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post #1 of 11
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I gave notice at work yesterday. I probably should have posted this thread LAST week, since yesterday didn't go well!

I'm resigning for a lot of reasons, but primarily because this is what DH and I think our family needs most right now. In Jan, I will have our fourth child, and I'll have a six yo, a 3 yo, a 14 month old, and a newborn. I don't want to work for a while. And when I do, I think I will want to work very part time, as in less than 12 hours a week. That isn't possible at my current job, where all the part time positions are 17 hours a week (I know it doesn't sound like much of a diffference, but it feels like a big difference!)

I expected my boss to be somewhat unhappy (she hates hiring) but I didn't expect her to be really, really upset and stressed. I didn't know that another employee had decided to cut back from two part-time positions to only one, so that means my boss will need to fill two positions at once. But at the same time, that could be a bonus - advertise and interview once, be done with hiring! Right?

I feel very judged by my boss. She is very driven. She took two weeks of mat leave with baby #1, and 10 days with baby #2. She worked multiple part time jobs to work her way up to being director. She has told me that at one point, she was paying more for childcare than she was earning, but that it was worth it to keep on the career track (that wouldn't even be an option for us, I could maybe deal with breaking even but I can't pay *more* than I earn).

In the end, because she was so upset, I offered to push back my last day. And that calmed her down considerably, and she was open to talking about me subbing, volunteering, and doing contract work (all of which I really want to do, to stay somewhat in the career field). I find it a bit ridiculous though, considering I gave 8 weeks notice originally, and now she has up to four months to find a replacement. Four months! Even in a teaching field like ours, where transitions work best if the outgoing teacher trains the new one, eight weeks should be plenty of notice. She once told me she thought six weeks notice perfectly adequate.

I don't know what I'm looking for. Maybe commiseration? Thoughts from people who supervise employees? Thoughts from moms who have a hard time fathoming wanting to stay at home? Ideas to help me get through the next eight weeks or more, and leave on good terms?

Throw it out there!
post #2 of 11
Just remember that you are not your boss. The decisions she made in reguard to her family and her career were good for her. You life is uniquely yours.

FWIW I have stepped out of the carreer field as well, and I never made it as far as you! I will be having my first child in 5 weeks, and until this year didn't think I could have children let alone that I would be having one so soon. I have never known anything more than work, my entire life I was driven to be the very best, make the most money. A work-a-holic if you will. My blessed, miraculous consequence will be here shortly. I have every intention of staying home to be with him and have never felt better about a single decision I have made in my life. I am currently enrolled in school and am working on a certification that will allow me to work at home so that I can feed both desires, to be here for my baby and to be a strong independant career oriented woman.

I wish you the very best of luck! May the next 8 weeks fly by!
post #3 of 11
Oh hon! For what it's worth, I'm pretty confident that her reaction is not so much judging you or your decision but rather a reflection of how she feels about what SHE needs to do next. Like you said, she's worried about hiring another person, etc., and I'm sure she also needs time to get over losing you!

If you really feel that your last day was pushed back too much, just let her know. It sounds like maybe you got caught in her knee-jerk, panic-driven reaction; and with more time to mull it over, she could probably agree that 4 months is excessive. Maybe offer to help with hiring or something and go back to your original 8 weeks?
post #4 of 11
use her stress to your advantage - ask for what you'd want and see if she'll go for it. if not, who cares, you are leaving anyway.

the next 8 weeks will be easy to survive - just knowing that it's got an end date will give you peace when a stressful situation pops up. it always helped me when i've left jobs.



i work with someone who is beyond driven. she's so controlled and focused i think she's going to pop a blood vessel in a meeting one day. she and another coworker (older, gay guy) had a discussion one day recently before a meeting about how horrible children are, based on some interaction the guy had seen at a grocery store.

they were going on and on and i think it finally clicked with one of them that i have a LO. the woman said to me "i am SO glad i don't have your life!" like oh, thank god i dodged a bullet kind of way.

i just shrugged and said "i'm so glad i do have my life." and left it at that. after that both of them seemed uncomfortable, i think b/c of how they were going on and on. apparently i should have defended my life or something. i wonder what they thought i would say.
post #5 of 11
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use her stress to your advantage - ask for what you'd want and see if she'll go for it. if not, who cares, you are leaving anyway.
I disagree with this because teaching is very political. If the OP ever wants to sub, teach again(which she does) she can't leave on a bad note or she will probalby end up blackballed in the area.

Are teachers hard to get in that area? If so I could see it being harder to hire someone. I wouldn't worry too much about the extra time. You'll be done before the baby is born & it's that little bit extra money in the bank. Yes it's longer than you wanted but I'd deal with it.
post #6 of 11
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I disagree with this because teaching is very political. If the OP ever wants to sub, teach again(which she does) she can't leave on a bad note or she will probalby end up blackballed in the area.
all jobs are political. even the fry maker at a McD's has to be politcally savy.

how is asking for what you want leaving on a bad note? you can ask, they say no, you finish out your time and do a great job while still there. or, even better, they accomodate your request and you do a great job within the new parameters.

i'm not suggesting she say "well, now that you're screwed with two people leaving..."

the conversation starts, "i realized the other day when we spoke about my leaving that it caused you alot of stress. i'd like to explore ways that i could help you while working a reduced schedule .... here are my ideas ... "

in this way, you use her stress to your advantage to make her think about offering your opportunities that wouldn't always be available. it never hurts to ask for what you want. i don't like the idea of offering someone the advice that they should meekly accept whatever is offered to them.
post #7 of 11
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She actually offered me a year's sabbatical, which was SO tempting. . .but, there's a few things at work there. One, I am not 100% sure I want to return in a year (thinking about grad school, different career directions, etc) so it seems unfair to ask for that when I am so iffy. Because of the way our school works (we teach ESL to adults) I cannot see how a reduced schedule would work at this particular school. There are options at the community college that are more likely.

And lastly, if she can only offer a one-year contract, that will make the job less attractive to the best qualified teachers. I am extremely attached to my students and I want them to have the best!

TBH, I don't see the deadline as a real problem. She gets unsolicited resumes from qualified teachers on a regular basis. I already know one of my tutors, who is working on a master's in the field, is going to apply. I know another teacher, a former employee at our school, who wants to come back. I don't think filling the position will be a problem. It was worth it to offer, though, so that she could calm down (and hopefully it made me look like a team player, right?)
post #8 of 11
FWIW -- I think it's smart to leave on good terms. I have taken multiple "breaks" from my career but have always managed to jump back in when I needed to, and I think it was because I had a network. Don't burn a bridge if you can avoid it.

That said -- you doubled your notice from 8 weeks to 4 months?!? Wow that's pretty generous... I guess now I would focus on helping her find your replacement so you can get out of there sooner!
post #9 of 11
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how is asking for what you want leaving on a bad note?
Asking for it isn't leaving on a bad note, but taking an attitude of "who cares, you're leaving anyhow" is.

If you take a 1 year sabbatical do you HAVE to go back after that 1 year or can you choose to not go back then?
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
If I took the sabbatical, I would feel ethically obligated to go back after one year. I'm not sure what the legal obligations might be - we're in an at-will state, so I doubt there would be a legal way to make me. But, as I mentioned before, it's not what's best for my students, and I don't think I want to work 17 hours a week a year from now. I think a year from now I want to be teaching one or two classes, at the community college or elsewhere.

Thanks for all the replies!
post #11 of 11
Sounds to me like she was really surprised (probably because of the way you described her, she would never consider leaving work for that long, so it isn't something she is prepared for an employee to want to do), hit with two jobs she has to fill at once (always a PITA no matter how many good candidates you can find) and that you are a great employee that she is sorry to see leaving. I would take her reaction as a compliment honestly though I can see how it must have been hard at the time.
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