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post #1 of 38
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Ex has the weekend with the ds and dd1. We had an early appointment today, and then we had 3 hours to burn before the kids left. We went to the library for 2 hours and then to McD's because the kids wanted to play those games on the McD's computers. My dd went to the bathroom and sent my
dd2 back saying she needed me. I went to her and she had *started*.

I called her dad right away and told him the news. I told him that m dd wanted to stay at home while her brother went to his house. He had a fit, saying that she MUST come to his house, even if she was having her first period. My daughter got so angry at him for assuming that she would have to go that she said that she had questions to ask me. Her dad said that he could find women who could answer those question. He told her to come with him. She actually told him NO! She refused to go. He put his hand on her arm and told her to come again. She gripped the chair and refused to move. He started shouting at her, telling her if he let her stay, she had better come with him next weekend. I told him we weren't exchanging weekends over this because she was saying she didn't want to go. The police came out of their desks and told him if he couldn't stop shouting to take everything outside. He didn't want to go outside, and the repeated it again. Finally he told my daughter that he wanted to talk to her outside. She straight out refused to go out there, more shouting occurred, then he left swearing she had better be with him on Saturday. He did leave without taking her. I offered to let him take her on Tuesday night, bring back Wednesday morning, then Thursday night, come back Friday morning. He refused. He has taken the kids to work with him many times. He just wants me to allow him to pull the shots. Should I offer him another alternate? I truely feel that he was trying to call the shots, and not listening to me, what my schedule is ect.

The very fact that he suggested to my daughter that he could find another woman to help with her period, and that her mother didn't have any rights to helping her daughter with her first period, told me he is just trying to make life difficult. What judge would find this normal? Would anyone, any of you, a judge, attorney or whatever find it normal that dad insists on having daughter over when she has her first period, and when her mother is available to assist and give personal experience?

I'm sick of his behaviour. He threatened me that if my dd is not waiting for him next Saturday, that he will call the police. I'm just sad for my daughter who's father would not her to be with the person who she needs the most at this time. And I'm happy that my daughter decided what she needed and insisted that she would get that. She is a beautiful young lady. She did cry afterwards because she told me that she had never stood up to her dad for anything ever.
post #2 of 38
Wow, the symbology of your DD standing up to her father on the day she enters womanhood. I am glad she stayed strong and had you right there with her to support her.

UAV X is still in the midst of his power and control games of abuse. I'm sorry, but I can't see how a court would not side with your DD since she is the one who refused to go given the circumstances. She is becoming a strong beautiful woman like her mother.
post #3 of 38
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Wow, the symbology of your DD standing up to her father on the day she enters womanhood. I am glad she stayed strong and had you right there with her to support her.

UAV X is still in the midst of his power and control games of abuse. I'm sorry, but I can't see how a court would not side with your DD since she is the one who refused to go given the circumstances. She is becoming a strong beautiful woman like her mother.

I agree. At some point in the near future, the court is going to listen to her all the time in regards to whether or not she wants to see her father. If she is refusing there isn't a lot either of you can do, she has a voice and she is using it and should be allowed to. I think the court would listen to her at this point. Good for her for standing up for herself and good for you for backing her.
post #4 of 38
jyotsna you DID offer him another alternative. he didnt take it. no more.

and i so agree with theia on the symbolism. what a wonderful woman she is starting out to be jyotsna. just like theia said - strong just like her mama.

post #5 of 38
Thread Starter 
Thank you mamas, I wanted to cry for her too, but I wanted her to have her own feelings. It is symbolic. She is an incredibly wonderful young woman.

I also feel that if I have offered him something and since he didn't want to take it, that's it.

Thanks for your support mamas. I have some legal news in the works, but I will wait until it is done before I share it here. This is very good news.
post #6 of 38
I cant believe he thought it would be appropriate for any other woman to talk to his daughter about her period. Seriously, that is a huge *first*, and something that you should have your mother there for, not some woman your father "found" for you to talk to.

I would give him the next weekend, he should take the weeknights that you offered him. Good Job to your DD for standing up to him.
post #7 of 38
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Wow, the symbology of your DD standing up to her father on the day she enters womanhood. I am glad she stayed strong and had you right there with her to support her.
I know I was getting shivers reading it. Good for her. I would tell him that she is old enough to express what she needs and that you are NOT giving him extra time. I would not offer him anything else. Let him go to court. Then you can tell the judge about how he was forcibly bathing his daughter long past appropriate time for that.
post #8 of 38
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At the police precinct, he forced my daughter to say that she would come next weekend, and she promised, because he was going to let her stay.

So she feels if she doesn't go next weekend, that he is going to really hold it against her.

As a side fact, he calls it "MY TIME!", parenting time that he has. He says that if she isn't there, he is "losing time" and they should make it up. The way I see it is, if I am asking for her to be with me for a special occassion (which he would never honor) then I should make it up. If it is because the child is having her period and wants to sttay with me, then I shouldn't. I still offered the time to him. I will email him and offer the week day time and if he doesn't take it, I will tell him to take me to court.
post #9 of 38
I'd just stick to the weekends he is supposed to have them. If he wants a makeup he can do it when it is convenient for you. Good for DD for standing up to him. Your DD deserves your presence at this point in her life, especially if she stated what she wanted and it was her decision. Stand by your DD Mama!
post #10 of 38
Whatever is going on in your life, you must appear to be gaining power. She's mirroring you and is able to assert herself because you are I think celebrations are in order.
post #11 of 38
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Originally Posted by Jyotsna View Post
I will email him and offer the week day time and if he doesn't take it, I will tell him to take me to court.
woohoo you GO GIRL!!!!
post #12 of 38
ya know those first periods can be kind of crazy...7-10 days even
post #13 of 38
No advice but I wanted to stand up and cheer for your dd. What a brave thing to do!!
post #14 of 38
Let him call the police. I don't know about your state, but here, a visitation order alone is not enough for the police to enforce it. They need an additional court order to make the police remove the child and hand child over.
post #15 of 38
Thread Starter 
Complication:

Her father wants to talk to her about her period. Tonight he called and my dd put on the speaker phone. He was asking her about her period, how long it will last, if the flow is small or large, ect. My dd tried to change the subject by asking him what he and my son did this weekend. He changed it back to her period, repeatedly.

How appropriate is it that he wants to talk to her about her period? It's like she wasn't with him when it happened, so he is going to get the info one way or another.

I'm very uncomfortable with it, but then it is up to her to decide if she will answer questions about her period. Advice?
post #16 of 38
Did he talk with DD#1 about hers? To the level he discussed that with DD1, that is what I would expect with DD2.

P.S. Gross; not something I would want to discuss with my DAD!
post #17 of 38
I would NOT send her next weekend, be conveniently away from the house(but still in the town/city). If you let him take her next week he may start trying to do it more often.

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I truely feel that he was trying to call the shots, and not listening to me, what my schedule is ect
Don't look at it as him not listening to you, your schedule but him not listening to his DD. She said no multiple times & he grabbed her arm & tried to make her.

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Her father wants to talk to her about her period. Tonight he called and my dd put on the speaker phone. He was asking her about her period, how long it will last, if the flow is small or large, ect. My dd tried to change the subject by asking him what he and my son did this weekend. He changed it back to her period, repeatedly.

How appropriate is it that he wants to talk to her about her period? It's like she wasn't with him when it happened, so he is going to get the info one way or another.
Even if he was with her when it happened, I agree with the PP on gross & not wanting to talk to my Dad when I got mine. no way, no how would i have done that. I still wouldn't.

Did he know he was on speaker phone? I wonder if he was fishing for information. Perhaps he doesn't believe you that her period was why she didn't want to go, he may have thought you put her up to saying she didn't want to go & used this as an excuse.
post #18 of 38
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I ran that past my husband. He said that was squicky, gross, and completely inappropriate. I was glad to have him validate my feelings on the matter. That is completely over the top awful. I'm so sorry for your daughter.
post #19 of 38
Thread Starter 
Minxie,

Only dd1 has had her period. Dd2 does not go to his house at all.
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Also, my father cared for my brother, sister and I when we were kids and teens. I asked my mom, and he NEVER asked us about our periods (I never recall it) and he never helped us with those things.

It's inappropriate to discuss with your daughter unless you are running to the store for pads. Fathers generally don't behave this way.
post #20 of 38
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Originally Posted by Jyotsna View Post
Complication:

Her father wants to talk to her about her period. Tonight he called and my dd put on the speaker phone. He was asking her about her period, how long it will last, if the flow is small or large, ect. My dd tried to change the subject by asking him what he and my son did this weekend. He changed it back to her period, repeatedly.

How appropriate is it that he wants to talk to her about her period? It's like she wasn't with him when it happened, so he is going to get the info one way or another.

I'm very uncomfortable with it, but then it is up to her to decide if she will answer questions about her period. Advice?
Put this together with the cringe inducing forced joint showering and I am really skeeved! I hope you tell her that she may speak to him about it if she wants to but her private bodily functions are her right to keep private and that she should tell her counselor how she is feeling about everything that has happened thus far. And I would NOT let him take her this weekend.

The dumb part is that at this age your periods can be irregular in timing and flow for the better part of a year. He wants this info because he thinks you will use it for future excuses to keep her home. He wants to be able to keep track of it but he is too UAV UAVUAVUAVUAV! to know that she does not even know the answers to these questions after one period. My dd started this year and hers is still pretty unpredictable to her (mama knows because I feel the emotional shift right before).
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