk... but def not as dark as the line..and that was at day 20...so we just went ahead and tried for the best... and here i am preggo... so keep trying ladies even if all signs dont point to ovulation etc. Good luck to everyone and prayers that this little blessing stays safe.
xoxo hugs and love to all my nursing mamas

ps - I am so glad I didnt wean to get pregnant.. my daughter is still nursing away.. and I plan on letting her lead the way.. through sore nipples and beyond.. lol

[babygrey]

tropacana- CONGRATS! what a great thing. I'm so happy for you. wishing you the best.

[Vegan Princess]

Hooray Tropacana! Happy & healthy nine months to you! :-)

Cindy

[babygrey]

Mamas!! Me too!!
BFP!
I can't believe it. I didn't even think I'd O'd this cycle. But, I got 4 days of +opks and then I passed out tonight when standing up. So I tested.
My FRER is SO DARK.

Anyone who wants to chart stalk me to tell me when they think I O'd would be fantastic.

Love to all of you.
I'm in shock.

In a neat coincidence, this is exactly 2 years from the DAY I got my BFP w/ DD.

[lifeguard]

Congrats Tropacana!

Congratulations Babygrey!!!! I'm SO happy for you. I always check in on this thread to see how you are doing - I will miss you but best wishes with your pregnancy!!

[Vegan Princess]

Babygrey: Sooo happy for you!! Remind me - did you have a short luteal phase at one point?

Cindy

[babygrey]

Thanks so much, mamas.
Lifeguard, that means a lot to me. It is really bittersweet, TBH, to announce a pregnancy in a group of mamas who I've been rooting for for so long. Esp, Lifeguard, when we've been having such a similar experience- it has been really nice to feel like I've gone thru this with someone (with ALL of you, honestly).
Don't think I won't be stalking you

Cindy, gosh, my LPs were SO short. I got AF back in Dec, my non-medicated ovulatory LPs were between 5-7days. I took progesterone last cycle bc of it. I was supposed to take Progesterone this cycle, too, but I didn't think I'd O'd yet... I'm trying not to be nervous... gonna call tomorrow and ask for a progesterone check to see if I need to take it. Do you have a hcp who might be open to giving you progesterone?

another random note that might be encouraging to someone here (or maybe I'm just silly ) It seems that every time one of us nursing mamas gets a bfp, she remarks on her nipples hurting or breastfeeding hurting. I always felt doomed bc I've not had any breast/nipple pain. Perhaps it will come, but, I just wanted to offer that to anyone else out there who might silently be worrying about the same thing.

[peaches' mom]

HUGE congrats to you both Tropacana & Babygrey! I was so excited reading T's news, then almost fell over when, only a couple of posts later came BG's news. I am thrilled for you Babygrey that the stress & uncertainty of the past months has paid off. Wishing you both a fantastic 9 mnths...shall be stalking you for updates

Also, Tropacana, it is good to hear your experience (and retrospective view) on nursing through conception. When you're in the thick of it it can be hard not to secondguess the effect that nursing has on conception. From my experience, my cycles have changed drastically (and really "normalized") just in the last couple months. My DD is 2 and still a very avid nurser.

[peaches' mom]

In other news, AF arrived (just in time for our flight home, lol). Socali, would you please move me back to (impatiently) waiting to O.

I was reading through my TCOYF last night and came across something I hadn't registered before. On pg 315, there is a chart showing O happening several days prior to the thermal shift. It seems that Weschler is saying that EWM trumps temp as a sign. Anyone know more/ have opinions about this? I know there are a lot of us whose EWM precedes the TS.

[jennabella]

Originally Posted by peaches' mom

In other news, AF arrived (just in time for our flight home, lol). Socali, would you please move me back to (impatiently) waiting to O.

I was reading through my TCOYF last night and came across something I hadn't registered before. On pg 315, there is a chart showing O happening several days prior to the thermal shift. It seems that Weschler is saying that EWM trumps temp as a sign. Anyone know more/ have opinions about this? I know there are a lot of us whose EWM precedes the TS.

IIRC Weschler feels that CM and specifically EWCM is the most important sign for conception. I think she frequently states that your best chance of conception each month is the last day of fertile CM/EWCM. Of course you only know it's your last day in hindsight so I'm pretty sure she recommends taking advantage of every day/every other day all throughout fertile CM. But CM cannot pinpoint ovulation, which is where the temps come in and why they are the best sign for pinpointing ovulation in hindsight. I think most people have their EWCM before their thermal shift, because EWCM should precede O and the thermal shift should occur after O. So theoretically there would probably be a at least two days between EWCM and the beginning of the thermal shift. (Day before O - Day after O). Of course there will be lots of variation in charts, just like not everyone ovulates on day 14.

Hope that makes sense.

Babygrey: How do I see your chart?