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post #21 of 26
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To be honest, this doesn't sound like a psychological issue to me - as in, he's got "issues" - although of course, I could be completely wrong.

To me it sounds like this is a child who has figured out a very effective way of getting exactly what he wants, and whose parents have played right along. And now, after five years, you are paying the price.

As you saw from the instance in which you and your dh put your feet down about him getting in your bed, when you actually set boundaries and expectations and are firm about them, he is quite capable of understanding and adjusting his behavior.

I'm not trying to be harsh here; I can understand how initially it must have seemed easiest and perhaps more "natural" to accomodate your son's inclination never to be away from you. But as you and your dh recognize, enough is enough, and the behavior you describe would be enough to make any parent frustrated and angry.

I think you would be doing your ds a great disservice (not to mention your family as a whole) by allowing him to skip kindergarten this year. Because in the absence of any other changes in your parenting, you'll be in the exact same boat when next September rolls around.

My advice: send him to kindergarten. Whether he is screaming or tantruming or whatever, let him know that he is going. Pick him up and put him in the car. Carry him screaming from the car into the classroom. Kiss him goodbye and leave quickly. I would be very surprised if this boy who you describe as sweet, enthusiastic and gentle does not calm down quickly and begin to display those very qualities.

I'm not doubting that your son's anxiety about being separated from you is real. After all, he's been given no opportunity to gently and naturally become used to smaller separations from his parents over the past five years. But I also think that he will be just fine once you allow him to learn that a short separation from you is ok and even enjoyable. Best of luck.

(Now, if weeks go by and he screams the entire time he's in kindergarten, sure, an evaluation is in order. But I don't think this should be your first step.)
I agree with what you've said. On the issue of him separating from me I have given into him time and time again. We are very firm in other areas, though.

I heard back from the teacher. She said that she was watching my interactions with DS for the two days I was there with him, and her opinion is that my uneasiness about leaving him is the crux of the problem. She said this very gently, also assuring me that it was only her opinion based on what she witnessed over a short period of time. She also sent me a couple articles about the issue, and I have to say that they were dead on correct in describing exactly what has been going on in our family for so long. She suggested that we drop DS off 30 minutes before school starts. She will meet us in the office and give DS lots of love and support when we leave, and will let him feel all of his emotions. I can call throughout the day to see how he is doing. We will do this for a week, and if DS still has difficulties we will consult a behaviorist. The teacher said that in all her years of teaching she has never had to refer a child like DS to a behaviorist. I really trust her and her assessment. I would be much more wary with a new teacher, or one who wasn't so wonderful with children. But I know that DS will be safe with her. I just have to be strong and transmit that confident feeling to him. He is sick today (no not faking it) so I think we will have to make Tuesday the "Big Day."
post #22 of 26
That is a great update! I have to say I was very anxious leaving my son for preschool and he was a mess. I got great advice (here, actually) to kind of emotionally hand over my child to the new caregiver. To let go. To trust that he was in good hands and show HIM that he was in good hands. It made a huge difference!
post #23 of 26
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That is a great update! I have to say I was very anxious leaving my son for preschool and he was a mess. I got great advice (here, actually) to kind of emotionally hand over my child to the new caregiver. To let go. To trust that he was in good hands and show HIM that he was in good hands. It made a huge difference!
Yes, that is what has enabled me to be confident that I am doing the right thing: the argument that your child needs to be able to feel safe and secure in the care of other adults. If I give him the message that no one else is good enough to take care of him, then he will be scared too. Also, he needs to know that he can do this. He can be a big boy like all the other kids in the class who do just fine without mommy and daddy. And he really loves kindergarten. I can't allow him to just miss out on all the wonderful experiences there because of his initial fear of being without me.
post #24 of 26
I work with children who are more anxious than other kids, and the situation you described is very common for these children - especially when they have sensitive, caring parents. The kids themselves are anxious and sensitive... parents are very responsive and as such work hard at limiting the child's distress. As babies and toddlers this is helpful - but as they get older it sends them the message that they can't handle situations. They also don't get the chance to practice handling the anxiety....feeling it rise - sitting through it - and finding themselves okay at the end. It's so important to both validate the anxiety *and* send the message that he can handle those feelings.

A heads-up, though. Once you start setting firmer limits (lovingly, but firmly) and insisting he can do certain things, his anxiety and behavior will temporarily get worse. It's often difficult to figure out where to set the limits and when to back off - you might find a child and family therapist to be especially beneficial in helping you navigate this next step.

Sending good energy your way!

- Karrie
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I work with children who are more anxious than other kids, and the situation you described is very common for these children - especially when they have sensitive, caring parents. The kids themselves are anxious and sensitive... parents are very responsive and as such work hard at limiting the child's distress. As babies and toddlers this is helpful - but as they get older it sends them the message that they can't handle situations. They also don't get the chance to practice handling the anxiety....feeling it rise - sitting through it - and finding themselves okay at the end. It's so important to both validate the anxiety *and* send the message that he can handle those feelings.

A heads-up, though. Once you start setting firmer limits (lovingly, but firmly) and insisting he can do certain things, his anxiety and behavior will temporarily get worse. It's often difficult to figure out where to set the limits and when to back off - you might find a child and family therapist to be especially beneficial in helping you navigate this next step.

Sending good energy your way!

- Karrie
Yes, I think that sounds pretty accurate. DS has been rather anxious and very clingy since birth, and can also be VERY loud and explosive. It gets unnerving! And I always felt like there was not way to FORCE him to do certain things, like play with other kids or sleep in his own room. Very frustrating in a lot of respects. He is doing amazing in school now, though. This morning was the first time he was excited to go by himself. He didn't have a tantrum on the way out the door and didn't cry when DH left him with his teacher. That lady is a goddess in my opinion. DS said the reason why he likes school so much is because he loves his teacher She really worked some magic on him! She knew that DS could do it when I was very doubtful that he could. I have really learned to have much more confidence in my kid. He really will not fall apart if he's pushed to do uncomfortable things. He may even end up enjoying himself!
post #26 of 26
Hi mama,
Haven't read the responses.... I'd do a few things....
1) Don't give up on kindy, esp. because this school sounds soooo awesome.
2) Have you tried a stairstep separation approach? Sit in the classroom one am, talking with him, next day in the classroom but no talking, next day at the door no talking, next day outside the door, no interaction with DS? I'd obviously talk this over with the teacher first, but this might give him the ability to get used to you being away from him without totally stressing him out.
Good luck!
~maddymama
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