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post #21 of 25
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Originally Posted by ASusan View Post
Your DH needs to read up on child development. Toddlerhood is peak age for separation anxiety. Your DH fueled it (unintentionally, of course) by being out of town for 2 weeks, even if he wasn't the "attachment parent," he still left the scene and rocked the stable little world of your DS. Of COURSE he's clinging to the one who sticks around. DUH. She might up and leave, too, for all he knows.

Separation anxiety peaks when toddlers are mobile. Evolution was cool that way. The ones who ran back and clung to their caregivers about the time they learned to wander off are the ones who lived to reproduce. Little by little, they learn to wander safely, farther, and for longer periods of time. Then, they get married and start the whole cycle again.

There are a gazillion links about separation anxiety. http://www.allaboutlifechallenges.or...nxiety-faq.htmHere's one -



And another



And it doesn't necessarily go away by 18 or 24 mos -
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and another (from a more general article about childhood fears) -



And the PP are right - the illness contributed to this, as he wasn't feeling well, AND dad left. My son didn't let me go to the bathroom alone (without significant protest) from 14 mos until...last week? (he's almost 3).
Word, word, word.

My son never had a lick of separation anxiety from birth on....walked right into preschool without looking back at 3-3/4 (having never been out of my care for more than a couple hours until I gave birth to his sister when he was 2-1/2), never had a doubt about Kindergarten, and is stoked for first grade starting in 2 weeks. So when my daughter had serious separation anxiety for the first 18 months of her life (with a brief respite from 9-10 months), it was like she had her own, plus all of it that he never had - and it knocked me for a loop - I went from being the woman who could hand DS off to any friend or family member for an hour to the woman who had DD, who nobody but I could hold without blood curdling screams for the first 6 months of her life. . I couldn't even go into the kitchen to put a dish in the sink without her freaking out. It was *draining*. She was perfectly happy as long as she could see me, and *could* get to me if she wanted to....but if she couldn't see me, or if there was something preventing her from getting to me, LOOK OUT. She started coming out of it right around 18 months, then had about 4 months of it around 3 years old, and now at 4 +2 months, seems to be out of it again, one would think for good, but I wouldn't be surprised if it comes back at kindergarten, given her personality. I'm sure people thought I was crazy for keeping ehr with me as much as I did and not "making" her get used to being without me, but I just told them that until she could have a conversation with me about what was going on, this was how I was going to do it. And she's no more clingy or insecure than most 4 year olds; she's happy, energetic, and cannot wait to try new things now.

As long as you don't prevent them from doing things they want to do, you're not stunting anything or making anyone clingy. Forcing a kid who doesn't want to separate to separate is not going to make them independent.


Having said all that, I think it's a separate issue with the "up, up" thing. I see absolutely nothing wrong with you setting limits about carrying him around - that's a toddler/tantrum kind of thing really IMO, not a separation anxiety thing. I see nothing wrong with telling a 17-month-old, 'mommy's arms are tired, we're going to sit together now' and then comforting him through a tantrum if he has one. Being with him because he needs you doesn't mean you have to do exactly what he wants if you're physically or emotionally burnt out. Sometimes all I could muster with DD was sitting next to her zoning out with a book, computer, or TV. I used to tell DD, "I can't carry you right now, but we can hold hands and walk together" and we'd walk together to wherever we were going. Or I'd carry her to whatever room I was going to, and then put her down next to me.
post #22 of 25
I am always amazed at how removed most people are from the baby-development process. Most Americans have no idea what is normal until they have their own kids and start to pay attention. It's also true that "most" people attribute their parenting style to their kids personalities with their first baby. I have known MANY people that said, because I did x, y & z my child is creative, gentle, easy going, a good sleeper, etc. Personality and phase of life plays way more into this than parenting does (not to say that we should parent our the best way we know how).

My DH has also gone in and out of having totally unrealistic expectations of our first child. He expected things like logic and rational at 2-3yo. Inspite of me explaining that all kids are irrational, etc., he really had to live through the experience. An article or two about normal development also help. I agree that you might get him a parenting book or website that explains the normal phases. Perhaps you should present one that is non-ap and show him that it happens with all kids, not just ap ones.

Lastly, you mentioned that you tend to over-extend yourself for the sake of your baby. Do you do the same for your husband? There might be a bit of jealously going on here. I know my DH used to be very jealous of how I doted on our son (when we only had one kid) and expected him to do things for himself. You might try giving your DH a little more personal attention and see how it goes. It works wonders for me.
post #23 of 25
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Originally Posted by MeepyCat View Post

ETA: I have seen kids parented in all kinds of ways behave like this. So I'm fascinated to know what parenting strategy, exactly, your DH thinks will prevent clinginess in young toddlers.
Yes, well, I am SURE that DH's criticism comes from fear. He has seen grown people in his own family taking incredible advantage of each other because they were always allowed to and were spoiled. He sees that DS relates to him differently and is more independent with him, so he assumes that the way I relate to DS has made him clingy with me. We're a work in progress. I love DH and he is willing to learn and open to what I have to say. I think the frustration level is just high right now and everyone is adjusting. You guys rock for all of the reassurance and advice. Deep down I know I am not doing anything wrong. It just gets exhausting! Thanks again!
post #24 of 25
Every toddler is so different. My friend and I both AP our kids. Mine is independent and a rough and tumble kind of kid. She doesnt cry easily. Her child is shy and sensitive, quiet and needs her mama a lot more close.

AP does not cause kids to be clingy. Its their personality. Its who they are.
post #25 of 25
I would say indulge him abit. Obviously you can't hold him ALL DAY LONG but if he is clingy let him be clingy and I can almost guarantee that in a week or so he will be over this phase. He is just trying to feel secure, for his age an illness and daddy being gone may have been a major life event My three kids are in a phase where I swear I make them miserable. They will play happily, eat happily, sleep happily, and self sooth UNLESS they can see, smell or hear me, then are immediately unhappy unless they are being held. this include my three year old who I seriously think has been trying to find a way back into the womb this week she will not let daddy do anything when I am around and wants to be on me all the time. As frustrating as this is I just try to give them as much attention in the way that she wants(right now it is physical closeness) AND try to get out of the house at least once a day for at least an hour so they can do something other than obsess over me and I can GET AWAY FROM THEM!
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