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I can't be a human pacifier anymore...what to do?

post #1 of 9
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ETA: Summary (so you really don't have to read this whole thing)--my 6 month old nurses throughout his entire nap and for the first couple hours after going to sleep at night. A) how can I get him to sleep without a boob in his mouth? and B) what's going to happen when I go back to work in September?


Ok so my babe (who is now 6 mos) has ALWAYS had sleep issues. The first 8 weeks, he just wouldn't sleep during the day. Now I think that may have been due to supply issues, since when my supply was fully established at 8 weeks, he started to fall asleep after nursing. But before that, it was lots of walking, rocking, singing, bouncing, and it took a loooong time for him to fall asleep.

At around 2 months, he started nursing for about 45 minutes at a time again, or so I thought. People would ask me if he was asleep, and I'd say no, he's still nursing! He'd be sucking and swallowing, with pauses in between. I could feel let-down, so I thought he must be awake. Well turns out he was sleeping! It took me about a month to figure that out. Probably realized when he would sometimes pop off and keep moving his mouth like he was nursing while he was obviously sleeping.

Anyway so for the last few months, we lie down to nurse for naps, and then he nurses through the whole nap. I try to take my nipple out and either right away or in a few minutes, he's looking for it again, and if he doesn't find it, he'll wake up and cry. It wasn't so bad when his naps were 45 minutes. Now sometimes he wants to nap for up to 2 hours...which is GREAT....except that he'll only do it attached to me! The other big problem in this scenario is that I'm going back to work 3 days a week in September.

At night, I also have to go to bed when he goes to bed. He sleep nurses on and off the first hour and a half or so, then eventually he pops off and just wakes up to nurse maybe every few hours...like normal. This also wasn't a problem when his natural bedtime was 10-11, but now that it's around 7:30...well evenings are always disastrous as I rush around to make dinner and eat and get us to bed. We usually go late, like 8:30, and he's overtired and hard to get down.

I don't know what to do. My biggest concern is what's going to happen when I go back to work. I have Elizabeth Pantley's No Cry Nap Solution, and there's a chapter on getting a baby to sleep without nursing. Basically, it means pulling him off before he falls asleep, and trying this over and over and over until he gets used to falling asleep on his own. Good luck to me!

I've also read and talked to other people who say that he will find a different way to nap when I'm not there. He's going to be with my husband 2 days a week and my mom 1 day a week. My husband has basically only had play-time with him so far, and my mom has taken care of him much more, so I was thinking of having my mom do the first week or so to make the transition more gentle.

I bought a whole bunch of pacifiers last week, hoping that might work. He thinks they are cool toys, doesn't really get the whole paci thing! Too late to introduce paci? Just creating new problem if he does get attached to it?

Maybe he will fall asleep with a bottle? It happened once in the car seat, but he was reeeeeeally tired. I think it takes a whole lot more sucking than that for him to fall asleep.

Ok so that is the first and primary problem, when I go to work. But the secondary of course is that it doesn't really work for me to co-nap and co-sleep WHENEVER he is asleep. I mean, clearly, I have no other children and I have a minimal attachment to housework/cooking, given I've done it this long. But it's getting a little crazy, even for me now. I am fine with nursing him to sleep for naps and at night when I am home, but how do I get him to stay asleep without me there? Anyone BTDT????

Any thoughts and ideas appreciated!

p.s. He used to fall asleep in a sling, and he still does occasionally, but only after maybe 30 minutes of being worn, and he wakes up pretty quickly. I'm figuring that will be the emergency solution for my husband and mom, but don't think it will be more than that.
post #2 of 9
you can;t slip the paci in when he's asleep or almost sleeping?
i have to confess that lately i've been leaving my babe in bed with a bottle. i know it's bad (for their teeth?) but she's always had the paci to get back to sleep and she's been rejecting it so i nurse but when i put her back down she needs something (the paci) in her mouth but she's been fighting it. however, i can just leave her with a bottle and she puts herself to sleep. oh well.
post #3 of 9
I don't have a lot to offer except that you are amazing for finding things to work before now! Hope someone can help. Sleep issues are really hard!
post #4 of 9
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Tzs--I've tried and he's woken up and looked at me like I have 2 heads then started crying. But maybe if I get him more used to the paci then try? Do you mean you put yours to bed with milk in the bottle? What if you try water (so no damage to teeth)?

Flavorful1--thanks
post #5 of 9
Moving to Family Bed since the "nursing to sleep"/"co-sleep or no-sleep" dilemma is a frequent topic there!
post #6 of 9
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Originally Posted by wombatclay View Post
Moving to Family Bed since the "nursing to sleep"/"co-sleep or no-sleep" dilemma is a frequent topic there!
Oh ok, thanks! Now I know where I should be hanging out!
post #7 of 9
I have a similar issue with my 10 month old girl, but it's more that she needs me everytime she wakes up at night to get back to sleep - which is now about every hour! ugggh.
I will suggest that the Pantley Pull off really worked for us. I let her fall asleep (or very close to it) with the nipple in her mouth, then pull her off. She always roots around - the first night I had to put it back in her mouth 17 times. But it quickly went down to 2 or 3 pull offs in about 2 nights. Now, although she uses me as a pacifier at each wake up, she naturally pulls herself off after a minute of so. So try sticking with it, even if it takes forever at first! Good luck!
post #8 of 9
My LO is also 6mo and also only sleeps in the breast (only he let's me pull out once in deep sleep) But that is only with me because my mom and husband are able to get him to nap through all sorts of ways. So it's possibly true that yours will find a way to nap without you.

I also work 2/3 days a week. I used to worry a lot about the quality of time that DH was having with DS because he didn't have the boobs for comfort. They indeed went through some hard times but after all they are father and son and they had to figure something out. Now their bonding really went to a higher level. For two pp to really become friends it takes sharing good times and the bad times too and you only truly gets to know somebody when you see their best and their worst. The need of having DH to care for DS so I could go to work is being actually a great thing for our family. With that said, what really improved their experience was to convince DH to wear DS a lot (we have an ergo). I realized that what I offered to DS that DH didn't (more than the breast itself) was the cuddly snugly times... Then the carrier for DH solved the problem of the constant fussiness when I was away.

Well my mom has her magical mom ways. I once saw that kid falling asleep with her just by sitting on her lap.

They got him to sleep rocking, wearing (All babies sleep when worn!) , feeding a bottle (more rare), or pushing the stroller, or shaking the stroller with a foot while playing the guitar (Oh desperate afternoons)
post #9 of 9
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emiree and dancingflower, that's very encouraging, thanks!

emiree--Alright, so I'll try the Pantley Pull-off method. I guess I should start now, so he's less dependent on that for his sleep by the time I go back in 1 1/2 wks. I'm impressed that it worked so quickly for you!

dancingflower--He did sleep an hour yesterday in a wrap, so you're right about the wearing. I have a MT for my husband--I'm sure he'll use it a lot. And it's definitely his turn to put some time in with the rocking/walking/swaying/bouncing! I have worked so many hours to get this babe to sleep, DH can suffer a little with it now too!
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