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post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Maybe I am overthinking all of this, but the situation made me feel rather awkward and I really don't know the best way to respond, so I was wondering what others would say...


So dd is 4.5 (5 in October). We have a playground down the street from us where we go just about everyday. There is one of those rock climbing structures which dd likes to climb up, then jump off (less than 4 feet off the ground, landing covered in wood chips). Lots of kids climb it, the smaller ones with parents' help, the bigger ones--including dd--climb it independently. Dd has been climbing this thing since she was three and is more than capable of doing it.

Anyway, there is one of those general warning signs at the playground that says something to the effect that the playground was designed for children from ages 5 to 12.

So today dd was doing her rock climbing, when a boy (looked about 5-6 years old, just a little bit older to dd) came up to me and asked me how old dd was. I said 4 and a half. He became quite angry and pointed to the sign, informing that she was "not allowed" on this rock, that she is too young.

Strangely enough, about 5 minutes later a girl (also about 5 or 6) came up to me, and said the same thing.

To be honest, my first reaction was to tell the kids to mind their own darn business, but I refrained. So what does one say? I didn't want to be rude to them and I didn't want to send a message that one should break playground rules, but the whole thing rather upset dd. She's been climbing this thing for while now and this playground almost her second home--and some kids who we've never seen there before were telling what she's allowed and not allowed to dd.

I told dd not to worry and that was free to climb the rock, and the kids seemed rather angered by that response. And to them I just sort of mumbled "It's ok, she knows how to climb"--but that response didn't satisfy them--they just kept pointing out the sign to me.

So what should I say to the kids when this happens? What should I say to dd?

I'm not even sure why they were complaining in the first place. I mean, I could see if dd had been there alone and they had just sort of wanted to warn her that the rock is meant for older kids and that she should be careful. But that wasn't the tone at all--they were angry that we were, in their opinion apparently, breaking the rules and they were complaining about it, apparently with the expectation that we would leave.

Their parents were well out of earshot, so I was on my own to respond to them.

So what do you say to them?

Or am I just way overthinking all of this? For some reason the whole thing left me feeling a bit icky.
post #2 of 20
I would probably say that those aren't rules per se but guidelines or recommendations so that parents/guardians can supervise their kids properly (which you were doing).
post #3 of 20
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Originally Posted by grumpybear View Post
I would probably say that those aren't rules per se but guidelines or recommendations so that parents/guardians can supervise their kids properly (which you were doing).
That's what I was thinking. I would just say they are guidelines. DS, 2, always goes on playgrounds for 5-12 year olds. There aren't that many designed for little kids!
post #4 of 20
Thread Starter 
Yes, now that you have pointed out that response out to me, it seems quite appropriate. I have a tendency to stress out and shut down a bit in awkward situations, and that sometimes leaves me unable to see the obvious. Thank you!
post #5 of 20
It's possible their mom didn't let them go on it until they were 5, so they are bothered by seeing someone under 5 on it. I'd say it's a just a guideline too, and also that since you're her mom, you get to decide for her.
post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by EVC View Post
I'm not even sure why they were complaining in the first place.
Kids that age often are focused on age--their own and that of other children-- and the limits that age places upon them. Some kids seem to rigidly adhere to age limits on toys, games, playground equipment, etc., especially if their parent made them wait to use the equipment until they were the recommended age. I like the suggestions from PP's; I might have added something like "Oh, thanks for pointing that out. I'll keep it in mind." That acknowledges their corncern for the "rules" without making you feel like you're caving in to the child's demand.
post #7 of 20
My friend's son is a HUGE rule follower. It doesn't matter what mom or dad says, the rules CLEARLY say (insert rule). It drives him batty when someone doesn't follow a rule. He actually stresses over it.

He refuses to play a game that says on the box "For 10 and up". Because he's not ten yet.

Next time just say "almost five!!" and smile big.
post #8 of 20
What exactly does the sign say? I've seen signs that say under the rules that ONLY children under 12 may play, or ONLY children in a certain age range (mostly at indoor play spaces) But I've also seen signs that say " This playground was designed for ages 5-12" Is this sign clearly a rule, or more a suggestion? If its the first, well, they're right and you are sort of breaking the rules. In which case I'd be inclined to say "almost 5". If its the second, I'd read the sign to them, and explain what it means- "They thought about what 5-12 year olds would like to play on when they built this playground, but that doesn't mean younger kids can't play here too"
post #9 of 20
I'd say, "I'm her mama and I say it's okay."
post #10 of 20
Welcome to the world of 5 and 6 year olds. They are noisy, nosy, busy bodies that want to make sure people follow the rules.....and some of them can read! ......some of them are more by the book types. You are over thinking the situation.

I would say, "Thats ok, I am her mom. I gave her permission." If the child insist, "Go ask your mom, mom's can give permission to do things also."
post #11 of 20
I agree it might be a case of a little lawyer. One of my twins is like that. She just can't stand rule breaking (unless she's doing it of course ) I could see her going up to some kid looking younger and pointing out the rules, and having it really bother her that your 4yo dd was breaking the "rule." I wouldn't worry about it. If I was in earshot I would have told my little reporter that her mother allows it, so it's fine for your dd to play on the rock.
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by Marsupialmom View Post
Welcome to the world of 5 and 6 year olds. They are noisy, nosy, busy bodies that want to make sure people follow the rules.....and some of them can read! ......some of them are more by the book types. You are over thinking the situation.

I would say, "Thats ok, I am her mom. I gave her permission." If the child insist, "Go ask your mom, mom's can give permission to do things also."
Yep, my dd isn't even that much of a rule enforcer, but if there was a sign like that she would probably be upset if her sister (2) tried to climb it.

I can just hear her, "mama, that sign says 5-12!!!!!!"

I think at that age they are categorizing everyone. By height, weight, gender, age, race, etc etc.... Postedrules just give them more categories with which to place people. i think ages posted on equipment is silly for that reason.
post #13 of 20
I think you did fine.

When my oldest was four, we used to play at a school playground during afterschool hours, and sometimes we were there at the same time as the kids in the afterschool program.

And we got some comments from some kids of around 6 or 7, who seemed upset that dd was playing on the part of the playground that they weren't allowed to play on until third grade.

Mind you, there were no signs posted and no adult ever told me dd couldn't play there, though one of the teachers did inform me that they quit letting second graders play on the monkey bars that dd was playing on after some child fell off and broke his arm.

The part of the playground that was designated for kindergartners was totally boring and had hardly any stuff on it. As a matter of fact, some family members had been giving dd an earful about all the fun that she'd be missing since we were homeschooling and she'd miss out on recess -- but when dd realized that this "baby" playground was what she'd be missing out on, she wasn't too upset, LOL.
post #14 of 20
I've had little kids tell me 'he's too little, he can't do X' and I always just shrug and say something like 'oh yeah, well, lets see... sometimes he surprises me too!'. I get dirty looks sometimes, and sometimes looks that are really confused, but they survive either way.
post #15 of 20
Yeah I've always let ds on the playground stuff "designed for 5-12 yo's" Heck I play on it!

I might pull the popular "they playground is for everyone to use, so everyone can use it" or try to explain that "designed for" does not mean others are prohibited. or "Don't worry kid, I'm right here watching, they'll be okay"

I agree that they might not have been allowed to use it younger and are jealous, or going through that "rules are written in stone" thing a lot of kids go through.
post #16 of 20
Thread Starter 
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What exactly does the sign say? I've seen signs that say under the rules that ONLY children under 12 may play, or ONLY children in a certain age range (mostly at indoor play spaces) But I've also seen signs that say " This playground was designed for ages 5-12" Is this sign clearly a rule, or more a suggestion?
To be honest, I never paid much attention to it. It's just our neighborhood playground, yk? Kids of all ages come and play there and it has never been an issue. Actually, come to think of it, there are infant/toddler swings (the kind that are marked for children under 3), so either way, the playground is clearly designed for younger kids as well.

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It's possible their mom didn't let them go on it until they were 5,
This makes sense because they kids obviously hadn't had a lot of practice climbing. After dd had moved on to something else, they started climbing it and actually asked me for help getting up (which I thought was odd after the stink they had raised). So perhaps they were ticked that they hadn't been allowed to play to on it when they were younger (and, to add further insult to injury, that dd is able to easily climb it by herself, whereas they still needed help).
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by akwifeandmomma View Post
I'd say, "I'm her mama and I say it's okay."
This is what I would have said. Kids that age are too little to understand the difference between "rules" and "guidelines". They take everything very literally and would likely argue and argue if you tried to engage them. It's best take an "I'm an adult and her mama so that's it!" approach.
post #18 of 20
I usually explain that it is a guideline and that as a parent, I am there to let my child know if they can play on the equipment or not, and that different families can have different rules, and that is okay.

I have mentioned the age range for a playground once to another parent who had their toddler on equipment designed for 5-12 year-old children. In this case, the parent was getting upset at the 5-12 year old kids for being rowdy and running around on the equipment (um, yeah it is a playground).

I very gently explained that the playground is made for kids to play and that there was another structure for toddlers to climb if she felt like her child would be safer there.

This parent seemed to understand and not be upset, but then my children were aware of the "rules" of the playground, so that's when we had the conversation about different rules for different families.

So, not that I think all toddlers should not go on the bigger structures (I let mine go all the time) but I don't get upset when bigger kids play around my younger child--and will remove my child rather then tell the bigger kids not to play (they were not being mean, just running fast and the other parent thought that they might plow into her young toddler).

I agree that this is just a guideline and it is there to protect the city if a younger child gets hurt on the structure (falls, etc.). Its like a "use at your own risk" type of guideline.
post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by Marsupialmom View Post
Welcome to the world of 5 and 6 year olds. They are noisy, nosy, busy bodies that want to make sure people follow the rules.....and some of them can read! ......some of them are more by the book types. You are over thinking the situation.

I would say, "Thats ok, I am her mom. I gave her permission." If the child insist, "Go ask your mom, mom's can give permission to do things also."
oh yes. I've had little kids bossing me around ever since I had DS, I remember some girl at a cafeteria telling me not to let DS sit in a certain seat because it was wobbly. And I've def noticed since he reached that age himself that 4/5/6 year olds can be super fixated on rules. I would have just old those girls it was okay since you were her mommy and was watching her. Don't take it personally!
post #20 of 20
I would've laughed and said "I'm her mommy, you don't have to worry about her but thank you!"
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